Notices

bc coilovers making thud noises over minor ridges/potholes - any advice what to check

Old 25 January 2012, 07:20 AM
  #1  
robl
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (30)
 
robl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Kingston-Upon-Hull
Posts: 327
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default bc coilovers making thud noises over minor ridges/potholes - any advice what to check

just need to know as my bc coilovers br series on left side are making some horrible thud noises while going over only minor ridges/pot holes.

any ideas what i can check myself? going to have a look today before work?

I only recently changed them from 27 from hard to 18 from hard in the last week and upped my winter tyres pressure to 40psi.

on the way home this morning dropped psi to 25 but still getting 'thuds' on the left side only.
Old 25 January 2012, 09:58 AM
  #2  
Saalro
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (8)
 
Saalro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: N/A
Posts: 2,310
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

If it's not the anti roll bar links or bushes, then maybe the BC top mounts, BC's are known to knock. But it could at a push be a drive shaft, although this is more on and off of power.

Thanks
Sam
Old 25 January 2012, 10:04 AM
  #3  
scoobynewbie72
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
scoobynewbie72's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Here
Posts: 1,605
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

From history the BC`s are known for it.
Old 25 January 2012, 11:31 AM
  #4  
dazdavies
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (22)
 
dazdavies's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: N/A
Posts: 7,061
Received 82 Likes on 46 Posts
Default

Mine are also doing it on the left rear too. So I will be interested to see how you get on. As soon as I iron out post rebuild niggles it's going up to BC for them to look at it.
Old 25 January 2012, 02:37 PM
  #5  
rickya
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (18)
 
rickya's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Herts/Middx
Posts: 6,322
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Are they adjustable rears or std rubber top mounts?
Old 25 January 2012, 04:53 PM
  #6  
bigarf
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (67)
 
bigarf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: w,yorkshire
Posts: 4,061
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

mine used to do it awsell.hence why i'm now running teins again.
Old 26 January 2012, 12:43 AM
  #7  
dazdavies
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (22)
 
dazdavies's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: N/A
Posts: 7,061
Received 82 Likes on 46 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by rickya
Are they adjustable rears or std rubber top mounts?
Mine are adjustible solid top mounts.
Old 26 January 2012, 04:05 PM
  #8  
robl
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (30)
 
robl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Kingston-Upon-Hull
Posts: 327
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

thx for all tips, i will check everything when i get a day off work.

Anyone recommend a good suspension garage? I don't mind travelling for the right place.

rickya - "Are they adjustable rears or std rubber top mounts?" Not sure as they were on the car when i bought it. The car was mega low when i got it - ie rear arches rubbing on cornering, front wheels catching on arches before you get full lock. so a few months back i raised the rear suspension by 1 inch. The previous owner also had put on 18x8 wheels but I now have my winter wheels on that are 18x7.5 which made a good difference - no more rubbing on tyres.

It feels like one of the shocks has died, as even minor dips in road where theres a small damage to tarmac u feel a good bang through the car on that side.

I've had the spring twang before after hard cornering.
Old 28 January 2012, 08:28 AM
  #9  
beliblisk
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (16)
 
beliblisk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Ljubljana,Slovenia
Posts: 1,574
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Did you check top mounts screws.Since they are metal and if not fully tightened mouts might hit agains chassis,metal on metal sound. I have RM series with fully adjustable top mounts and mine knock only when hitting some major pot hole which is understandable.
Old 29 January 2012, 11:30 PM
  #10  
rickya
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (18)
 
rickya's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Herts/Middx
Posts: 6,322
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

I would change the rears top mount section to std rubber ones and see If it improves.
Old 30 January 2012, 04:54 AM
  #11  
robl
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (30)
 
robl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Kingston-Upon-Hull
Posts: 327
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

beliblisk - yes I checked top mount bolts and all are tight on all 4 sides. Its only recently about a week after adjusting them to 16 clicks from soft that it started happening.

I have just gone now to 7 clicks from soft on all 4 corners and it has improved a little. I also removed front upper strut brace today that i fitted a few weeks back, i'll see if it improves on the way to work today.

rickya - thx for the tip but I think I'm best taking it to a garage to have a look at.

The rear strut top adjusters have remote adjusters, could one of these be bad and so maybe set on hardest setting constantly?

Last edited by robl; 30 January 2012 at 05:01 AM. Reason: spelling lol
Old 02 February 2012, 12:20 PM
  #12  
Markyscoob
Scooby Regular
 
Markyscoob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Isle of Man
Posts: 569
Received 9 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

If you feel a click as you adjust then they are fine.

Have you checked the bottom mounts? the spring seat and preload, etc.

Rubber mounts use a conical spring not a parallel one, but Apex have all these in stock.

Last edited by Markyscoob; 02 February 2012 at 12:22 PM.
Old 02 February 2012, 04:53 PM
  #13  
robl
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (30)
 
robl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Kingston-Upon-Hull
Posts: 327
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I'm thinking its the front passenger side shock as when you press down on car and release its really very firm, no bounce at all.

Markyscoob - yeah i can feel a click when adjusting. I've got a mechanic friend coming round tomorrow to have a look, i will mention bottom mounts, the spring seat and preload, etc. cheers
Old 03 February 2012, 05:02 PM
  #14  
robl
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (30)
 
robl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Kingston-Upon-Hull
Posts: 327
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

just looked today and theres alot of oil around area of strut so looks like it needs a rebuild.

thx to all that replied for the help.
Old 23 December 2014, 12:54 AM
  #15  
madfiddler
Scooby Regular
 
madfiddler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Warwickshire
Posts: 475
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Sorry to bump such an old thread, but thought I'd chip in.

This has been happening to mine from day 1. I asked the guys from API to check and they said it's fine, but I still shudder when ever I hit a pot-hole. The bang is so loud. A friend suggested that perhaps the surface is hitting the rim? My tyre pressures are fine.
Old 23 December 2014, 07:03 AM
  #16  
fat-thomas
BANNED
iTrader: (4)
 
fat-thomas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: fawor's car wash
Posts: 4,258
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

easy fix.

bin the cheap chinese ****.
Old 23 December 2014, 10:33 AM
  #17  
fawor
BANNED
iTrader: (3)
 
fawor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: crushing fat-thomass
Posts: 1,205
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by fat-thomas
easy fix.

bin the cheap chinese ****.
stop eat and talking ****e
few forum members swap ast for bc and saying bc's are a lot better on road
last review which i read was from member with 537bhp hatch sti
Old 23 December 2014, 10:40 AM
  #18  
the shreksta
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (20)
 
the shreksta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: hinckley
Posts: 8,445
Received 495 Likes on 339 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by fawor
stop eat and talking ****e
few forum members swap ast for bc and saying bc's are a lot better on road
last review which i read was from member with 537bhp hatch sti
Why does he have to stop eat???
Old 23 December 2014, 10:46 AM
  #19  
Cpt Jack Sparrow
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (14)
 
Cpt Jack Sparrow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Bedfordshire
Posts: 2,417
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by the shreksta
Why does he have to stop eat???

'Cos he's Fat
Old 23 December 2014, 10:46 AM
  #20  
BrownPantsRacing
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (6)
 
BrownPantsRacing's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Herts & Bucks
Posts: 8,700
Received 128 Likes on 107 Posts
Default

Maybe Flawor was telling his old mate Tubs to stop and eat. It's hard to know.
Old 23 December 2014, 11:23 AM
  #21  
madfiddler
Scooby Regular
 
madfiddler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Warwickshire
Posts: 475
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Mmmm, I can't really afford to throw them away. From a handling point of view they have certainly improved the car imo, it's just the pot holes... or even bumps in the road which sound like I've just driven over a curb...
Old 23 December 2014, 11:45 AM
  #22  
fat-thomas
BANNED
iTrader: (4)
 
fat-thomas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: fawor's car wash
Posts: 4,258
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by fawor
stop eat and talking ****e
few forum members swap ast for bc and saying bc's are a lot better on road
last review which i read was from member with 537bhp hatch sti
ive had them and like your wrx they are cheap nasty sh1te.
Old 23 December 2014, 11:54 AM
  #23  
madfiddler
Scooby Regular
 
madfiddler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Warwickshire
Posts: 475
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by fat-thomas
ive had them and like your wrx they are cheap nasty sh1te.
Really not helpful! I was asking a serious question.
Old 23 December 2014, 11:56 AM
  #24  
fat-thomas
BANNED
iTrader: (4)
 
fat-thomas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: fawor's car wash
Posts: 4,258
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by madfiddler
Really not helpful! I was asking a serious question.
its a serious answer they knock and bang due to being cheap chinese crap.
live with it or buy better quality coilovers
Old 23 December 2014, 12:02 PM
  #25  
madfiddler
Scooby Regular
 
madfiddler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Warwickshire
Posts: 475
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I don't for one minute believe that API would sell me 'cheap chinese crap'.

So, I'm presuming that the bang is not the road surface making contact with the wheel rim then?
Old 23 December 2014, 12:08 PM
  #26  
fat-thomas
BANNED
iTrader: (4)
 
fat-thomas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: fawor's car wash
Posts: 4,258
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by madfiddler
I don't for one minute believe that API would sell me 'cheap chinese crap'.

So, I'm presuming that the bang is not the road surface making contact with the wheel rim then?
Usually top mounts in my experience of bcs
Old 23 December 2014, 12:11 PM
  #27  
madfiddler
Scooby Regular
 
madfiddler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Warwickshire
Posts: 475
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

OK, thank you. Can this be fixed at all?
Old 23 December 2014, 12:14 PM
  #28  
fat-thomas
BANNED
iTrader: (4)
 
fat-thomas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: fawor's car wash
Posts: 4,258
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by madfiddler
OK, thank you. Can this be fixed at all?
I never found a cure,reset preload,checked,had geo done.
But to be fair coilovers aren't a great choice on the road no matter what make.
The biggest issue I found with bcs was they are silly bouncy even on softest setting on country roads.
OEM shocks and lower springs are a far better combo for the road.
Old 23 December 2014, 12:22 PM
  #29  
madfiddler
Scooby Regular
 
madfiddler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Warwickshire
Posts: 475
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

OK thanks for that.
Old 23 December 2014, 02:19 PM
  #30  
BrownPantsRacing
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (6)
 
BrownPantsRacing's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Herts & Bucks
Posts: 8,700
Received 128 Likes on 107 Posts
Default

I have to agree with Tubs. This is why I stuck with OE shocks with decent lowering springs on my every day road car.

I have owned lots of cars road or race with coilovers and none were great on the road.

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: bc coilovers making thud noises over minor ridges/potholes - any advice what to check



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 06:51 PM.