Markus

Ok, the old rubber is getting a bit thin, so it's time to think about getting a set of new rubber.

Thinking of going with Toyo Proxes T1-S, meant to be pretty good. What do you lot reckon?

Where's the best (cheapest) place in Kent to get a set? SETYRES in Tun Wells is 'official' dealer so I guess I should try them first (plus they are five mins up the road from me )

Also (this the reason for the edit), is there anything special that I should get done when the tyres are replaced, eg; does it have to ballanced in any special way as it's 4wd??? Never had a 4wd before, and never had to change tyres on a scooby before.



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GaryC

Bridgestone S02s are better, but will cost c£100 more for 4

MatthewR

I have Toyo Proxes T1-S on 16s and have been extremely happy with them... they completely transformed the feel of the car for the better... I would recommend them to anyone.


Matthew

Stef

Whether SO-2's are better or not is a matter of taste and driving style.
I've never used them so can't comment.
I have TOYO's on at the moment and they're ace!

Stef.

IWatkins

Markus

I think the general consensus is that the S02s have better dry grip but the T1-S is more progressive in the breakaway.

As for wet grip, I don't know.

What I do know is that the T1-S has very good wet grip and resistance to aquaplanning is excellent.

Others with direct experience of both will no doubt post to let you know.

Cheers

Ian

GaryC

I've got SO2s (17") and have only driven on Toyos in the wet, and the SO2s gave far better wet grip. Breakaway was progressive on the toyos, but I've never had the SO2s brakeaway (except understeer which didn't seem any different) so I don't know how progressive or not they would be??

Toyos seem to go 'off' on track quicker. though

Ian Sutton

I was told by the fella up at Tyres Northampton last month that the Toyos in 16 inch are better than the SO2's, but SO2's are better in 17 inch.

If this makes it any clearer.

..Ian

Markus

Cheers chaps.

Seems to me that if Stef uses Toyo's then they must be pretty good

As i've got 16inchers then your comment, ian, about them being better on 16's is valid.

Toyo's it is then.

chalk up another sucess story due to scoobynet.

MorayMackenzie

I really like the toyo, but I had a chance at a good price on the S02, so I am currently running on those (16") with a part worn set of toyos waiting for me when the 'stones wear out. I have found that the bridgestone does have more ultimate grip, and it is fairly progressive (not as good as toyo though) in breakaway. The tyre really demands a change in driving style... the S02 seems to prefer a more accurate approach whereas the toyos encourage a bit more, hum, lets say "flair" .

To be honest, I would say that the Toyo is more fun (and arguably safer) and the bridgestone is faster (but still very safe)... I am waiting to see how long the S02's last before deciding on my future favorite.

Moray

JAMES BUSHELL

Hi Markus

Toyo's are great.................! Great dry weather grip reasonable wet weather...! Still good for the price though.

James

Otis

Hello Markus,

I have found that there is more body roll now that I have moved from the original RE010's to the Toyo's. To be honest I miss the stiffer side wall and have increased tyre pressures to compensate. However better turn in on the Toyo's without a doubt.

One thing my fitter asked me (Peter Winn Tyres at Pocklington nr York £338.00 all in ask for Stewart if any locals are interested) was if I would accept stick on weights on the outside of the rim and clip- on to the inside. This allows them to space the weights better and provide a better balance in the long run.


Otis.

Colin Berry

Best thing is to speak to your mate who is going to Belguim next weekend to get some for you. He got his in Holland fitted/balanced for 320 squid.

DaveW

Never mind going to Holand. I've just been quoted £280 for 4 16" fitted and balanced looks like I'll be getting Toyos at the weekend.

DaveW

Stef

Markus.

I'm not sure that in itself is a good enough reason to try the TOYO's, especially as I've never used anything else!

Stef.

Markus

Well, if the Toyo's can cope with your 'enthusiastic' driving style then they should be more than adequate for my pathetic attempts at so called 'driving'

GaryC

At £280 for 4 you'd be stupid not to! I still say SO2s are better, but not 'almost twice the price' better!!

Iain P

Just swapped to Toyos. Can anyone recommend tyre pressures for 17" tyres with Prodrive settings? I've started with 30 psi all round but not entirely happy compared to the P-zeros running 30/31 all round.

Cheers

GaryC

I run 36 front 34 rear (on 17" S02s) best balance between ride and handling. Have gone as high as 40, but whilst wet grip and turn in were improved, tramlining became an issue and the car became more 'jittery'.

Iain P

34 front and 32 rear seems to work quite nicely. Might treat myself to the Powerstation setup. Anyone had this done on a 99MY with 17" wheels? Can anyone give a full run down of the changes and how the car is transformed? I really want to reduce understeer when powering out of corners and improve the turn in on high speed tight bends - i.e 3/4 th gear.

Stef

Iain.
Just get down there and get it done.
You won't regret it!

Stef.

Iain P

Is a trade off rapid tyre wear?

Stef

I don't yet know, but I doubt it's any more than having the 'Prodrive' goemetry done. I believe it's the geometry settings that affect tyre-wear more than anything else.

Stef.