stewart1397

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dont know if i should go for the ksport or the godspeed 335kit.
im still useing the 2pot setup at the mo and the car is running 330bhp so i need better brakes.
i have read some good and not so good reviwes about the ksport discs and pads,as these kits are about 1000 pound i dont really want to be buying new discs and pads because the ones that come in the ksport kit are not that good.

the godspeed kit only 695 pounds comes with the 4pots and good discs,good pad and the fitting kit.

so at the moment the godspeed looks the better deal, but will the 4pots be much better then the 2pots.
the car is only for road use and i wont be doing any track days

mje_wrx

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my sti 4 pots on front are pretty good, racing fluid, braided hoses and good discs and pads.

my car was running 350ish, before i blew it up lol

Makila

I can tell ya that the godspeed kit is pritty good for the price, I have the discs with the DS2500 pads on the P1, and it certainly works!! Will be a good upgrade from the 2 pots. If you do the hoses at the same time, you'll notice the difference!

BlueBugEye

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I think the £695 kit is for use with the std Subaru 4-Pots which Irrc are not included in that price so you'd need to get a set second hand.

Ian is doing a good deal on the 4 Pot AP's though!

Godspeed Brakes

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Just tp clear up any confusion , there is a kit on our web site which did have reconditioned 4 pot calipers included for £695 , but we struggle to get these calipers now , I am trying to get the people who do our web site to update it and have them taken off.

If you already have the subaru 4 pots our 335mm kit is curently £575 , but if you only have 2 pot calipers the better deal is the 330mm kit with the AP 4 pot calipers with DS2500 pads complete for £895

You will not get a better caliper than an AP one.

Cheers Ian

mr terzo

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i have had both fitted to my car . the godspeed first and then k-sports both are spot on .the only pain in the **** i found with the godspeed conversion was you had to tap the holes out to mount them. but on the other hand once they were fitted they were on the ball. ds2500 pads fitted with this kit

as for the k-sports kit with ds2500 pads cost 1230 posted to me and were a direct fit and look a whole load better , never suffered any fade with either kit .if i had to say which i prefer it would be the k-sport as i think the car stops quicker

Godspeed Brakes

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Its only my 335mm kit with the standard Subaru 4 pot calipers which need the hubs threading ( which is only a 5 min job ) all of my kits with Brembo or AP calipers have the alloy brackets threaded so are straight fits.

I would expect the K sport kit to work slightly better than my 335mm kit as your using a larger caliper and pad , but then with it being twice as much to buy it would be the least I would want as a customer.

A like for like would be my 335mm kit with AP 6 pot calipers and DS2500 pads , this kit is £1250 ,In my opinion these calipers are at the top of the caliper league , they are very well made , properly dust sealed with outer boots that fully cover the pistons , and have a very robust PTFE coating which protects the calipers for many many years , anodised calipers can have problems with the coatings even from acid based wheel cleaners which can strip the anodising off and then corrosion sets in.

Cheers Ian

stewart1397

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thanks for all the posts
i was going for the ksports but i have read that there are no dust seals on them and was worried about it becauce i use the car every day in all weather and i also live in cornwall with the salt air and was worried about corrosion.

the ap 4pot kit sounds good,will this kit fit under a newage wrx rim.

i was also thinking about just upgradeing to subaru 4pots with good discs and pads,but i dont want to fit them if they wont be much better then the 2pots i already have.

thanks stewart

BlueBugEye

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The APs go under std WRX newage 17's it's a bit tight so I'd suggest putting a piece of card over the calipers when refitting the wheels to avoid knocks/scratches.

subarusue

Ian you couldnt post a pic of the actual caliper used in your six pot conversion , please . regards sue

beef-on-the-bone

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i live in cornwall and have had k- sports on my car for 18 months, they look fine and perform well, no complaints here

DaveBeck

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Sorry to hi jack, ian will you still be getting the discs and pads in future?

bren@apex

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We have a boatload of KSport kits leaving the factory soon, some REAL bargains to be had, 330mm 8 pot kits £699, 356mm 8 pot kits £849!

Godspeed Brakes

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Hi Sue

Here's a picture of the kit with red and black calipers , I use the 7040 calipers which have the better dust seals and the cheaper pads



Cheers Ian

Godspeed Brakes

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Hi

I make the discs so the supply of these are unlimited , also no problem getting the pads in various makes and compounds

Cheers Ian

Potiriadis

Ian,

I have an 08 STi with 4 pots up front. With the PPP fitted, I have found myslef having to really lean on the brakes to shed speed that my 02 STi seemed to shrug off. I always joked with the brembo setup on the bug eye could could feel the road buckling in front of you as you leaned on the anchors. I do not get that same feel from the new brakes.

So to my question. What I would like to do is upgrade my STi to an AP setup, would I notice a difference with 4 pots? (I only drive on roads), and then switch the STi 4 pots onto my 07 WRX. Is this possible? Oddly I have never felt any inadequacy with the WRX brakes, must be that the car is lighter.

Advice and reality check greatly received.

DaveBeck

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beef-on-the-bone

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any 6 pot rears cheap??

Fangoria

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Ian
Can you comment on the quality of your discs versus AP
I have big issue with AP in that the Discs get hot very quickly and warp very, very easily.. on a set of 355mm discs I warped them on a wet Track day session - so just shows how easy it is to warp them (maybe the brake compound Pagid's wasnt helping)
Of course you can have them reground but its a pain
What would make your brake discs different to AP? and how does AP get away with selling inferior quality crap?

bren@apex

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What size and what are the vehical specifics?

Who, me or Ian? KSport use the same material as AP Racing. What pads are you using? What runout readings are you getting when you are installing the rotors?

Aztec Performance Ltd

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Performance Friction discs are better than the APs which can be known to have some issues.

Having seen Ian's discs they would be a backward step from your APs imho.

The APs on my own car have always been fine but when they need replacing they will be replaced with PF ones.

What compound Pagids are you using?

beef-on-the-bone

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96 sti2 300 or 330 rear???

bren@apex

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None in stock but we can do 304mm 6 pot rears for £699 or 330mm 6 pot rears for £749. Prices include vat.

8-10 week lead time at that price.

Fangoria

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Was using Pagid Black
seemed to destroy the disc after a few hours....
I had similar problems on smaller discs with AP 4 pots with different brake material though mus admit Pagid or something like DS3000 tended to eat the discs and at £500 a throw very annoying - sure you can have them reground but they go again immediately once this is done

I think I'm going to sell the AP's and get Stoptech's

bren@apex

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We dont sell DS3000s anymore, theyre too prone to leaving pad deposits leading to vibration.

We advise Performance Friction 0-1s for serious use. Combined with KSport brakes they provide awesome fade free, trouble free stopping power, as proven over and over again with multiple top Time Attack cars

Neil XR

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hi Bren

whats the lead time on the 330mm 8 pot kits for a my03 wrx, should fit ok with sti wheels

bren@apex

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Due in around 4 weeks.

Henrik

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My 2p's worth:

I used to run the 335mm standard caliper godspeed set-up and now run k-sports (330)

The Godspeed set up was spot on for the money (paid 625 at the time, i think).

I changed to k-sports because there was a good group buy on at the time (750'ish for ksports + ds2500), and the fact that I managed to sell my godspeed conversion including the 4 pots to a friend for 450.

The differences I have noticed are:
* Slightly better brake feel, although that might have more to do with me now running braided hoses than the brakes themselves
* Occasionally, my front end would feel unsettled over bumps with the god speed kit. I think this was due to the extra weight of the kit (it weighs a lot, due to having such a massive disc and also the subaru caliper isn't lightweight). My standard suspension just wasn't stiff enough to handle it properly. The k-sports on the other hand are a lot lighter, so this problem is now gone.
* The k-sports look a lot more "bling"

Having said the above, if I would have had to pay full current retail price for the k-sports, I'd still go for the godspeed kit, as it's plenty good enough, IMO.