Classic uk turbo rear brake pipe replacement
08 December 2015, 11:55 PM
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Classic uk turbo rear brake pipe replacement
Hi All,
1999 uk classic turbo v5 first of ej205 engines.
Mot time again & both rear brake pipes need replacing (received as advisory last year).
I am planning to do the work myself but having never replaced brake pipes before a little bit of advice if you please. I am up to speed with the procedure being a long term diy mechanic but need help with tools & type of pipe.
I am going to purchase a hand held flare tool that can be used quite easily on the car. After doing some research I am settled on the tool I’m going to buy (see links below). This manufacturer supplies the tool in both versions but I obviously need to know what version I need to buy to flare the pipes on my Scooby. Refer to information below which i foundon the internet.
Version 1 is the sae 3/16'' version used mostly on pre-95 cars.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181871055808?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageNa me=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Version 2: after 95 car manufacturers used the din 4.75bubble flare.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171983032775?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageNa me=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
They are both for 3/16 brake pipe (4.75 being the metric equivalent in millimetres of 3/16“) but the flare shapes are different.
MY car being MY 99 & going on this info you would go with version 2 of the tool but when I called up the supplier today & asked the question he couldn’t give me an definitive answer but informed me that the version 1 was a much more popular seller on a 10 to 1 basis which now has me thinking
.Don’t want to purchase the wrong version of this tool.
I will be replacing both rear brake pipes from under the passenger seat on the OS of the car along their full length to where they tie in with the unions at the brake hoses on each side. Obviously when I tie into the union at the brake hoses I need to match the flare on the new brake pipes to whatever flare type is on the unions on the car (standard OEM hoses are still installed).Could someone please shine some light on what version I need?
Question 2: I plan to re-route the pipes so I don’t need to mess about following the original route over the top of the petrol tank in turn having to mess about dropping tank, diff etc. Is a mot station ok with you running complete new lines on a different route to the original route?
Question 3: Again for the purpose of passing an mot do the new lines need to be secured with clamping devices or can you save a lot of hassle & just use tie wraps?
Question 4: I see brake pipes come with different mixtures in their make-up. I see 25 m rolls of copper brake line for about £10 a roll – is this pure copper? I also see 25 m rolls of copper – nickel – kunifer mixture brake pipe for about £18 for a 25 m roll.
Here is something I read on the internet: Most cars in the uk use brake lines that are not just copper, they are copper-nickel alloy DOT approved brake line. European cars use them to avoid rusting as badly as the cheap pvc coated stuff. What type do I go for & more importantly what type passes a uk mot?
Thanks in advance, any advice would be much appreciated.
Cheers Paul.
1999 uk classic turbo v5 first of ej205 engines.
Mot time again & both rear brake pipes need replacing (received as advisory last year).
I am planning to do the work myself but having never replaced brake pipes before a little bit of advice if you please. I am up to speed with the procedure being a long term diy mechanic but need help with tools & type of pipe.
I am going to purchase a hand held flare tool that can be used quite easily on the car. After doing some research I am settled on the tool I’m going to buy (see links below). This manufacturer supplies the tool in both versions but I obviously need to know what version I need to buy to flare the pipes on my Scooby. Refer to information below which i foundon the internet.
Version 1 is the sae 3/16'' version used mostly on pre-95 cars.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181871055808?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageNa me=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Version 2: after 95 car manufacturers used the din 4.75bubble flare.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171983032775?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageNa me=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
They are both for 3/16 brake pipe (4.75 being the metric equivalent in millimetres of 3/16“) but the flare shapes are different.
MY car being MY 99 & going on this info you would go with version 2 of the tool but when I called up the supplier today & asked the question he couldn’t give me an definitive answer but informed me that the version 1 was a much more popular seller on a 10 to 1 basis which now has me thinking
.Don’t want to purchase the wrong version of this tool.I will be replacing both rear brake pipes from under the passenger seat on the OS of the car along their full length to where they tie in with the unions at the brake hoses on each side. Obviously when I tie into the union at the brake hoses I need to match the flare on the new brake pipes to whatever flare type is on the unions on the car (standard OEM hoses are still installed).Could someone please shine some light on what version I need?
Question 2: I plan to re-route the pipes so I don’t need to mess about following the original route over the top of the petrol tank in turn having to mess about dropping tank, diff etc. Is a mot station ok with you running complete new lines on a different route to the original route?
Question 3: Again for the purpose of passing an mot do the new lines need to be secured with clamping devices or can you save a lot of hassle & just use tie wraps?
Question 4: I see brake pipes come with different mixtures in their make-up. I see 25 m rolls of copper brake line for about £10 a roll – is this pure copper? I also see 25 m rolls of copper – nickel – kunifer mixture brake pipe for about £18 for a 25 m roll.
Here is something I read on the internet: Most cars in the uk use brake lines that are not just copper, they are copper-nickel alloy DOT approved brake line. European cars use them to avoid rusting as badly as the cheap pvc coated stuff. What type do I go for & more importantly what type passes a uk mot?
Thanks in advance, any advice would be much appreciated.
Cheers Paul.
