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Old 27 September 2005, 09:59 PM
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Question Naseem Hamed - Will He Ever Return ?

OK, so he wasn't / isn't everyone's cup of tea, but for me he was a fasinating boxer.

I don't understand why such a great talent would pack it all in because of one defeat In his prime, he was being compared to the great Ali. Surely one defeat can't ruin a career

The latest pictures of him looking fat and unhealthy probably answers the question in the title, but I've been watching some old boxing DVD's - OK he was arrogant and cocky, but no - one could deny the lad had talent.

Discuss...

(ps - I'm not interested in posts slagging him off for his driving etiquette around Sheffield - I'd like this thread to stay on topic - ie, boxing)
Old 27 September 2005, 10:10 PM
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I'd say being fat was the least of his worries at the moment....

Hope he stays a nobody.
Old 27 September 2005, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Terzo 333
I'm not interested in posts slagging him off for his driving etiquette around Sheffield - I'd like this thread to stay on topic - ie, boxing
Better shift it to Sports then
Old 27 September 2005, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Terzo 333

I don't understand why such a great talent would pack it all in because of one defeat
Simply Matt, someone had worked out how to beat him; after that he would have struggled. Consider too, that an unbeaten fighter enters the ring with a huge advantage. Factor in also that Naseem Hamed was an extremely arrogagant and egotistical boxer.....

The only return likely now is one to Greggs for another round of pies!


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Old 27 September 2005, 11:06 PM
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Better boxers around to watch anyway. Hatton, Cotto, Mayweather. When he fought the best he lost.
Old 27 September 2005, 11:18 PM
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Naseem was the same as Eubank, fighting bums in the uk who just made em money. Although Eubank did have some hard fights with Watson and Benn.

As soon as Naseem fought a world class fighter he got his a$$ proper kicked. The guy was leagues ahead of him and so why bother coming back for another beating when you have made your money in the business.
Old 27 September 2005, 11:25 PM
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he seems shorter than me
Old 28 September 2005, 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Terzo 333
In his prime, he was being compared to the great Ali.
slight correction - he compared himself with the great Ali.
Old 28 September 2005, 12:49 AM
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the guys a millionaire with a coulple of kids.
He doesnt need to make a come back.
why risk getting your brain more smashed in
Old 28 September 2005, 06:58 AM
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Who cares?
Old 28 September 2005, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by jfrf
the guys a millionaire with a coulple of kids.
He doesnt need to make a come back.
why risk getting your brain more smashed in
to bloody right.
Old 28 September 2005, 08:33 AM
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He has more in common with Sylvestor Stallone than Ali !

Great showman, crap boxer.

But when he was at his peak he was very entertaining .

No way he'd return - although looking at him maybe a Hamed v Tyson fight could be on
Old 28 September 2005, 08:59 AM
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No way back, though I did see his Range Rover Sport parked outside his private gym this week, awesome numberplate "4 TEAM"
Old 28 September 2005, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Reality
He has more in common with Sylvestor Stallone than Ali !

Great showman, crap boxer.

But when he was at his peak he was very entertaining .

No way he'd return - although looking at him maybe a Hamed v Tyson fight could be on
Good post, hit the nail on the head. entertainer against mickey mouse opponents. Not a very good boxer though.
Old 28 September 2005, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Reality
looking at him maybe a Hamed v Tyson fight could be on
Old 28 September 2005, 12:11 PM
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Well,
I for one was completely in awe at how good he was in his prime and watched all his fights (on TV).
I am not that big a fan of boxing, but I thought he was an especially gifted fighter and i would have loved to se him come bck to the ring.
I doubt he will, now.
Old 28 September 2005, 01:49 PM
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I used to laugh at this no-mark cherry picking waste of huge ears...

Having had 2 belts stripped due to fight picking and being threatened with losing his one remaining belt if he didnt fight the number 1 contender, he fought Barrera and got absolutely destroyed. He tried everything, the glove blag, the 45 minute delay to out phsyc his opponent but Barrera wasnt phased and beat 12 cans out of the useless prat...

I went to a dinner with Nigel Benn where he explained how much of a coward Naseem Hamed has been during his pro career, especially by not training harder to try again and come back to reclaim Barreras titles...

I believe he came back in Dubai for a while fighting boxers with no limbs or something for a bit but with 30 million ish in the bank why coe back now and look crap again?

Techinically a crap boxer, outclassed by good technical boxers... I remember when he went 12 rounds with Sugar Boy Malinga (IIRC) and the points went his way (well in Mr Warren) when he was outclassed for much of the fight...
He was a good showman for those who like watching boxing but know little about the beauty and skill involved in the game.

I have all 3 Barrera v Moralles fights on DVD if you want to see boxing at its most amazing...
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Old 28 September 2005, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Abdabz
I used to laugh at this no-mark cherry picking waste of huge ears...

Having had 2 belts stripped due to fight picking and being threatened with losing his one remaining belt if he didnt fight the number 1 contender, he fought Barrera and got absolutely destroyed. He tried everything, the glove blag, the 45 minute delay to out phsyc his opponent but Barrera wasnt phased and beat 12 cans out of the useless prat...

I went to a dinner with Nigel Benn where he explained how much of a coward Naseem Hamed has been during his pro career, especially by not training harder to try again and come back to reclaim Barreras titles...

I believe he came back in Dubai for a while fighting boxers with no limbs or something for a bit but with 30 million ish in the bank why coe back now and look crap again?

Techinically a crap boxer, outclassed by good technical boxers... I remember when he went 12 rounds with Sugar Boy Malinga (IIRC) and the points went his way (well in Mr Warren) when he was outclassed for much of the fight...
He was a good showman for those who like watching boxing but know little about the beauty and skill involved in the game.

I have all 3 Barrera v Moralles fights on DVD if you want to see boxing at its most amazing...
P

any chance of a copy of that DVD?

I'll pay costs.
Old 28 September 2005, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
any chance of a copy of that DVD?

I'll pay costs.
No worries PM me your details... I'll post it and let you know costs... Its VHS quality on DVD but you dont miss a thing
In fact I think I'll watch one again tonight after the footy
P
Old 29 September 2005, 07:12 PM
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Some interesting replies, thanks. I now percieve "The Prince" in a different light after re - watching a few of his fights.

I think Abdabz sums Naz when he says :

"He was a good showman for those who like watching boxing but know little about the beauty and skill involved in the game"

So, Amir Khan - plenty of hype - is he the next Naseem or is he fairly handy in the ring

Matt
Old 30 September 2005, 01:47 PM
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Khans a good fighter, nas wasnt!
Old 30 September 2005, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Terzo 333
Some interesting replies, thanks. I now percieve "The Prince" in a different light after re - watching a few of his fights.

I think Abdabz sums Naz when he says :

"He was a good showman for those who like watching boxing but know little about the beauty and skill involved in the game"

So, Amir Khan - plenty of hype - is he the next Naseem or is he fairly handy in the ring

Matt
Cheers Terzo

Khan is a great 'all out massive burst of none stop 3 round action' boxer who has a long way to go before he is top boy.
The potential is certainly there, a good reach, fast hands, agression and a good eye for the right punch. He needs to be eased into the professional circuit, and needs to spar 12 rounds and learn how to break down a boxer coz no matter how much energy he has he couldnt do what he is ffamous for now for 12 rounds against anyone
A potential world champion, yes, but its the mexicans et al who we hear nothing about till theyre at their peak that do well at these ikkle weights.
If the team he has around him is good and controlled and not just a fame hunting entourage then its all there for him...
I wish him all the best.
P
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Originally Posted by Richard_P
slight correction - he compared himself with the great Ali.
To be fair Naz in his prime was being compared to the great Ali, IIRC it went something like:

Naseem Hamed, unlike Mohammed Ali, only seems to fight nobodies and has-beens who he is sure he can beat.

The 'Prince' is, was, and always will be, a talentless gob****e with a bad attitude
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Originally Posted by CrisPDuk
The 'Prince' is, was, and always will be, a talentless gob****e with a bad attitude
or '********' for short
Old 01 October 2005, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by LUCKO
or '********' for short
Yeah, suppose that would do too
Old 06 October 2005, 08:24 AM
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Watched the Naseem - Barrera fight last night (to be fair its the first time I've sat down and watched the whole fight) I now see what people mean about him not being a good fighter - he was totally outboxed.

All he had to rely on was knocking Barrera out with a single punch, which never came.
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Get a look at some old tyson vids, pre jap ko that was something worth talking about.
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Originally Posted by Terzo 333
Watched the Naseem - Barrera fight last night (to be fair its the first time I've sat down and watched the whole fight) I now see what people mean about him not being a good fighter - he was totally outboxed.

All he had to rely on was knocking Barrera out with a single punch, which never came.
I think if he'd got his best punch in against Barrera that would have just annoyed Barrera
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Nas traded on speed and reflexs and the opponent never saw the punch coming,he was losing sum of that speed in his last couple of fights so he would have nothing to offer now,he didnt want to fight mike brodie and would of had no chance aganist scott harrison,we wont see him in the ring again.
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I do think some of you are being a bit harsh.

In my mind he was a good fighter in his day. I remember him completely destoying Duke Mckenzie, who was then world champ.

Granted he was an arrogant ***, but I enjoyed watched his fights.


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