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Old 26 April 2006, 07:46 PM
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looking through a mag the other day i noticed a 'rally nuts' advert, advertising whiteline products so i looked for the anti lift kit to find they have 2 different kits listed 1 for the road @ £89.99 or 1 motorsport kit@ £115.99.
what is the difference for the extra mony? surely its only a diff bush?
Old 26 April 2006, 07:49 PM
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Motorsport one has a much lower production volume. This increases cost.

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Road one has a much higher production volume. This reduces cost.
Old 27 April 2006, 08:59 AM
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Cynical reply is they're both the same but the motorsport one makes more profit.
Seriously, why don't you ask them?
Old 27 April 2006, 06:23 PM
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I race on the 'street grade' units and they are fine.
The 'yellow bush' ALK is the posular road spec, and I think the race ones are a rock-hard blue, but could be wrong.
Try www.whiteline.com.au or contact Job who is the UK Whiteline man!
Graham
ps: Job knows his stuff.
Old 27 April 2006, 08:28 PM
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As Graham says, the motorsport anti lift kit REALLY is only for competition use only. The bushings are almost solid to reduce castor loss during cornering as much as possible. It is one of the things to fit if you are looking for the last few tenths on a stage or track and the rest of the suspension is being optimised as well. They can be VERY noisy for road use. For most applications the standard ALK is perfect. If you are an old git like me, you are better to use the Comfort version to have similar levels of NVH at all times.

The difference in price really is volume related both in manufacturing and stock turn-over. Whiteline probably manufactures more than 500 standard ALKs for every motorsport ALK.

Compare it to Kayaba and Penske. Kayaba Subaru shocks cost less than £100 and they manufacture thousands. Penske shocks for a Subaru will start somewhere from around £1000 upwards each and they will manufacture a few dozen.

Cheers
Old 27 April 2006, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 911
I race on the 'street grade' units and they are fine.
The 'yellow bush' ALK is the posular road spec, and I think the race ones are a rock-hard blue, but could be wrong.
Try www.whiteline.com.au or contact Job who is the UK Whiteline man!
Graham
ps: Job knows his stuff.
got blue on mine, didn't realise they were race spec
Old 27 April 2006, 09:47 PM
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i have a whiteline one, on my uk classic reduices about 90%
of the front end lift, so its well worth it.
chris.
Old 27 April 2006, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by flopsy
i have a whiteline one, on my uk classic reduices about 90%
of the front end lift, so its well worth it.
chris.

Old 27 April 2006, 10:26 PM
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;-)
Old 27 April 2006, 11:56 PM
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Last time I saw a motorsport one it was black bushed, not blue... perhaps it was the light.


Andy
Old 27 April 2006, 11:58 PM
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If only I could work out the magic that is this anti lift.
30 mins of castor is good by anyones book though.

Andy
Old 28 April 2006, 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
Last time I saw a motorsport one it was black bushed, not blue... perhaps it was the light.


Andy
Black it is.......
Old 28 April 2006, 06:36 AM
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Just bought Whilte line ALk kit, Bushes are black ie motorsport ones made of nylon rather than rubber.
Old 28 April 2006, 07:05 PM
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Must have been my age/eyesight or the fact that i am very colourbling......
All 3 I guess.

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Old 28 April 2006, 11:44 PM
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Do you not think black/other colour blindness constitutes... well, blindness?
Old 29 April 2006, 08:06 AM
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No.
I am actually 'blind' to red and green as many european men are.

If I look at a cable with red as the colour and a green trace colour i am 'blind' to the trace colour.
I wasn't allowed to do electrics as an apprentice....

Just to assure my passengers, I can see traffic light/brake lights, but sometimes have to look hard to notice them!

Off for my medication.
Graham
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Was only winding you up sir
Old 29 April 2006, 08:25 PM
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Yes., I know...just that those are the facts!

All i do know is the yellow ALK is fine, no strange noises and such like, but I do think there are better ways to spend the $$ and get better results, ie Nortec top mounts.

Things are 'cool' as my daughter would say.....
I'm too old for that!
Graham
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Hi i have a my99 impreza is it worth putting a Anti Lift Kit on

thanks
Old 01 May 2006, 04:51 PM
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IMHO:

Fit antiroll bars (22mm)
ALK
Decent tyres
Expert alignment (ie Fuzz.Curtis at Power Station)

Do that all in one go, and better still add some Ebach springs if the dampers are ok.

It will drive a treat.

Graham
Old 01 May 2006, 04:51 PM
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yes.

On the ball as usual Graham
Old 01 May 2006, 05:01 PM
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Fuzz,911,.

Do you two never stop working,

John
Old 01 May 2006, 06:49 PM
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Nowt to do with work..
Just advising to the best of my knowledge, what works and what doesn't .


Andy
Old 01 May 2006, 07:52 PM
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John:
I promise you I switch-off from the office every now and then.
It's Andy I worry about!

Hope you both make it to Prescott next weekend!
Graham
Old 01 May 2006, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 911
John:
I promise you I switch-off from the office every now and then.
It's Andy I worry about!

Hope you both make it to Prescott next weekend!
Graham
Ou est 'Prescott'?
Old 01 May 2006, 08:06 PM
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T'other side of tewksbury Job.

http://www.bugatti.co.uk/find.htm


Andy
Old 02 May 2006, 06:22 PM
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What are you looking at, cost wise, for this little lot? Ball park figure will do.

Thanks

Dave

Originally Posted by 911
IMHO:

Fit antiroll bars (22mm)
ALK
Decent tyres
Expert alignment (ie Fuzz.Curtis at Power Station)

Do that all in one go, and better still add some Ebach springs if the dampers are ok.

It will drive a treat.

Graham
Old 02 May 2006, 09:11 PM
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I did all mine ages ago, but a rough 'guestimate'

Roll bars: £250 fitted
ALK: 150 fitted
Tyres: 280 fitted
Alignment: about 200 (don't underestimate the benefit of this bit)
Springs fitted and supplied, about 400....or fit Sti V3 or V$/5/6 stock units.

fuzz will know much better.

Some of the above can be had second hand too if you search hard enough saving about 300.

Graham
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Now I'm at work I can get at the prices.

Rear bar £115 (£25 to fit)
Front bar £100 (£25 to fit)
ALK £150 (for newage) (£50 to fit)
Alignment £70
Eibachs £160 (£100 to fit)
Toyo 225 x 45 x 17 £88 each (if ya have all four)

rounded to the nearest pound and all + vat.


Andy

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