1uke

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Sorry i know this is another tyre thread but i think there 1 of the most important things on the car and dont wanna get this wrong, plus dont mind spending abit to get the right tyres!!
I was going to go for Vredestein ultrac sessanta after reading many threads on here but have now been told by some tyre places I've phoned that they are a top end budget tyre and I could do alot better
I have Goodyear Eagle F1s on at the moment, and used them before but to be honest have never felt the grip was to good and they certainly liked to let go hard with no warning in the wet.

Mark'sWRX

Hopefully, someone on here has a copy of the evo tyre test where the Vredsteins came 2nd. I've also read very good things about them on here, except that they wear out after 10-15k.

The winners, I think, of the test were the new Goodyear Asymmetrics, so could be worth seeing if they are available in your size.

I also remain unconvinced by F1 GSD3s, but I'm still experimenting with tyre pressures. GY recommend about 5psi higher, but they feel very twitchy, so I'm gradually dropping 1psi at a time until they feel right.

1uke

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like the look of the Goodyear Asymmetrics but cant seem to find anywhere that does the size I need or even that tyre lol, dont suppose any1 knows if they do it in 215/45/17?

joz8968

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I thought the evo winners WERE the Eagle F1's?! Or is there an asymmetric version of the F1, rather than F1 GSD3?!

1uke

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found this on a website:

EVO Magazine 2007 Tyre Test

The results:
1) Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric
2) Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta
3) Continental Contisport Contact 3
4) Bridgestone Potenza RE050-A
5) Michelin Pilot Sport PS2
6) Pirelli PZero Nero
7) Kumho Ecsta STP KU31
8) Dunlop Sport Maxx
9) Yokohama S.Drive

joz8968

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You're right - just looked at evo and the F1 Asymmetrics (not GDS3) were the winners! ... Sorry for butting in like I did

joz8968

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AARGH! Sorry 1uke, you beat me to it (always happens to me)

1uke

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Lol

spleenmachine

I had a similar post an people recommended the vredestein's the someone who had tried them said they didnt last long.

I went for yokohama parada 2's and ive yet to scrub them in but I think they great even in the wet, although they got mixed reactions

jayb1970

Crikey I have got Toyo proxes T1-R's they don't even appear on that list

I have to say they have always seen me right even in the wet.

scooby51

I have GDS3's on mine and I cant get them to budge in the wet or dry.

Round here its all twisty country lanes and 60 zones so they get good workout.
Just my personal experiences - I'm happy with mine
(plus they got me home when flat - 18 miles)

dunx

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10 - 15 K

LOL

DunxC (8.5K is wow !)

skoobidude

Arn't Toyos a fashion tyre like Yoko A510/ A520s were in the '90s?


Nick

Mark'sWRX

I'd say 10-15k for a set of tyres is below average. If you are still using Toyos then I suppose that sort of mileage would please you .

I'd got 19k out of my original Bridgestones and only replaced them when I had a puncture (still had over 5k left). Waiting to see how the GSD3s last.

joz8968

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Don't knock those Yokos. I had them on my R5 turbo back in the early 90's and thought they had terrific dry grip!... I may have been deluded though ...

silent running

Yokes were the thing back in the 90's cos they were about the only softish road tyre you could get. Everyone used to say Yokes lasted half as long but had twice as much grip - handy when everyone was driving FWD hot hatches. Toyos were what you got thrown on for free with a new set of rims - the cheapest way of putting 205/40/17s on, at a time when 17" rubber was pricey.

joz8968

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Blimey. You've superbly described my memories of 90's performance motoring and that Yoko vs others/FWD comparison! Do you remember how expensive 17" alloys and tyres were back then? Oh the nostalgia!

EDIT: ...And how HUUUGE 17" alloys were regarded?! (Remember the weird 195/55/13 tyre size for the R5?). Oh the memories...

53

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Clearly they no Fukc all about tyres ! Just cause something is expensive doesn't make it good, likewise something well priced doesn't make it budget.

Do it you won't look back I promise, they are the best tyre I have tried to date.

1uke

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Phoning around on monday to see if they do a Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric in the tyre size I need, if not I will be looking towards the Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta which I've found for around £50 each

joz8968

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1uke, in what size are they £50? Is it poss to elude where you can get them from at that price? Cheers, John.

1uke

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erm im afraid its trade price my gf's dad runs a garage size 215/45/17

joz8968

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No problem mate. When I tried to look for the Ultracs, I couldn't see them in that size?!? Do you know any other places that do them in that size?

1uke

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yeh I had same problem when I browsed internet, I was surprised when he come back with that price/size for the ultrac Sessanta. I dont think I will have any luck finding that size for the Asymmetrics. So will try get confirmation on size of the sessanta's early in the week and post here, and maybe even a name of where to get them from.

joz8968

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That's very helpful. Thanks a lot

jayb1970

Yoko maybe but I disagree strongly about the Toyo's there are far from being a fashion tyre.
Whilst I realise that price isn't everything they are not £100+ for no reason. As I said they have done me no harm in the years i have been using them, and trust me they have had a work out and never failed!!( only due to my driving ).
The wheels on my car were supplied by Subaru and that was their tyre of choice, I'm sure they look at performance not fashion when choosing tyres.

joz8968

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You do mean R888s, yes?

jayb1970

No, have'nt gone that radical, maybe next time. My tyres were new 2 months ago when the previous owner put some new wheels on so don't see the sense in changing them just yet. T1-R's at the mo.

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Lucky Barsteward

Shark Man

Fasionable to anyone who browses 'net forums.

Probably the best example of viral marketing I've seen for automotive products (barring dump valves, DOT5.1 fluid and braided hoses )

jammychap

I had the a509's on my old astra gte16v and they went a long way to taming a scary car lol also has the vredenstines on my last car a golt gti turbo and thought they were very good.