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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 08:19 AM
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I recently had a mapping session with Bob Rawle on my S202 and Bob said he would give me a power map/data spreadsheet showing the figures achieved.

I cannot upload the Excel file as Scoobynet will not allow me , if anyone wants to see the file just PM me your e-mail address and I will send it to you. I am thinking especially of the renowned font of all knowledge (you know who you are).

The power is not quite what Bob estimated at 354bhp but it did achieve 348bhp which in a 'lightweight' newage is enough (for the moment that is) , the turbo spool is good and the power delivery can be a little savage especially in the wet. Also the torque figure achieved is 338 lb/trq which is a little higher than I had thought.

Next on the agenda is ported headers/up pipe, full 3" exhaust system (being done in January at Prospeed) and possibly an induction kit.

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As a footnote to the above when the mapping was carried out I had a leaking gasket between the turbo and exhaust downpipe, I don't really know how much of an effect this would have had on the power achieved but it certainly did me no favours.
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Nice results

The main thing is that it will now be safe for uk fuel and the drive is much better regardless of peak (pub) figures.

Enjoy
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 12:03 PM
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Tyron,
Do a screen grab of the graph in Excel (save as JPG) and pop that up here mate

Fair play to you as well for getting the exhaust sorted next month! Blimey you don't hang about.
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Dean, not sure how well this will come out as an attachment but I will try.

I definitely cannot upload the second page which shows all the relevant values which really does need to be looked at on a spreadsheet to make sense of it.

Plus the exhaust is being sorted as the downpipe needs to come off, so I came to an 'agreement' with Prospeed about the price of the rest of the system as I expressed how 'cheesed off' I was about the downpipe leak after he had changed it back in Novemeber.
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by dynamix
Nice results

The main thing is that it will now be safe for uk fuel and the drive is much better regardless of peak (pub) figures.

Enjoy
Thanks, it certainly pulls a lot better and is a lot more enjoyable to drive since the mapping.

I thought the pub figures are what we all do it for?
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lol - unfortunately it is only the pub figures that people profess to understanding... try and explain what torque is and how that makes for a quicker car and glazed looks follow very quickly before you get the question .... how fast does it go meester ?
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well done.
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Originally Posted by scooby401
well done.
"well done" Thats it?

You have calmed down! I was waiting for "that turbo won't do that" or "that gearbox is too weak" etc etc. Must be the Christmas spirit? Lol

how is the hibernation going?
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Originally Posted by DYL 4N
"well done" Thats it?

You have calmed down! I was waiting for "that turbo won't do that" or "that gearbox is too weak" etc etc. Must be the Christmas spirit? Lol

how is the hibernation going?
Sweet
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Originally Posted by scooby401
Sweet
Man of many words today?

New brakes fitted?
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Originally Posted by DYL 4N
Man of many words today?

New brakes fitted?
No
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Originally Posted by Cannon Fodder
Dean, not sure how well this will come out as an attachment but I will try.

I definitely cannot upload the second page which shows all the relevant values which really does need to be looked at on a spreadsheet to make sense of it.

Plus the exhaust is being sorted as the downpipe needs to come off, so I came to an 'agreement' with Prospeed about the price of the rest of the system as I expressed how 'cheesed off' I was about the downpipe leak after he had changed it back in Novemeber.
I've noticed something on the graph, i thoght the 2ltr sti engines were supposed to deliver their power alot further up the rev range than a wrx 2.5 but there dos'nt apear to be much in it
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Originally Posted by dynamix
lol - unfortunately it is only the pub figures that people profess to understanding... try and explain what torque is and how that makes for a quicker car and glazed looks follow very quickly before you get the question .... how fast does it go meester ?
I would far prefer torque to bhp anyday of the week, but unfortunately it is bhp that grabs the headlines.
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Great going Tyrone

Driveability is the key for road cars.

Enjoy
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Originally Posted by scooby401
well done.
Originally Posted by scooby401
Sweet
Originally Posted by scooby401
No
Thanks Jarvis, you are obviously deep in thought.

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Originally Posted by DYL 4N
"well done" Thats it?

You have calmed down! I was waiting for "that turbo won't do that" or "that gearbox is too weak" etc etc. Must be the Christmas spirit? Lol

how is the hibernation going?
Originally Posted by DYL 4N
Man of many words today?

New brakes fitted?
I am confused as well Dylan
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Originally Posted by KJD Mk1
Great going Tyrone

Driveability is the key for road cars.

Enjoy
Cheers Kev it is a real joy to drive
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Originally Posted by scooby401
I've noticed something on the graph, i thoght the 2ltr sti engines were supposed to deliver their power alot further up the rev range than a wrx 2.5 but there dos'nt apear to be much in it
I guess it's all in the skill of the mapper and the delivery of the torque as low as possible to aid spool and acceleration.

I just wonder how the FP turbo, injectors plus the other mods and another remap would do for the figures I know the lag would be greater on a modified TD06 20g but what would the end torque and bhp figure be...

The STi CD block, rods and pistons plus gearbox could take the power but would it make a good road car?

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Sounds good to me Ty, 350bhp and 340lbft is about what i would like to get to one day, should make for a good all round road racer

I Still havn't seen it yet either, looking forward to it since i have never seen one before!
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Originally Posted by evil.soup
Sounds good to me Ty, 350bhp and 340lbft is about what i would like to get to one day, should make for a good all round road racer!
Plans are already afoot for the next level of tuning, enough is never enough you should know that by now...

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I Still havn't seen it yet either, looking forward to it since i have never seen one before!
Are you going on the Xmas run I recently changed the front and rear pads/discs so mine need to be run in as well but I plan to do it with some serious brake abuse. I was told to carry out some serious braking from 80-0, let the brakes cool down and then go out and do it again.
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Originally Posted by Cannon Fodder
I guess it's all in the skill of the mapper and the delivery of the torque as low as possible to aid spool and acceleration.
yep, fair play that looks sweet
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Originally Posted by scooby401
yep, fair play that looks sweet
Cheers Jarvis , are you coming on the xmas run?

I know your car is SORN but I am sure nobody would mind you co-driving them.
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Originally Posted by scooby401
yep, fair play that looks sweet
Good god is that a sentance?????
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Originally Posted by Cannon Fodder
Cheers Jarvis , are you coming on the xmas run?

I know your car is SORN but I am sure nobody would mind you co-driving them.
Had an offer off Rich (Trap2terorist) but i'm not a good passenger
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Originally Posted by DYL 4N
Good god is that a sentance?????
Sentance!!! That my friend is a ****ing paragraph
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Originally Posted by scooby401
Had an offer off Rich (Trap2terorist) but i'm not a good passenger
Just do like your mate had to do when we were coming back from the Big Welsh Meet, as you overtook at the base of the A4069 close your eyes and hope for the best.
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Originally Posted by Cannon Fodder
Cheers Kev it is a real joy to drive

Yes Bob did well there Tyron, the car is a gem !!
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Nice Ty ,are you sticking with sports cat
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Originally Posted by Rally fan 555
Yes Bob did well there Tyron, the car is a gem !!
As you know first hand Simon, it now goes like a rocket.

Originally Posted by STI Glenn
Nice Ty ,are you sticking with sports cat
I will be sticking with the sports cat Glenn, I really don't want the hassle with the new VOSA legislation coming in.

Plus of course having to get a cat fitted every time the car needs to be tested. Roll on January so I can get a full 3" system on the car.
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