PMSFL @ Biker's
my source is issue 211 of Fast Bikes (current edition) taken from the Suberbike of the Year shootout.
that first post on the thread you posted is an eight year old bike! new models are every 2 years!!
sod me the thread is from 2003!!!
that first post on the thread you posted is an eight year old bike! new models are every 2 years!!
sod me the thread is from 2003!!!
Last edited by jjones; Jun 11, 2008 at 11:45 PM.
I just did a quick search on bike 1/4 mile times and they don't seem to be coming up to the times yousay when not on paper, Here is some real people posting times of their bikes
1/4 mile times 10.5 - Honda Motorcycles - FireBlades.org
1/4 mile times 10.5 - Honda Motorcycles - FireBlades.org
There ya go m8 plenty to look at there
New bikes
YZF-R6 ('99) 10.68 @ 128.17 bike is almost 10 years old and does a sub 11s.Maybe it was only a 125 with a R1 back tyre in it
so saying "it was some big cc bike as you could tell from the size of the back wheel " is akin to saying "it was a big BHP impreza as it had a big exhaust"
Why do bikers have to try and prove there bike against fast cars ??? I came off a round about today and drove the car thru a few gears changing at 6krpm on each change.
If I had tried to pass him I could of easily, plus I could see his bike starting to wobble abit as he hit a corner at speed
I ride a ZX7R Ninja 750 which has been lightly tuned an also drive my classic Impreza turbo running 324 bhp (proven) My bike is in a different league from all out acceleration to top end speed.
Now I think my car is a fast road car but some people who drive Impreza's really need to take a reality check, any decent rider on any 600cc modern sports bike will annihilate Impreza unless they are running silly power say above 800 bhp. If you sit down and think about it, just work out the power to weight ratio of a bike and you will soon see your car is not even in the same league.
If you really wish to prove your car against a motorcycle in a straight line, then I suggest you contact the organisers of the event below (Portreath Motor-Sprint) and enter yourself.
RAF Portreath Motor Sprint
...oh, and check out what a 2004 ZX10R can run...The newer models make MORE power too.
YouTube - ZX-10R Drag racing
Not had much fun with bikes, but the best was in my 280bhp wagon. 900cc Honda Fireblade? pulls in between lanes at traffic lights, lights go green bike takes off and i follow. Im about 2 lengths behind him in the next lane and floor it, he hears my exhaust, looks over his shoulder, nods, and while still looking at me accellerates, lifts his front wheel and disappears. i just laughed and thought it was so cool
. I knew i didnt have much chance but just abit of fun. One of my mates used to regularly race bikes in his Escort Cossie(420bhp), used to do well an all(big set of bollox).
Lee
. I knew i didnt have much chance but just abit of fun. One of my mates used to regularly race bikes in his Escort Cossie(420bhp), used to do well an all(big set of bollox).Lee
Here's a 2003 road going GSXR 1000 going round cadwell. [Yes it is mph]
YouTube - GSXR1000 Lap of CADWELL PARK
Simple question:
Could you keep up with the bike in the vid whilst sat behind your wheel in comfort?
PMSFL @ bikers indeed
Possible figures for bikes straight out of the box one costing a mere £7000 and the other a massive 8995 otr.
CBR600RR 0-60 3.06s, 0-100 6.32s, 0-140 13.37s.
Standing quarter 10.91 @ 130mph. Standing mile 28.82 @ 160mph.
CBR1000RR 0-60 2.94s, 0-100 5.56s, 0-140 9.55s.
Standing quarter 10.31 @ 145mph. Standing mile 26.51 @ 175mph.
Make your own conclusions.......
CBR600RR 0-60 3.06s, 0-100 6.32s, 0-140 13.37s.
Standing quarter 10.91 @ 130mph. Standing mile 28.82 @ 160mph.
CBR1000RR 0-60 2.94s, 0-100 5.56s, 0-140 9.55s.
Standing quarter 10.31 @ 145mph. Standing mile 26.51 @ 175mph.
Make your own conclusions.......
haha bikes are so fast! Quite a lot of riders on the road will not push in corners though so on a little tight country road you may think its not THAT much faster....on a straight even a poor rider will destroy you!!
I've had loads of bikes and to be honest you would get mullered even by a 400cc dirt bike with someone that knows how to ride it.. i understand that it was just a quick play but these threads about bikes verses cars are just a none starter. you have a 400bhp newage which isnt really that much in a newage i dont even think that brings you up to the 300bhp per ton mark which is an absolute minnimum for a car to be considerd slightly quick in terms of fast impreza's i'd give you a run for your money on a 250 supermotard up snake pass!!
I posted a similar thread ages ago.
Like why do bikers overtake and then stick below the speed limit until a straight comes up or you go to overtake.
And also when they're right up your ****, so yoy wait for them to overtake and they dont, until you decide to overtake the car in front.
It's a battle you're not going to win here mate.
Nice specs by the way
I've kept up with fast bikes before (& overtaken some on the bends) who were without doubt going for it too ... I had to red line the car to keep up though 
Bikers have to be either (a) great drivers (b) nutters to extract maximum attack mode from a fast bike. Most aren't
TX.

Bikers have to be either (a) great drivers (b) nutters to extract maximum attack mode from a fast bike. Most aren't

TX.
I think sometime its just a case of underestimation on the bikers part. Had a play with my m8`s 98 R6, in my old type R running 325bhp. Came off a roundabout and I was right on his tail till around 100, he glanced back and nearly fell off, expecting me to be miles back. Next section of road he completely left me. Chating afterwards he said the first stretch he hadn`t pushed it thinking it would be enough to leave me anyways.
Flat out in the next section I had no chance.
Flat out in the next section I had no chance.
To me it shows that Mr biker was minding his own business but tried to bite when shifted out of his daydream by 6K rpm of Impreza zooming along.
Not everyone can go from relaxed to MotoGP mode in the blink of an eye
. It reads like this bloke tried to keep up, started experiencing some wobbles, then wisely thought better of it.
If you haven't already assessed the road hazards at your intended warp speed, it's best to not tweak the throttle in the first place.
J.
Not everyone can go from relaxed to MotoGP mode in the blink of an eye
. It reads like this bloke tried to keep up, started experiencing some wobbles, then wisely thought better of it.
If you haven't already assessed the road hazards at your intended warp speed, it's best to not tweak the throttle in the first place.
J.
what you guys forget is on a bike it only takes a slight bad reaction to something and it can often reuslt in a ***** off off at 100+, take this morning, me a another biker were swiftly ridin along and a van was waiting to turn into our lane across the road, he edged into our lane as we were approaching then stopped,didnt do anything wrong in a car, it would of been probably ignored, on the bike,dont know about the other biker, but me, shat it,any more than what were doing could of been a major off at that speed because of the reaction.
its alot easier to make a mistake in your car and go, ah, 4 wheel drive i love it !
im always premtping whats round the next bend as being knocked off yrs ago, bird pulled out of a t junction into me on the bike, im alot more aware of the pain when ur head hits the floor at 35mp and ya helmet comes off as well !
the fast bikers are the ones that havent come off,most of the time.
its alot easier to make a mistake in your car and go, ah, 4 wheel drive i love it !
im always premtping whats round the next bend as being knocked off yrs ago, bird pulled out of a t junction into me on the bike, im alot more aware of the pain when ur head hits the floor at 35mp and ya helmet comes off as well !
the fast bikers are the ones that havent come off,most of the time.
This type of post always prompts some replies from 'car only' people who appear to have some kind of axe to grind with bike riders. The posters who also ride seem to have a much more balanced attitude.
Is this because some of you spend thousands modifying your cars but the performance figures for a £7 grand Yamasaki or whatever straight out of the box knock your motors into a cocked hat?
There's no doubt the quality of the rider is far more relevant to the real world performance of a motorcycle than the driver is to a car, and mistakes are potentially far more costly on the bike. I can go out anytime in my car (with only 300BHP and so fairly low on power compared to many on here) wet or dry and slide it around on and off throttle at will, but I'm a long way off smoking the rear on the bike round corners a la Rossi.
25 years riding and 23 driving (bike courier early on to service engineer now, so lots of miles on both) and I do feel reasonably well qualified to say that the significant majority of car drivers AND bike riders are complete pussies on the road, no bottle and no talent. So who the hell really knows what happened with stevebt? Maybe he is a seriously talented four wheel hero and the guy on the bike is one of those pussies, or maybe bikerman was having a half-hearted play.
Either way, in absolute performance terms bikes are way ahead of cars (simple power to weight physics). The car driver has to rely on other factors such as rain or poor road surfaces to swing things in his direction. Above 150mph the aerodynamics (i.e. the rider) start to hinder the bike so outright top speeds are harder to come by, but on here we're mostly talking Subarus not Bugattis so the bikes aren't likely to suffer here either as even 600's will get near on 170mph now.
I like cars and bikes, but when I get on the bike I know the performance would scare the **** out of most car drivers, including many on here.
Kevin
Is this because some of you spend thousands modifying your cars but the performance figures for a £7 grand Yamasaki or whatever straight out of the box knock your motors into a cocked hat?
There's no doubt the quality of the rider is far more relevant to the real world performance of a motorcycle than the driver is to a car, and mistakes are potentially far more costly on the bike. I can go out anytime in my car (with only 300BHP and so fairly low on power compared to many on here) wet or dry and slide it around on and off throttle at will, but I'm a long way off smoking the rear on the bike round corners a la Rossi.
25 years riding and 23 driving (bike courier early on to service engineer now, so lots of miles on both) and I do feel reasonably well qualified to say that the significant majority of car drivers AND bike riders are complete pussies on the road, no bottle and no talent. So who the hell really knows what happened with stevebt? Maybe he is a seriously talented four wheel hero and the guy on the bike is one of those pussies, or maybe bikerman was having a half-hearted play.
Either way, in absolute performance terms bikes are way ahead of cars (simple power to weight physics). The car driver has to rely on other factors such as rain or poor road surfaces to swing things in his direction. Above 150mph the aerodynamics (i.e. the rider) start to hinder the bike so outright top speeds are harder to come by, but on here we're mostly talking Subarus not Bugattis so the bikes aren't likely to suffer here either as even 600's will get near on 170mph now.
I like cars and bikes, but when I get on the bike I know the performance would scare the **** out of most car drivers, including many on here.
Kevin
The point is not that a car is faster than a bike as we all know that bikes are f'ing fast. My point is that a STi (albeit modded) can stick with a fast bike (are any modded?) without too many problems on anything other than a dead straight road or one that's full of traffic 
Fair enough about the small cost of a bike although you pays your money & takes your chances ... I'd never step out on a bike as it's too fecking dangerous!
TX.

Fair enough about the small cost of a bike although you pays your money & takes your chances ... I'd never step out on a bike as it's too fecking dangerous!
TX.
The point is not that a car is faster than a bike as we all know that bikes are f'ing fast. My point is that a STi (albeit modded) can stick with a fast bike (are any modded?) without too many problems on anything other than a dead straight road or one that's full of traffic 
Fair enough about the small cost of a bike although you pays your money & takes your chances ... I'd never step out on a bike as it's too fecking dangerous!
TX.

Fair enough about the small cost of a bike although you pays your money & takes your chances ... I'd never step out on a bike as it's too fecking dangerous!
TX.
i think the man who started the thread has an inferiority complex! i bet you thinnk your car is the fastest thing on earth!
i drive a p1, and ride a zx6r, both not the fastest, but the bike will p*ss all over the car, any car in fact, even concidering cornering speed!
as for you laughing at him, think you'll find he was thinking your compensating for something with your big 600hp
i drive a p1, and ride a zx6r, both not the fastest, but the bike will p*ss all over the car, any car in fact, even concidering cornering speed!
as for you laughing at him, think you'll find he was thinking your compensating for something with your big 600hp
i think the man who started the thread has an inferiority complex! i bet you thinnk your car is the fastest thing on earth!
i drive a p1, and ride a zx6r, both not the fastest, but the bike will p*ss all over the car, any car in fact, even concidering cornering speed!
as for you laughing at him, think you'll find he was thinking your compensating for something with your big 600hp
i drive a p1, and ride a zx6r, both not the fastest, but the bike will p*ss all over the car, any car in fact, even concidering cornering speed!
as for you laughing at him, think you'll find he was thinking your compensating for something with your big 600hp
Another gimp that doesn't read the thread properly !!! I always tell people my car is slow
If you can find one bit I have said where my car is faster than a bike ??? I was only laughing at him having to prove his bike !! But you as do most others twist the thread in your little minds to something else
Next someone will be saying I was racing him and his was a hayabusa
Another gimp that doesn't read the thread properly !!! I always tell people my car is slow
If you can find one bit I have said where my car is faster than a bike ??? I was only laughing at him having to prove his bike !! But you as do most others twist the thread in your little minds to something else
Next someone will be saying I was racing him and his was a hayabusa 
If you can find one bit I have said where my car is faster than a bike ??? I was only laughing at him having to prove his bike !! But you as do most others twist the thread in your little minds to something else
Next someone will be saying I was racing him and his was a hayabusa 

Did you not learn to drive at some point.......
Last edited by No.111; Jun 12, 2008 at 10:23 PM.



