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23 March 2016, 03:46 PM
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Disagree.
He might be a poor leader, but they will have who they want...and yes, maybe deserve.
What he is doing could not be done without REAL problems over there....and if they aren't what people think they are, then what are they?
It's a glib answer to say they aren't: WE have no idea. But your average American is worried about stuff, that's for sure.
And if some politicians can play on it, then is that the fault of Trump, or the fault of those who have wrecked the system over the years?
He might be a poor leader, but they will have who they want...and yes, maybe deserve.
What he is doing could not be done without REAL problems over there....and if they aren't what people think they are, then what are they?
It's a glib answer to say they aren't: WE have no idea. But your average American is worried about stuff, that's for sure.
And if some politicians can play on it, then is that the fault of Trump, or the fault of those who have wrecked the system over the years?
What he is doing is simple, exploiting the stupid, for his own gain. There will always be weaknesses in systems that politicians can exploit or use in order help them gain popularity. The system is not 'wrecked' it's just never been there in the first place, like it is in the UK.
There is only one thing that would help everyone and that is to abolish the use of currency or wealth and religion. I don't think that will ever happen though.
23 March 2016, 05:42 PM
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23 March 2016, 06:46 PM
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The ignorance is unreal though (and even the well educated are equally guilty of it) and I mean with regards things like to having any sort of understanding of what is going on in other parts of the world (or their own country!) and why, etc. I think it comes partly from the sheer size of the the USA.
Some of it is through the levels of how religious some people are as well, I believe.
23 March 2016, 07:53 PM
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Already answered that. The problem is ignorance, lack of education and racism, he's playing on that in a big way. Yeah, there are real problems, but he has no answers for how to deal with those. FFS he actually said that they should build a wall between USA and Canada as well, he's a nutjob.
What he is doing is simple, exploiting the stupid, for his own gain. There will always be weaknesses in systems that politicians can exploit or use in order help them gain popularity. The system is not 'wrecked' it's just never been there in the first place, like it is in the UK.
There is only one thing that would help everyone and that is to abolish the use of currency or wealth and religion. I don't think that will ever happen though.
What he is doing is simple, exploiting the stupid, for his own gain. There will always be weaknesses in systems that politicians can exploit or use in order help them gain popularity. The system is not 'wrecked' it's just never been there in the first place, like it is in the UK.
There is only one thing that would help everyone and that is to abolish the use of currency or wealth and religion. I don't think that will ever happen though.
Agreed that ditching religion would be a fine idea though impossible to implement, but what would replace currency?
23 March 2016, 08:58 PM
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yeah, the currency thing is pretty impossible too - really a bit of a Star Trek thing I guess. It would probably also require a lot of AI machines and automation of industry - or people just working for the sake of it. If everyone could have anything they wanted, when they wanted, but all put in work to help the human race as a whole it would be great, not likely though!
23 March 2016, 09:04 PM
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yeah, the currency thing is pretty impossible too - really a bit of a Star Trek thing I guess. It would probably also require a lot of AI machines and automation of industry - or people just working for the sake of it. If everyone could have anything they wanted, when they wanted, but all put in work to help the human race as a whole it would be great, not likely though!
I think that might be classed as an understatement!
23 March 2016, 09:49 PM
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I was speaking with an old American chap last year who said similarly daft things. He said "ISIS better not attack 'murica, as we'll just go and bomb them off the map" as though IS terrorists are all in one place and easy to pick out....moronic. The whole issue with them is they are dotted about, in hidden cells and are not easy to find, otherwise they would already have been defeated. Fair enough, there are plenty of terror suspects who we know about about and have intel on, but there are a whole lot more who we don't know about as they are not all Asian and do not all wear one black glove...
24 March 2016, 01:59 AM
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What good could possibly come out of a Trump presidency?
He has no policies, all he says about issues is 'I'm going to fix that' with zero detail about how exactly. He represents a very dangerous trend in Western politics.
Hopefully this is a moot point, as I don't think he's got a chance against Clinton (if he does get the Republican nomination, which is far from certain).
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24 March 2016, 08:05 AM
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Are you for real?
What good could possibly come out of a Trump presidency?
He has no policies, all he says about issues is 'I'm going to fix that' with zero detail about how exactly. He represents a very dangerous trend in Western politics.
Hopefully this is a moot point, as I don't think he's got a chance against Clinton (if he does get the Republican nomination, which is far from certain).
What good could possibly come out of a Trump presidency?
He has no policies, all he says about issues is 'I'm going to fix that' with zero detail about how exactly. He represents a very dangerous trend in Western politics.
Hopefully this is a moot point, as I don't think he's got a chance against Clinton (if he does get the Republican nomination, which is far from certain).
24 March 2016, 08:57 AM
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yeah, the currency thing is pretty impossible too - really a bit of a Star Trek thing I guess. It would probably also require a lot of AI machines and automation of industry - or people just working for the sake of it. If everyone could have anything they wanted, when they wanted, but all put in work to help the human race as a whole it would be great, not likely though!
24 March 2016, 04:56 PM
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Interesting article, but for my the best bit is the comment https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-explains-why/
The remark about "linguistic kill shots" is right on -- Trump has show an unparalleled ability to ruin other candidates with just a handful of adjectives. That he always delivers them in an off-the-cuff way that suggests they are just obvious observations rather than carefully planned and calculated strategies is part of the madcap brilliance. He's going to do horrible things to Hillary, who has more critical hit locations than a half dozen video game bosses piled into one.
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25 March 2016, 06:21 AM
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Hi,
I get the distinct impression that Trump is one of these instinctive, seat of the pants, gut feeling guys that thinks on the move and uses these instincts in his companies and business life (probably accounts for his rather chequered business history).
This might be sort of OK for his own business - but can you imagine this as POTUS?
I think he had a mad idea to run for president and is now on a runaway train without brakes.
My gut feeling is that he will get elected and then get taken out within the first 6 months.
Cheers
Steve
I get the distinct impression that Trump is one of these instinctive, seat of the pants, gut feeling guys that thinks on the move and uses these instincts in his companies and business life (probably accounts for his rather chequered business history).
This might be sort of OK for his own business - but can you imagine this as POTUS?
I think he had a mad idea to run for president and is now on a runaway train without brakes.
My gut feeling is that he will get elected and then get taken out within the first 6 months.
Cheers
Steve
27 March 2016, 01:07 AM
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Good shortish article on the Trump phenomenon
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-35890784
And yes he can win
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-35890784
And yes he can win
The BBC really are a ******* disgrace. 
Trump really is borne out of the death of the American Dream though, and the article at least essentially acknowledges that. I've read a number of articles regarding the death of the middle classes in the US, and it's pretty eye-opening though. There are many parallels between the situation in the US, and more-so Europe, with the fall of the Roman Empire.
It's like Rome in the 3rd century, costs vastly higher than income, currency has been devalued in an attempt to pay for things like welfare and pensions (they reduced the amount of silver in their coins gradually, this led to inflation) and an influx of people who want to enjoy these benefits. It led to eventual collapse of course, you can only sustain the unsustainable for so long. This all sound familiar?..
This article makes some interesting points, again you can relate this to the US or Europe..
societies that lose the cohesion needed for concerted, collective action collapse, either by failing to meet an external threat or from internal conflicts.
It's not hard to see why Trump is on a roll. If he doesn't win this time, there'll be another Trump who will.
27 March 2016, 02:23 AM
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Hilary Clinton is an evil woman. A woman that chops and changers her policies for bigger votes, the only interest she has is in herself, vile vile woman.
There needs to be a change and Trump could be the change that's needed, a scary thought him being in power? Maybe. One things for sure he can't be as corrupt as the Clinton/bush and Obama administrations. An leader that may actually put the American people's best interests before profits........
Maybe in time our establishment could learn a few things.
It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if trump has a nasty accident just before or just after the polls.
There needs to be a change and Trump could be the change that's needed, a scary thought him being in power? Maybe. One things for sure he can't be as corrupt as the Clinton/bush and Obama administrations. An leader that may actually put the American people's best interests before profits........
Maybe in time our establishment could learn a few things.
It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if trump has a nasty accident just before or just after the polls.
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27 March 2016, 07:56 AM
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But actually he makes some prescient points - which you then acknowledge
Maybe if people had listened back in 1986 .......
This article makes some interesting points, again you can relate this to the US or Europe..
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-0...g-middle-class
It's not hard to see why Trump is on a roll. If he doesn't win this time, there'll be another Trump who will.
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27 March 2016, 12:49 PM
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little Americas buy the notion that they should have back the lifestyle/security they 'deserve' , when china is becoming superpower lol
iv personal experience that Africans now want to go china / aus rather than America - to secure their dream of a way out
iv personal experience that Africans now want to go china / aus rather than America - to secure their dream of a way out
27 March 2016, 01:04 PM
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One thing is that this clown became the talk of the town so very astonishingly quickly! I mean, in every town in the world! Even the children as young as 8-9 in the UK talk and joke about him. I think it's to do with his entertaining name as well. 'Donald Trump' name has a ring to it, and 'trump' word has more than one meaning, as we know. On top of that, the guy chats utter shyte. Very memorable and worth talking about, for these reasons.
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