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Old Aug 29, 2018 | 07:46 AM
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My Haywood and Scott is very loud, my mechanic fitted two inline resonators at the mid section which cured it massively. I'm twin scroll too so that helps keeping the neighbours happy (no boom burble).
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Old Aug 29, 2018 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Rob Day
My Haywood and Scott is very loud, my mechanic fitted two inline resonators at the mid section which cured it massively. I'm twin scroll too so that helps keeping the neighbours happy (no boom burble).
if i did the same , when the big Prodrive box went back on it would be really quiet.

Are resonators/silencers restrictive at all ? Or do they just disperse the sound? Just wondering if i have to fit a silencer on the pipe somewhere where i have to leave it fitted when box goes back on will it massively affect flow/performance. I suppose there was a resonator fitted before i chopped it out but I'm thinking of maybe squeezing a silencer in its place instead. Not sure if there's a flow difference.
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Old Aug 29, 2018 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by CharlySkunkWeed
if i did the same , when the big Prodrive box went back on it would be really quiet.

Are resonators/silencers restrictive at all ? Or do they just disperse the sound? Just wondering if i have to fit a silencer on the pipe somewhere where i have to leave it fitted when box goes back on will it massively affect flow/performance. I suppose there was a resonator fitted before i chopped it out but I'm thinking of maybe squeezing a silencer in its place instead. Not sure if there's a flow difference.
I'll be honest - I don't know how a resonator works for sure (have a basic idea), however I asked the same question, a) would it restrict the flow, b) would I loose power, and c) will it handle track abuse with ALS etc.... The answer was a) no, b) no, c) yes.

I'm 3" all the way to the H&S rear pipes where it goes 2.5". Before the resonators were fitted it was Nur Spec loud - and I mean ears bleeding loud, yet on full chat it sounded really nice but too much for every day use! Fitted the two inline resonators and it probably perfect now, and as said before it probably helps that I'm twin scroll so its smoother and less deafening with the boxer beating down in the cabin. I'm going back at some point for a further remap (pretty close to 500bhp now) and I have no issues with the flow through the 3" that tapers to 2 x 2.5" with inline resonators - Hope this helps bud!

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Old Aug 29, 2018 | 09:02 AM
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I have a video somewhere of it on full chat prior to the resonators being fit if you want me to upload it for you?

Here it is with the resonators fitted when the engine was put back together, just a boring first start video.

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Old Aug 29, 2018 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Rob Day
I'll be honest - I don't know how a resonator works for sure (have a basic idea), however I asked the same question, a) would it restrict the flow, b) would I loose power, and c) will it handle track abuse with ALS etc.... The answer was a) no, b) no, c) yes.

I'm 3" all the way to the H&S rear pipes where it goes 2.5". Before the resonators were fitted it was Nur Spec loud - and I mean ears bleeding loud, yet on full chat it sounded really nice but too much for every day use! Fitted the two inline resonators and it probably perfect now, and as said before it probably helps that I'm twin scroll so its smoother and less deafening with the boxer beating down in the cabin. I'm going back at some point for a further remap (pretty close to 500bhp now) and I have no issues with the flow through the 3" that tapers to 2 x 2.5" with inline resonators - Hope this helps bud!

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yeah that helps, at least in the sense that I'll need to put something back on to silence it down. I'm basically going to just have tail pipes. So if i think about it sensibly, I'll make the loud version liveable first , then if i ever fit the Prodrive backbox on it'll be for quiet mode anyway , so the extra silencers will only help.
I only use the car at weekends sensible hours so volume doesn't concern me or any neighbours , but if i need to go to a funeral for example . . . .
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Old Aug 29, 2018 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by CharlySkunkWeed
yeah that helps, at least in the sense that I'll need to put something back on to silence it down. I'm basically going to just have tail pipes. So if i think about it sensibly, I'll make the loud version liveable first , then if i ever fit the Prodrive backbox on it'll be for quiet mode anyway , so the extra silencers will only help.
I only use the car at weekends sensible hours so volume doesn't concern me or any neighbours , but if i need to go to a funeral for example . . . .
Uploaded the vid I mentioned - **** quality as I had to screen grab it for some reason.
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Old Aug 29, 2018 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Rob Day
Uploaded the vid I mentioned - **** quality as I had to screen grab it for some reason.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPvGUm4tIhk
Here's mine when i had the backbox off while fixing a gasket. This is what I'll expect with just tailpipes in its place.

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Old Aug 29, 2018 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by CharlySkunkWeed
Here's mine when i had the backbox off while fixing a gasket. This is what I'll expect with just tailpipes in its place.
I couldn't cope with that, imagine pottering around scaring people, and the drone of it on the motorways..... arghhhh.

Back boxes will make it slightly quieter, but I fear you will want to fit resonators so why not do it straight away and save the pain of doing it twice, and if extreme loud is your thing get a exhaust valve fitted....?

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Old Aug 29, 2018 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Rob Day
I couldn't cope with that, imagine pottering around scaring people, and the drone of it on the motorways..... arghhhh.

Back boxes will make it slightly quieter, but I fear you will want to fit resonators so why not do it straight away and save the pain of doing it twice, and if extreme loud is your thing get a exhaust valve fitted....?

Robert
if i can get something made up , that can be swapped over as easy as changing a wheel, I'll do it. If it's an all or nothing choice of loud as hell or the way it is now , it'll stay the way it is.
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Old Aug 30, 2018 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by CharlySkunkWeed
if i can get something made up , that can be swapped over as easy as changing a wheel, I'll do it. If it's an all or nothing choice of loud as hell or the way it is now , it'll stay the way it is.
just buy the cosworth system and get the downpipe modified for std fit turbo
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Old Sep 1, 2018 | 09:57 PM
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A resonator is a volume around a perforated pipe the same diameter as the external pipework on the system. It is usually packed with rockwool and its function is to allow expansion of the exhaust pulses as they go through. This can take a lot of the unpleasant noise and volume out of the tailpipe noise and lower the booming that can be present in a system that has too small volume in the rear boxes or not enough restriction to muffle the gas as it passes through. It should give no extra back pressure hit... Hope this helps.

My Legacy has a 2 litre engine with a twinscroll turbo - similar to the hatch STi
This is the sound through a Milltek system during a dyno run.


Hope this helps too
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Old Sep 4, 2018 | 11:18 PM
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Had an HKS uprated wastegate actuator and Perrin fpr fitted to my twinscroll today, then mapped by Martyn at Enginetuner. Very happy with how it pushes on now, holding boost
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Old Sep 5, 2018 | 12:10 AM
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Still on a standard cat downpipe, btw.
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Old Sep 5, 2018 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by hedgecutter
Still on a standard cat downpipe, btw.
Decent power is that

Zorst makes quite a difference and the std cat is quite restrictive. Probably why it's dropping off a wee bit early, and the lines aren't quite as flat as they could be. Mine didn't zing till the cats had completely gone
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Old Sep 5, 2018 | 09:07 AM
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Standard cat in these jdms are Tiny
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Old Sep 5, 2018 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by bonesetter
Decent power is that

Zorst makes quite a difference and the std cat is quite restrictive. Probably why it's dropping off a wee bit early, and the lines aren't quite as flat as they could be. Mine didn't zing till the cats had completely gone
What down pipe/system did you opt for?
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Old Sep 8, 2018 | 12:28 AM
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Backbox gone, proper Scooby rumble is back.


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Old Sep 8, 2018 | 09:35 AM
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hi guys, i need a new y pipe silicone hose on the top mounted intercooler as the clip has chaffed it where it fits the turbo,on my hatch, can anyone point me in the right direction where to get one in red as there seems to be plenty about not sure of the correct one.
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Old Sep 8, 2018 | 12:09 PM
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The "Y" pipe on an STi Hatch is a cast item plus a 90 degree silicone bend which when using the OEM perforated clip tends to get chewed up (as you've found out).



I wouldn't ask about the price of a new OEM one (P/N 14462AA354) unless you are sitting down or have very deep pockets

A Samco hose set example here (maybe cheaper elsewhere)
https://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/p...-3-tcs-464-sti



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Old Sep 8, 2018 | 01:03 PM
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many thanks Don, not had the car long still trying to work out whats what.

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Old Sep 17, 2018 | 06:01 PM
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hi guys.my 2009 wrx sti intermitantly idles lumpy and theres a miss at 2000 revs, not burning oil.been remapped with induction kit.its been to a scooby specialist all sensors were running fine at the time.
ive just borrowed a diagnostic tool to do live data( dont understsnd it) my maf reads 0.01 at idle, can you confirm if this correct please, i dont believe it is?
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Old Sep 17, 2018 | 07:54 PM
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From the ECU I/O signal value should be 0.3 - 4.5 at idle

MY09 WRX STI ECU I-O signal values.pdf
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Old Sep 17, 2018 | 08:35 PM
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thanks Don.your a star....excuse my ignorance my reading was in lbs ,is your reply in lbs or volts?
even when im driving it only got to 0.06.lbs

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Old Sep 18, 2018 | 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Machman
thanks Don.your a star....excuse my ignorance my reading was in lbs ,is your reply in lbs or volts?
even when im driving it only got to 0.06.lbs

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If you've looked at the pdf link the signal value is in volts..........................
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Old Sep 18, 2018 | 10:31 AM
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thanks Don .i did look was double checking.cheers
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Old Sep 20, 2018 | 07:05 AM
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who's at rally day this weekend?
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Old Sep 23, 2018 | 08:17 AM
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my hatch and classic rally build at rally day ,,,, weather was crap but good fun as always



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Old Sep 23, 2018 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by domino46
my hatch and classic rally build at rally day ,,,, weather was crap but good fun as always



I was stuck on the M5 watching you all spill out in the rain; hope you had a good day despite the weather
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Old Sep 23, 2018 | 10:57 AM
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Would have been a better day without the rain. I left at 12.30. I’d had enough lol

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Old Sep 23, 2018 | 02:21 PM
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Would have been a better day without the rain. I left at 12.30. I’d had enough lol


car looked really nice mate
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