Well, missed a scoob more than ever this morning!

Lets just say 350bhp, stupidly wide rear tyres and rear wheel drive do not mix!!! ha.

Took me an hour to do 1/2 a mile, up hill sideways with full lock in 3rd gear! caused a nice traffic jam though! not good when front wheel drive astra's where over taking me! ha ha.

 

HaHa!!! Nice one mate, sounds like ya had a lovely time on ya way to work this morning An its only to get worse too!!!!!!!!!!

 

could have some fun tho drifting with the rear wheel drive!!!!

 

True m8, however only thing i was drifting into this morning was the bloody kerb! only time i got some traction! ha

 

hope you have wide tyres to protect the wheels then

 

lmao... its only drifting if you mean to do it otherwise its just skidding!!!

my bum pinched a bit as i tried to turn the corner, and i carried on towards a sign post!!! ooops!!! hahaha!

 

Had no probs this morning, took the car instead of the van.

Had a bit of sideways fun again would be rude not to

But generally not even a hint of unintentional sliding at all

 

I knew exactly what this was going to say just from the title!

Have you found the DTC button? There's a lot of confusion with the BMW Traction control mate... Loads of beemer drivers think that the default traction control will help when in fact it does the opposite...

If effectively kills all power when traction is lost...as it operates with other features such as dynamic stability control and independent wheel braking... so you have two problems.. one, the wheel spin and the second, as soon as they do spin the engine is cut... I had a play in a car park near me with a real icy surface and I simply couldn't move effectively from what was a flat surface...

By pressing the DTC button, you turn the dynamic traction control ON. This allows 50% ish more wheel slip and allows you to operate as a standard traction controlled car (it allows restricts some aspects of the DSC programme). I pressed this and Bingo.. got going easily because I had some control. Just enough to get going and remain safe because with the full system on, it's really hard to induce a spin... DTC makes spinning easier because you have control before the system takes over (i.e the DSC safety features are restricted and the yaw sensors etc are limited in response)..

By pressing and holding the DTC button for three seconds ish you turn it all off... allowing you max revs and max wheel spin...

From BMW tech..
Dynamic Traction Control (DTC).

Dynamic Traction Control (DTC) allows for sports-style driving dynamics even when DSC is controlling stability and when wheel traction is higher.

Dynamic Traction Control (DTC) is a sub-function of the Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) system that can be turned on and off. DTC has two major uses: to regulate traction and to enable sports-style driving while providing active stability control.
If the front wheels are stuck in snow and cannot spin properly, this leads to slip on the rear wheels (when they spin faster than the front wheels, generally a sign that performance has been exceeded) and DSC acts to change engine output: the power needed for forward movement is reduced. Switching to DTC has a positive effect on this situation, as traction is improved without a loss of power.
When DTC is on, it helps the driver alleviate the situation enough for DSC's measures to become effective. The driver retains complete control over the vehicle.



Press DTC or DSC on yours.. and it should alleviate your problem...

(Here's hoping the M3 has this??? I can see them removing it for that model..)

 

Cheers Al,

Only have 2 options in the M3, traction control off or on!

Kinda figured this out today as you say, thought traction on was a must, but just made things worse, engine was simply cut when wheels started to spin. The only way i could get moving again up the hill was to turn it off and set of in 3rd gear not using the acelerater just using idle rpm, cant imagine it did much for my clutch but eventually did the trick!

Drew

 

I'm not overly sure the M3 has it Alan.

The earlier M3s didn't have TC at all, as much like the classic Imprezas now been referred to "hardcore" cars (ie. crap interiors, hard ride, louder, restrictive bucket seats etc).

The E46 has it purely because its the "done thing" these days. People like to have gadgets in the car instead of realising that it is in fact a driving enthusiasts car.

Neither the M Roadster or the M Coupe had T/C of any kind, they were both equipped with an LSD only.

As with every car, it evolves into something to appeal to a wider audience, often losing site of its origins in the process.

BMW has done well to try and evolve the car and keep its heritage obvious.

 

Suspected as much after I'd finished all that drivel....

I agree though, sticking to the model history is imperative. If a M3 owner wants driver aids to dampen the experience, he'd buy a Merc.... or a 335

Drew.. worst snow in 30 years ... roll on Global warming...

 

YAWN !

sorry Alan, thought that one deserved it though

I took the Jeep out today, they are crude but effective

dunx

P.S. Drew get some narrow rims/tyres for these conditions... if you keep it !

 

If that lovely tech makes you yawn, then the crude side of car mechanics is obviously for you...

Touche! Sir...

 

Yep ! lump hammer and chisel ready for suspension change !

LOL

dunx

 

Try dropping your tire pressures to 10psi if the need occurs again. Bigger contact patch with the road surface, and it allows the tire to flex which pops the compacted in snow out of the tread (a bit like breaking ice cubes from a tray). When I was in Devon a few years back and they had 8-10" of snow overnight I advised several people stuck in the dip where our hotel was to do this and all of them made it up the hill on the next try. Just remember to refil them to the correct pressure as soon as the need passes and definitely before any long or high speed journeys.

 

Just stick to scoobs
Too easy, fun too

 

And offside front wings....

 

And imf1's sliding projectile..... nearly !

dunx

 

Controlled slide I think you'll find

 

Besides young sir ! I believe you have explored the "performance envelope" of the RE-070, further than I did !



dunx