stilover

Yes, but a 370Z is faster than the 350Z.

And in my original post, I did state that the TTRS is faster than the 370Z. Only it wouldn't be quite as fun to drive.

As you clearly can't read properly, I'll say it again........ Stupid boy.

DanPhillips

How come?

Cheers

Dan

LEO-RS

Evening Not quite sure how I missed this thread

As to TTRS performance, 0-100mph in the 8's here... (standard 335bhp car)



They're not just 0-100mph cars, here's another run 0-140mph to show longer legs, slightly slower 60 and 100 figures on this run but look at the 0-140 time..



Now look at an evo magazine 0-140 test for the mighty GTR with 150 more horsies under the bonnet



My car is currently being mapped, should have it back tomorrow with around 410bhp and I suspect 60 will dip down to low 3 and 100 in the 7's

I dont care about the stereotypes, the gay car jibes, any car doing the ton in that time is seriously quick, supercar quick. A 300hp STI wouldn't see which way it went lol, are they not ton in something like 12secs

Won't bore you all with videos of TTRS handling, but there are a few tasty vids of TTRS's and GT3RS/GTR if you dare look for them on YouTube so they're not too bad in this department either

Not getting into another pointless ***** waving debate, for me I like everything about it, I don't think there is another new car sub Ł45k on the market that out performs it on the straights, and I find the car very cheap to run which is a major advantage over it's competitors. As an example, I had a long motorway journey Wednesday evening, CC set at 75mph and the car returned 38.5mpg over 465m. Filled up again with 55l (12g) Tax Is Ł235, insurance is Ł600 (28) servicing Ł250.

It's cheap as chips and out accelerates most cars on the road Argue all you like, mock the car, mock the owners, mock the image but you cant knock its performance I dont think. Plenty evidence out there now, some in this post above. As to highest power TTRS, currently 490bhp but that's in a manual car (wasted) so still very early days yet.

Night folks,

Leo

Maz

iTrader: (34)

So a 'standard' car betters Audi's claimed 0 to 60 time by a whole second?! I smell bullsh!t.

LEO-RS

A second? Nope, you are mistaken.

Have a look at what Audi claim for an S-tronic car again

Manual 0-100km/h = 4.5
S-tronic 0-100km/h = 4.3

Now you don't need me to tell you 0-100 is 62.14mph do you Audi publish Euro figures not Brit figures, 0-60 therefore in 4.1.

However this has been proven to be very conservative, search for car and driver TTRS 3.6 in google

In fact, here you go...

http://caranddriver.com/review.rbml?id=387804

Video too in there. Not enough for you? Couple of German mags have replicated these too that I can link you too. Hell, even the heavier RS3 has done 60 in 3.8. (same engine/gearbox)

Terminator X

iTrader: (7)

Leo! We've been waiting days for you to arrive

TX.

LEO-RS

Haha, here now.

No doubt this will get to 10 pages long, the word hairdresser and gay will be mentioned around a hundred times, the GTR will come into the discussion as the king of acceleration (even though it's 1750kg) The usual people will argue black is white and dismiss everything put in front of them and on page 11, we will be exactly where we are now just with a lot more insults, arguing and perhaps even personal attacks.

All good fun though, me, I just like facts and figures (As you can all probably tell) Ill probably miss all the fun responses tomorrow (picking the car up in the morning and then another long boring drive up the M6 home again) but will pick this up again Sunday, Monday. Will try and get some new figures from the car post tune.

Late now, off to kip.

lozgti1

I love my gay mx5!

Ignoring everything else on the thread,I think the RS TT looks good!

Trout

iTrader: (1)

evo

West Circuit

Audi TTRS - 1.26.3; max speed 107.2

911 GT3RS - 1.21.9; max speed 116.8


Leo - where do you get all this stuff from - doesn't look like supercar performance to me!!!

Cars faster than the TT on the West Circuit - M3, 1MCoupe, Porsche Cayman, GT-R (1.23.6); the list goes on and is very long....

Trout

iTrader: (1)

Any idea what the terminals were - that would give a real sense of the capability of these cars. If a standard car can do a 100 in 8s then a well modified one should have some pretty tasty trap speeds.

It does seem strange with such good performance that 1/4s are only on the 11s.

Trout

iTrader: (1)

TTTS v. 2008 GTR

18 track times only 2 won by Audi, both wet times. GT-R annihilates it everywhere else.

More dreaming by Leo

alloy

Good luck with the pick up today Leo

As for sticking to facts and figures, it's irrelevant comparing data from different tests on different surfaces with different weather and different drivers etc etc

SPIDERWRX

As to TTRS performance, 0-100mph in the 8's here... (standard 335bhp car)

lol not a chance ........

i went past one in my remapped 335i, he was giving it the full beans. Is no way a 8 second car too 100mph (YOU WOULD NEED 450BHP +)

Maz

iTrader: (34)

Either Audi are very conservative with their bhp figure or the laws of physics are being challenged. The reviews of the GTR lead me to believe that Nissan are being conservative with their power figure too. I agree with Spider a sub ten second car would need a little bit more than 335bhp never mind sub nine second! Call me a naysayer and a doubting Thomas but until I have tangible proof that a standard (335bhp) TTRS can post an eight second to the ton I'm unconvinced.

SPIDERWRX

My car is currently being mapped, should have it back tomorrow with around 410bhp and I suspect 60 will dip down to low 3 and 100 in the 7's


http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evoc...udi_tt_rs.html

0-100 11.1 dry

http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/carg..._bmw_335i.html

0-100 12.2 wet

http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/carg...ti_veyron.html

0-100 8.4

LEO-RS

Spider, what part of DSG are you struggling with? Why post manual TTRS times?

Did you read the car and driver report a few posts up, 0-60, 3.6. What part of that do you not understand either?

Where on earth do you think I got the vbox figures from? My car, standard 335bhp. FACT.

The same for you Trout, there are 2 versions of the TTRS, the DSG makes a significant difference. There has only been a couple of track tests with the S tronic car, I'll point you to a recent test where it wipes the floor with a Cayman R and 1M,

No idea what the significance of lap times are anyway, 99.9% of the driving population will never track their cars and I never once claimed it had supercar performance round a track. It does on the road though (I'll say it again, I'm a straight line pilot, I just have no interest in full throttle, full force braking B road blasts, it's dangerous for 1.

I can't believe there are some of you doubting the figures above when they are laid bare in black and white, crazy

What do you want a speedo vid?

DanPhillips

I'd be very interested, so yes please!

Cheers

Dan

LEO-RS

You have a vbox log in front of you showing 8.5, anyone who has ever used a vbox will tell you that they are impossible to manipulate. The file is coded and I can assure you there's no hocus locus black magic stuff. Read the car and driver report, 3.6 claimed, my own logs were actually a little bit slower at 3.67, not sure why you are doubting it when a reputable car magazine has verified the times?

As to 135i, don't be daft, it wouldnt get nowhere near.

420bhp TTRS at last years GTI event (manual car too) posted a 3.15 0-60 and an 11.6 quarter mile. I'm sure Ben will verify that, he posted a few pages back.

Anyway, just got my car back, for sure it will hit the ton now in less than 8. As soon as I've done a run, I'll post the graph and speedo vid just for the doubters.

Facts and figures guys, I've got plenty.

Shall I post the vid of the TTRS all over a GTR on the twisties, how about the 2 GT3RS's holding up a TTRS on the Nurburgring?

The BMW M5 vid? The same M5 that then beats a GTR at Bruntingthorpe.

Guys, there is so much evidence out there, you're just making yourselves look seriously stupid ignoring all this evidence.

banny sti

iTrader: (68)

LEO-RS

Not my car but a vid of a run 0-100, shows 60 in around 3.5 and the ton in just less than 9. Look at the mileage on the clock, less than 1000m barely run in. If you read the posts you will note the driver saying standard.

My vbox logs just go to back this up even further.


http://vagoc.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?t=7468

LEO-RS

Haha well spotted, I got home a little sooner than I thought and couldn't help myself. Arguing black is white like some here are doing is slightly amusing to read and they have me biting. That's what I love about the TTRS though, so under rated it catches everyone by surprise

Trout

iTrader: (1)

I was being misled by your own comments of 'tasty vids' against the RS and the GTR; indeed you once said I would never see which way you went and that your fat heavy Audi was going to run rings around my overpriced slow Pork.

As you said, it is facts anf figures that count - I just wanted to share a few. In my book track times tell you a lot more about a cars overall performance than a simple straight line haul.

LEO-RS

Trout come on that's harsh, your GT3RS would run circles round my TT on track and I've never once said otherwise. However, like anything with a bit of work to the suspension to sort out the notorious Audi understeer and with a decent driver behind the wheel they can go round track quick too.

I'm sure you've already seen the vids so no point in me posting them again.

TTRS will never be a great track car, I'll be the first to hold my hands up to that. This does not concern me though as I will never go near a race track, flying round the nurburgring at the speed of light is great to watch but it's not for me.

The times you posted are all from the manual cars, the DSG is so much better. I'll link you to a recent test with a Cayman R where it posts a better time. Not too bad for a fat Audi

As soon as the funds allow, the next step up for me will be a Porka PDK turbo. Bugger a big fat Datsun

alloy

The amusing thing for me Leo is how you and only you have put the GTR on this pedestal.....I would be flattered if I cared ......how's the car since you picked it up?

Trout

iTrader: (1)

Fair dos - you are right - you only said you would annihilate me in a straight line


PS - You do know that the GT3 RS is faster 30-130 than the 911 Turbo?

LEO-RS

I won't mention it again Alloy, you know my views on the GTR, awesome. It's just a bench mark for lesser performing cars to compare against just like the Veyron is for the bigger power GTRs

As to map, car is good, a lot more aggressive through the gears and similar to how my manual car was. Only difference now, im not losing half a second every gear change. Certainly feels a lot quicker but it's pissing down just now so I can't get the vbox on it to get a comparison just now.

I can see this thread going on and on like the other 2 threads did so I'm out now before it gets any worse

zip106

With a mere ninety break-horse-power available, progress is too leisurely to be called fast, but on the motorway in fifth gear the Audi TT's slow pace really becomes a pain. Uphill runs become power-sappingly mundane, while overtaking National Express coaches can become a long, drawn-out affair. Not my words, Carol. The words of Top Gear magazine.

ŠAlan Partridge.

alloy

What was the pre and post dyno numbers?

Rain....Pish.....that's what you have AWD for lad!

DanPhillips

Very nice, thanks Leo.

Looks like I'll have fun with my boss's when it gets here, pity they are only importing the manual version though :-( but it will be 360Bhp out of the box

Thanks again

Dan

SPIDERWRX

What was the pre and post dyno numbers?
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