Allignment settings / Whiteline ARB
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Allignment settings / Whiteline ARB
What allingment settings wouold people suggest to use when upgrading ARBs to the Whiteline 22mm front, 24mm rear combo. The car is MY 06 WRX Wagon.
Thanks for the advice guys, I know you won't let me down
Thanks for the advice guys, I know you won't let me down
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This is a tricky topic, but for a 'mild' modded chassis go to www.whiteline.com.au and search hard (cr@p site) and you will find:
Road/faster road/competition geometry settings.
Follow the chassis mods described and they will tell you the 'best' settings to try.
They are surprisingly good.
Graham
Road/faster road/competition geometry settings.
Follow the chassis mods described and they will tell you the 'best' settings to try.
They are surprisingly good.
Graham
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IIRC the 'touring' settings (which were also tried out in a long running series in Japanese Performance mag I seem to recall) suitable for the usual Whiteline mods are:
Front - zero toe, 1 degree neg camber
Rear - 1mm toe out each side, 1 degree negative camber (not adjustable on standard classic)
Tyre pressure 37psi front, 32psi rear.
Track settings are the same toe, but 1.5-2 degrees of negative camber front and back IIRC. As Graham says, by trawling around you can find the info on the WHiteline site.
Front - zero toe, 1 degree neg camber
Rear - 1mm toe out each side, 1 degree negative camber (not adjustable on standard classic)
Tyre pressure 37psi front, 32psi rear.
Track settings are the same toe, but 1.5-2 degrees of negative camber front and back IIRC. As Graham says, by trawling around you can find the info on the WHiteline site.
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Just apoint to note (although you may know it already) It's just the way I read your original post.
Changing the Antiroll bars will not change the suspension geometry.
If you've had an alignment already it wont affect those settings.
Obviously if you've not had the car aligned before then it is certainly a worthwile thing to have done.
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Changing the Antiroll bars will not change the suspension geometry.
If you've had an alignment already it wont affect those settings.
Obviously if you've not had the car aligned before then it is certainly a worthwile thing to have done.
Andy
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be careful with what's been said above, 1mm toe out on the rear is far too much on a road car for the average driver, combine this with your 24mm rear bar and you will hae one hell of a handful in the wet - could be good in the dry though
Your best bet is to discuss your requirements with whomever is setting up your car, they should have some valuable advice or suggestions that will suit you and your driving style.
be careful with what's been said above, 1mm toe out on the rear is far too much on a road car for the average driver, combine this with your 24mm rear bar and you will hae one hell of a handful in the wet - could be good in the dry though
Your best bet is to discuss your requirements with whomever is setting up your car, they should have some valuable advice or suggestions that will suit you and your driving style.
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Well I'm just requoting what Whiteline suggest for users of their products. I am a decidely 'average' driver and I've not found it a problem at all, it's just increased my enjoyment of the car. As always it's down to each individual what they're happy with. The fact that Vamos is after a 24mm rear bar leads me to think he wants the tail end a bit more active.
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InMHO
A road Impreza with a stock front bar and a 22 mm rear upgrade and (to be complimentary) a Fuzz set-up will be a nice mannered car with no real surprises.
If you want to go a bit further, then 22 mm front and 24mm rear (combo i have) is vice free too!
Sorry for the repeat vid, but this car is easy to drive, and this bend is not easy, and it WAS damp!
http://www.dropshots.com/day.php?use...1&ctime=030140
Graham
A road Impreza with a stock front bar and a 22 mm rear upgrade and (to be complimentary) a Fuzz set-up will be a nice mannered car with no real surprises.
If you want to go a bit further, then 22 mm front and 24mm rear (combo i have) is vice free too!
Sorry for the repeat vid, but this car is easy to drive, and this bend is not easy, and it WAS damp!
http://www.dropshots.com/day.php?use...1&ctime=030140
Graham
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Rare now. People don't come along to the hills to take them for me, so get stuck!
Try this one:
http://www.dropshots.com/daymainfram...0030102&cimg=5
I get bored of them too!!
Graham
Try this one:
http://www.dropshots.com/daymainfram...0030102&cimg=5
I get bored of them too!!
Graham
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TBH Andy set up my car from "new" when he added the RARB drop links and anti lift. Pretty much everyone says the Whiteline RARB is the cheapest mod £ for £ you can do. Add the others as I have and you have a nice handle most things car that won't bite you unless you really push it.
With a brake upgrade I now think mine is as it should be for everyday use.
For the weekend I'd love an extra 35bhp but other than that its fine until I can have a Spec C RA or a Litchfield T25 with Porsche calipers.
With a brake upgrade I now think mine is as it should be for everyday use.
For the weekend I'd love an extra 35bhp but other than that its fine until I can have a Spec C RA or a Litchfield T25 with Porsche calipers.
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Thanks guys, this is great stuff.
TBH I expect the 22/24 ARB combo to be quite neutral in handling terms, plus there is quite a lot of adjustability in the ARBs and also the alignment is not exactly irreversible. I will go with Whiteline recommendations, and then suck it and see. I am looking for reduced understeer and oversteer available, when wanted. The car should be usable on the road, but will see a fair bit of track use, and I want a more focused and aggressive handling than what comes out of the box, hence why I want to adjust the alignment settings to suit.
This is a stage one mod (together with ALK, performance pads and braided hoses), next stage should bring some coilovers, probably KW v3.
TBH I expect the 22/24 ARB combo to be quite neutral in handling terms, plus there is quite a lot of adjustability in the ARBs and also the alignment is not exactly irreversible. I will go with Whiteline recommendations, and then suck it and see. I am looking for reduced understeer and oversteer available, when wanted. The car should be usable on the road, but will see a fair bit of track use, and I want a more focused and aggressive handling than what comes out of the box, hence why I want to adjust the alignment settings to suit.
This is a stage one mod (together with ALK, performance pads and braided hoses), next stage should bring some coilovers, probably KW v3.
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https://www.scoobynet.com/searching-...s-t445470.html
The FULL story.
Too many read this lot now and I'm getting blown-off on the track by some 'following' the developments, so closing the door a bit to be honest. Against my open nature, but...
To get close to this have a chat with Powerstation as the skills in that company are a major contribution to the car's drivability.
Graham
The FULL story.
Too many read this lot now and I'm getting blown-off on the track by some 'following' the developments, so closing the door a bit to be honest. Against my open nature, but...
To get close to this have a chat with Powerstation as the skills in that company are a major contribution to the car's drivability.
Graham
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Originally Posted by 911
https://www.scoobynet.com/searching-...s-t445470.html
The FULL story.
Too many read this lot now and I'm getting blown-off on the track by some 'following' the developments, so closing the door a bit to be honest. Against my open nature, but...
To get close to this have a chat with Powerstation as the skills in that company are a major contribution to the car's drivability.
Graham
The FULL story.
Too many read this lot now and I'm getting blown-off on the track by some 'following' the developments, so closing the door a bit to be honest. Against my open nature, but...
To get close to this have a chat with Powerstation as the skills in that company are a major contribution to the car's drivability.
Graham
Oh yea, I have seen your mammoth thread on this before. EPIC stuff, and a jolly good read too.
TBH, this is way over my ambitions, I just want the car to handle in a sastisfying manner, so it is fun for my three or four annual ring trips AND good on the B roads too.
I don't think there is much more that you have done to your chassis, beyond the Whiteline items and a set of coilovers, is there? Noltec top mounts, camber bolts and maybe one or two other tweeks? I have tried emailing with Powerstation, but as soon as they realised that there was no business in me - I live in Prague - they have kind of lost interest. Don't blame them.
In any case - ARBs and ALK going in next week, together with uprated pads and braided hoses, and that is all that is budgeted for this year. I guess that means KWs in the spring, although I will make my mind up on that AFTER the ARBs have been round the ring in October.
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