Haye vs Bellew
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04 March 2017, 11:50 PM
#11
So much for your prediction... looks like Bellew has ended Hayes career... TBH I've never thought much of Haye... whenever he comes up against someone that's not frightened and can dodge a punch he loses. 
About time he retired before he gets hurt.
05 March 2017, 07:37 AM
#17
As for Bellew another gob shoit that doesn't even look like he's in good shape... threw a dozen punches then needed 2 rounds to recover, Haye was the same... neither of them had any stamina... seems to me like they both could do with a shed load more road work... and I mean road, not 10 mins on the treadmill.
05 March 2017, 12:38 PM
#18
to be fair haye has only fought twice in the last 5 years and it showed. the ring rust was there for all to see. his timing was way off for the first 4 rounds and he was swinging for the fences a bit because of that. by the 5th he looked like he was getting his eye in a bit then he stumbled as he was backing up in the 6th and his achilles went. game over after that as his biggest weapons, his power punches and movement were severely limited. he fought on though so deserves some credit and to me the fight says more about tony bellend bellew, who looked like the only thing he could put away was a chicken dinner. any decent fighter would have put haye to the sword right away. haye didnt look that hurt from the punch that put him over it looked more like the balance issues from the injury which made it hard for him to get back to his feet and he sprung up at the 9 count only for the towel to fly in. haye apparently seen a specialist on wednesday about his ankle/achilles so there was obviously an issue there. a shame as the fight would have got interesting in the later rounds with an uninjured haye.
06 March 2017, 07:37 PM
#22
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It's laughable some of the fights that make it to pay per view these days, people get drawn in to the pre fight acting where fighters say they hate each other, do a lot of pretend shoving around at press conferences etc etc
A lot of boxers these days are just very good salesmen, they know hot to get fights and how to sell them. The standard across the world barring a handful of fighters is terrible, it's certainly nowhere near as good as it was in the 70's, 80's and 90's.
A lot of boxers these days are just very good salesmen, they know hot to get fights and how to sell them. The standard across the world barring a handful of fighters is terrible, it's certainly nowhere near as good as it was in the 70's, 80's and 90's.
06 March 2017, 08:54 PM
#23
It's laughable some of the fights that make it to pay per view these days, people get drawn in to the pre fight acting where fighters say they hate each other, do a lot of pretend shoving around at press conferences etc etc
A lot of boxers these days are just very good salesmen, they know hot to get fights and how to sell them. The standard across the world barring a handful of fighters is terrible, it's certainly nowhere near as good as it was in the 70's, 80's and 90's.
A lot of boxers these days are just very good salesmen, they know hot to get fights and how to sell them. The standard across the world barring a handful of fighters is terrible, it's certainly nowhere near as good as it was in the 70's, 80's and 90's.
06 March 2017, 10:43 PM
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I've been following boxing all my life and had a stint at some amateur boxing for a few years back in 2009 so I feel that I'm qualified enough to make a decent review of the fight, but it's purely my opinion and of course that varies.....even though most of what i read and hear is utter tosh.
First of all I'm not a big fan of either so this is purely an unbiased review, completely how I seen it, but I did want Bellew to win, that was until after what happened in the 6th round.
Was Haye injured? Of course he was, anyone watching the fight would have known that, anyone who didn't see what happened and how he completely changed at that point need their eyes checking.
Was Haye gassed out? Nope.....in fact until that point in the 6th round Bellew was breathing much heavier than Haye, watch it! I did.
For the first 2 rounds Bellew was excellent, defensively good and boxing well on the back foot, for these 2 rounds Haye was wild, looking for the knockout and every time he threw that big left hook Bellew seen it a mile off and easily slipped it......making Haye look stupid.
But from the 3rd round onwards Haye started to box smart, using his jab more and applying the pressure constantly with Bellew always on the back foot.
And then clearly in the 6th round he injures himself after throwing a big punch, these things happen but at the end of the 6th round he was up on the judges cards. Imho if he hadn't injured himself he'd have either won on points or wore Bellew down and manage to put him down. I personally feel Haye had the better conditioning and would have lasted better than Bellew.
But.....the injury, how he managed to continue is mind boggling, pride!! Bellew couldn't even finish him with a flurry of punches, hard punches, he wasn't letting up. Strange from someone who had broke their hand. Anyway. If you watch closely when Haye goes through the ropes in the 11th round it was more to do with the injury than the punches from Bellew themself, he couldn't sustain the position he was in from trying to slip the punches and his leg gave way from supporting his weight.
I hope there is another fight between them and fingers crossed no injuries, no ifs or buts and then we'll see for sure.
Fact is Joshua smashes either of them.......
First of all I'm not a big fan of either so this is purely an unbiased review, completely how I seen it, but I did want Bellew to win, that was until after what happened in the 6th round.
Was Haye injured? Of course he was, anyone watching the fight would have known that, anyone who didn't see what happened and how he completely changed at that point need their eyes checking.
Was Haye gassed out? Nope.....in fact until that point in the 6th round Bellew was breathing much heavier than Haye, watch it! I did.
For the first 2 rounds Bellew was excellent, defensively good and boxing well on the back foot, for these 2 rounds Haye was wild, looking for the knockout and every time he threw that big left hook Bellew seen it a mile off and easily slipped it......making Haye look stupid.
But from the 3rd round onwards Haye started to box smart, using his jab more and applying the pressure constantly with Bellew always on the back foot.
And then clearly in the 6th round he injures himself after throwing a big punch, these things happen but at the end of the 6th round he was up on the judges cards. Imho if he hadn't injured himself he'd have either won on points or wore Bellew down and manage to put him down. I personally feel Haye had the better conditioning and would have lasted better than Bellew.
But.....the injury, how he managed to continue is mind boggling, pride!! Bellew couldn't even finish him with a flurry of punches, hard punches, he wasn't letting up. Strange from someone who had broke their hand. Anyway. If you watch closely when Haye goes through the ropes in the 11th round it was more to do with the injury than the punches from Bellew themself, he couldn't sustain the position he was in from trying to slip the punches and his leg gave way from supporting his weight.
I hope there is another fight between them and fingers crossed no injuries, no ifs or buts and then we'll see for sure.
Fact is Joshua smashes either of them.......
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