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Old 25 March 2005, 12:40 PM
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I would've stopped but was late for my flight. Hope you got it sorted.
Old 25 March 2005, 12:46 PM
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that was me just got to work out what spec to take it to now


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must say the rac where very fast to get the car recovered
Old 25 March 2005, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by AJF
that was me just got to work out what spec to take it to now


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must say the rac where very fast to get the car recovered
not a good sign YET another 22b goes pete tong...........
Old 25 March 2005, 12:50 PM
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driver error not cars fault cant blame the car still not put me in the best of moods


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Old 25 March 2005, 01:02 PM
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Ran out of petrol??
Old 25 March 2005, 01:09 PM
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no bottom end went when going far to fast with to many passengers and a fully load boot so my fault

just looking for a bomb proof bottom end now

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Old 25 March 2005, 05:20 PM
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Is it a common thing for 22B's to go bang when doing high speeds for a long distance, when I went to TSL about 5months ago there was a 22b in there that had the same problem. Still bloody nice car though.

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Old 25 March 2005, 05:45 PM
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AFIK it's common for all scoobs, not just 22b's. Avoid high speed runs for long distances under heavy loads.
Old 25 March 2005, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Neil Smalley
AFIK it's common for all scoobs, not just 22b's. Avoid high speed runs for long distances under heavy loads.
whats classed ad hight speeds?
I did 80 on the m'way for 3 hours with out stopping.?????

not rally high speeds but a bloody long drive
Old 25 March 2005, 06:25 PM
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I seem to recall most cars this has happend to have been doing 120+. If you do a search you'll find a thread which outlines it all. It was 3-4 years ago if I remember rightly.
Old 25 March 2005, 06:32 PM
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i was doing about the ton up hill fully loaded one of the things i knew i had to watch out for.

time to get the cheque book out sort the problem out

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Old 25 March 2005, 09:53 PM
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Remember the only time I got full red knock activity on my knocklink was when doing about 155mph on a private road with no cars about.
Old 25 March 2005, 09:58 PM
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hell we were only just on about this the other day Adrian bloody sods law
Old 25 March 2005, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by AJF
no bottom end went when going far to fast with to many passengers and a fully load boot so my fault

just looking for a bomb proof bottom end now

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Your not to blame in any way, why??? Does it say in the manual not to do that?
Everyone seems quick to concede guilt in these things but don't forget how much a 22B cost when new. I would be livid but there's nothing you can do about it.

Seems to me to can rag these cars and they blow up. You can also pamper it and do oil changes every farts end and they still blow up!

I just hope someone in the states sues Subaru for defective product or whatever and then they start building much more reliable engines.
Old 25 March 2005, 10:44 PM
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cars not designed to be pushed hard four up and load most rally cars have two adults.

never had any problems when 1or2 adults in the car and i have driven it like a bank robber on many times withouta beat

maybe luck of the draw

simon soon have her back on he road only a small set back just need to work out what spec to build the bottom end to got some nice ideas from www.22b.com so far

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Old 25 March 2005, 10:59 PM
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ive just got back from mapping today got it up to 385.7bhp and 365/375lbs cannt remember which one with out looking had to stop at that due to standard rods should be good for 420 ish with some nice rods

do a 2.33ltr m8 omiga(spelling) pistons, arrow rods, a steel crank light flywheel and some light pulleys(gfb) td05/6 20g unless you want more than 410bhp
Old 25 March 2005, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by AJF
cars not designed to be pushed hard four up and load most rally cars have two adults.

never had any problems when 1or2 adults in the car and i have driven it like a bank robber on many times withouta beat

maybe luck of the draw

simon soon have her back on he road only a small set back just need to work out what spec to build the bottom end to got some nice ideas from www.22b.com so far

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Well in that case Subaru should have only produced the car with 2 seats.
Old 25 March 2005, 11:16 PM
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Can someone just remind me what the legal speed limit on a motorway is in this country?

Is it 70 mph or about twice that? I can't quite recall.
Old 25 March 2005, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
Can someone just remind me what the legal speed limit on a motorway is in this country?

Is it 70 mph or about twice that? I can't quite recall.
I can't see how the 70mph speed limit correlates to a blown engine?
Old 25 March 2005, 11:33 PM
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It seems to me that people might not be experiencing so many blown engines if they weren't thrashing the bollocks off their cars for hundreds of miles at approaching twice the UK speed limit... or in AJF's case 30mph over the limit at 100 mph. If you're doing that speed, four up, uphill, with the scoob's fabled awd transmission losses for a long distance, then it seems to me that you're putting an intolerable strain upon a car that is not designed to be a 155 mph uber-cruiser.
Old 26 March 2005, 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Neil Smalley
I seem to recall most cars this has happend to have been doing 120+. If you do a search you'll find a thread which outlines it all. It was 3-4 years ago if I remember rightly.
Im ok then. iv never done 120
Old 26 March 2005, 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
It seems to me that people might not be experiencing so many blown engines if they weren't thrashing the bollocks off their cars for hundreds of miles at approaching twice the UK speed limit... or in AJF's case 30mph over the limit at 100 mph. If you're doing that speed, four up, uphill, with the scoob's fabled awd transmission losses for a long distance, then it seems to me that you're putting an intolerable strain upon a car that is not designed to be a 155 mph uber-cruiser.
If he has been doing twice the legal speed limit (or even 40% over legal limit) for hudndreds of miles then fair does.

In this country though I take my hat off to anyone to have the ***** to cover that distance at that speed without being stopped by police!
Old 26 March 2005, 07:49 AM
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SPEN555 dont let bubba po get to you m8 lol,he only goes on about speeding because his car is so dam slow

never had a problem with mine at speed, mansfield to santa pod 120miles ish just over 1 hour and 3/4 of a tank
Old 26 March 2005, 08:28 AM
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not to worried about speed petrols as im not using a uk driving licesne. totally agree i never speed in built up areas or near schools but motorways are upto the driver in my eyes
so stop moaning that i was doing 100 or 155 it dont matter unless you can tell me you have never done more than 70 on the motorway

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Old 26 March 2005, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by AJF
not to worried about speed petrols as im not using a uk driving licesne. totally agree i never speed in built up areas or near schools but motorways are upto the driver in my eyes
so stop moaning that i was doing 100 or 155 it dont matter unless you can tell me you have never done more than 70 on the motorway

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adrain his car will not go over 65mph m8
Old 26 March 2005, 08:52 AM
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For once, I'm not having a go at you speeding, I'm just pointing out that going at very high speed for long distances isn't really what the car's designed to do. Of course I do more than 70 on the motorway. Personally, I'm a bit of a wuss anyway and I don't go over 100 simply because I don't like it. I prefer the quickness of the car around the smaller roads near my house. And it's quick enough for me because, as I've said many times, I'm a rubbish driver.

I'm sorry about your car AJF, and I hope you get it sorted. You've recognised that you were caning the car a bit hard and fair play to you for holding your hands up to it, although if it counts for anything I think that you were extremely unlucky for it to have let go like that. You weren't exactly breaking the sound barrier, were you?
I personally don't feel the allure of attaining maximum speed (Gromit) and I can't understand people who do, but I fear scoob engines will continue to go pop whilever their owners do it.
Old 26 March 2005, 08:53 AM
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U should buy a 2.5 bug eye mate
Old 26 March 2005, 09:14 AM
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Adrian,

keep it standard geometry otherwis eyou will hamr the value.

I would find yourself an ej22T get some decent rods and a copy of the standard pistons (JE make them) and put it back together as is. That way it will happily run on an unmodified standard ecu, but is more than capable of some fantastic performance.

Mine let go also on the M25 and I was contemplating the same thing. There is no question that that is the route I hould have taken, but i have learned the expensive way.

If you need help, give me a shout. Am always on 22b.com
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i did 120 for 4hr across spain and it was hot 2up boot full with 60k on the clock in a P1
you must have had some bad luck
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Neil

have blown a p1 up as well
Adam feel free to pm me contact details would like to talk to some who has been down this roa i have post on www.22b.com


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