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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 08:02 PM
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Why do bikers have to try and prove there bike against fast cars ??? I came off a round about today and drove the car thru a few gears changing at 6krpm on each change. There was a biker in the outside lane who was happily driving along normally until I boosted mine. It was some big cc bike as you could tell from the size of the back wheel but his performance was really terrible. If I had tried to pass him I could of easily, plus I could see his bike starting to wobble abit as he hit a corner at speed All I could do was laugh as I sat behind my wheel in comfort knowing I wasn't even trying to prove anything
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 08:18 PM
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He can't habe been trying mate bikes are rapid. In corners your car may be faster (if the rider is inexperienced or scared:-) but in any line......different gravy. I had one showing off last week. Fair play, it was quick! Very quick indeed

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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 08:28 PM
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Agreed i ride a VTr1000 and the scoob is no where near as quick in a straight line maybe in the twistys cause i'm **** lol.

Saying that bikes are slow in the twistys is a big mistake i was on the Cat & Fiddle in Derbyshire a few weeks ago and a guy on a new ZX6R overtook me and just left me like i was stood still. I was redlining the scoob whenever i could and had the tyres screeching on the bends and this guy was gone Saw him a bit later coming back the other way

I would say a good rider on a bike will always beat a car be it in a straight line or a twisty road just that most bike riders like me are not that good a rider
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 08:33 PM
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If he was decent and depending on road conditions he would have been away. Even mid range 600cc bikes are super quick, my CBR600RR does 60 in around 3 seconds and 100 in 7. Add a bit of traffic and a bike has a massive advantage as overtaking is a breeze.
Most drivers can take a corner quickly, different story on a bike.
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 08:40 PM
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here we go......
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 08:46 PM
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I know
Its never a fair 'race' as riding the bike takes way more bottle than putting your right foot down.

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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by stevebt
It was some big cc bike as you could tell from the size of the back wheel



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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 09:47 PM
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My car isn't your standard STI Not all bikes are rapid
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 09:52 PM
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A circa 12's 1/4 mile car isn't shy when it comes to (some)bikes.
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by stevebt
My car isn't your standard STI Not all bikes are rapid
Bit like saying not all cars are rapid
All 600cc or above modern sports bikes are fast. If it had a huge back tyre and was one of the new bread of 1000cc sports bike they are mega quick and was probably pissing his self laughing at you trying to go quick Bet he wasn't using more than 6k revs ether.
Or your STI has over 400bhp??

Not all the people that ride big bikes can or do ride them fast.
I have an R6 and am fairly sure in a straight line would beat my car big time.
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 10:03 PM
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Yeah but have u looked at the Spec of Steves car
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 10:07 PM
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I'm sure he has over 500bhp...?
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 10:10 PM
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More like 11's 1/4 then, quick!
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 10:15 PM
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Perhaps he thought you might be playing silly buggers and wanted to play? "a few gears" at 6k... what gears were those? 2nd and 3rd are the likely candidates of course and since that would put you at a fair rate of speed not entirely sure you can blame him.

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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by rbaz
Or your STI has over 400bhp??
Think you should have looked at his profile
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 10:22 PM
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Or not looking at it
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 10:25 PM
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With a competant rider, a race 600+cc race/road bike, GSXR/ZXR Series,not a fazer 600 or cbr 600,will whip the road over any car upto the £35+k spec,obviously verons/ferraris are another matter,but there not your average fast road car you see everyday.

me,on my Gixer 750 will prob have a scoob/evo, about 2 car lengths behind me as im no race rider on the bike, just a bit above adequate,some road riders are very very very very good !
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by fivetide
Perhaps he thought you might be playing silly buggers and wanted to play? "a few gears" at 6k... what gears were those? 2nd and 3rd are the likely candidates of course and since that would put you at a fair rate of speed not entirely sure you can blame him.

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I did 2nd 3rd and 4th
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 10:30 PM
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all of the modern 1000s are 10 second quarter machines.

for instance an 08 fireblade does 0-140mph in 9.69 seconds, how fast does your scoob cover a quarter?
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 10:31 PM
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Straight liner don't come much quicker than this



But it's all down to the rider end of the day
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Anger
Think you should have looked at his profile
Am I looking in the wrong place?? I cant see anthing about his car
If he has over 500bhp as I said whats a different matter.
But then that a bit like modding a bussa like above with a Turbo kit then its seriously quick. Or in standard trim will it still beat a 500bhp impreza??

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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 10:51 PM
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Thats why i posted a reply to my own Question

Its abit over 400bhp
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 11:11 PM
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My car runs a rotated gt35r turbo
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by stevebt
My car runs a rotated gt35r turbo
how much power, presumably its been on the rollers? have you run a quarter mile, if so what time did you post?
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 11:15 PM
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I did't do a great 1/4 mile as it was my 1st attempt and my car had lost some power but methanol solves that It did an 11.9 at SSO

I dont know what lbs etc the car is running on the methanol map but I can find out on friday
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Zen Performance
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by stevebt
I did't do a great 1/4 mile as it was my 1st attempt and my car had lost some power but methanol solves that It did an 11.9 at SSO
don't like to **** on your chips but a standard cbr 600 rr can do 10.9.

now, i'm sure your car is very quick but when you post "If I had tried to pass him I could of easily" then you had better have the bhp to back it up

in the situation you described the bike was more than likely in 3rd gear or even 4th and so you being ready in the sweet spot in second would more than likely give you an big advantage that would make the bike look "relatively" slow.

no one is injured so it's all good fun .

on the road things can be a lot closer than they would ever appear on paper as there are too many variables.
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 11:34 PM
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I think you need to get your car way under a 10s 1/4 mile before you laugh at sports bikes performance some stock bikes can get under 10s now and thats on pump fuel

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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 11:39 PM
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I just did a quick search on bike 1/4 mile times and they don't seem to be coming up to the times yousay when not on paper, Here is some real people posting times of their bikes

Can everyone post some 1/4 times??? - Honda Motorcycles - FireBlades.org

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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by rbaz
I think you need to get your car way under a 10s 1/4 mile before you laugh at sports bikes performance some stock bikes can get under 10s now and thats on pump fuel

I wasn't laughing at the bikes performance !!! I was laughing at him having to try and prove he was faster than me !! I saw him looking at me coming up in his mirrors Why feel the need to be in front of me when he was just driving normally before
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