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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 05:56 PM
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So God is not perfect and omnipotent then? To allow us free will He has allowed evil (Satan) to flourish (to give us the choice of good and evil), and has therefore sacrificed His supposed perfect goodness by so doing. Why would He do this? Being all-knowing He must have foreseen that humans would succumb to temptation. Why test us knowing we would fail?
God is perfectly good and cannot commit sin. He allowed humans freewill so that we would not be automata. If He had programmed us to only do right there could be no meaningful relationship between us and God. How are we to mature as a species if we do not learn from the consequences of our actions?
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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by RAGGY DOO
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Would you not give in bro?? I FVCKIN would


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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
God is perfectly good and cannot commit sin. He allowed humans freewill so that we would not be automata. If He had programmed us to only do right there could be no meaningful relationship between us and God. How are we to mature as a species if we do not learn from the consequences of our actions?
People as yourself will never learn only preach you remind me of that priest in OUTLAWS & ANGELS
I suggest you watch it then get back to me you will suffer the same consequences one day the way your carrying on god forbid
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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 06:09 PM
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Werz TURBOHOT ?
Only one missing out on all the action
Holy ****, don't open that can of worms!!
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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Torquemada
Holy ****, don't open that can of worms!!
Might aswell

Kind of missing her to be honest... hope she's all well
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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Wurzel
JTaylor's dedication to religion is as strong as JackClark's dedication to Appple. Nothing you say can sway them from their argument, could they actually be the same person in drag?
I'm not dedicated to religion, but I am a radical Jesus follower.
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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ZANY
Might aswell

Kind of missing her to be honest... hope she's all well
I guess, go all in

Why not merge the Trump travel ban thread with this one and get really adventurous

And, yes, forgot to say, I thought she was mad as a box of frogs but Swati was a breath of fresh air sometimes, for sure.

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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
I'm not dedicated to religion, but I am a radical Jesus follower.
“Radicalization (or radicalisation) is a process by which an individual, or group comes to adopt increasingly extreme political, social, or religious ideals and aspirations that reject or undermine the status quo or undermine contemporary ideas and expressions of the nation.”

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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Peedee
“Radicalization (or radicalisation) is a process by which an individual, or group comes to adopt increasingly extreme political, social, or religious ideals and aspirations that reject or undermine the status quo or undermine contemporary ideas and expressions of the nation.”

By a friend of mine:

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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 06:49 PM
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Well, I’ll take my references and information from official, recognised sources......

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dic...radicalization

But you carry on posting up videos that your mate Dave makes in his bedroom. .
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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Torquemada
I guess, go all in

Why not merge the Trump travel ban thread with this one and get really adventurous

And, yes, forgot to say, I thought she was mad as a box of frogs but Swati was a breath of fresh air sometimes, for sure.
All good entertainment
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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Peedee
Well, I’ll take my references and information from official, recognised sources......

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dic...radicalization

But you carry on posting up videos that your mate Dave makes in his bedroom. .
Radical and radicalise are different words. And his name's Glen.
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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 06:52 PM
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And his name's Glen.
Raaaas I detect humour in the air
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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 07:12 PM
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Sure to make the winter nights fly by......
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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by RAGGY DOO
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Well done, you're almost reading quickly enough to keep up.
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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 08:03 PM
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For once I agree with everything you said on the thread you and peedee never tought I’d say it
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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ZANY
Would you not give in bro?? I FVCKIN would


MY GOD I WOULD....................
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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 08:26 PM
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MY GOD I WOULD....................
Would you still if IT had a **** up the frock come on be honest
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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 08:27 PM
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Savage that zany
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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 08:27 PM
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Sorry had to do that to pop the bubbles don't want anyone SINNING over it
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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by RAGGY DOO
Savage that zany
See much better at the gym don't do nothing for me bro one women man and all that sh!te
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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
God is perfectly good and cannot commit sin. He allowed humans freewill so that we would not be automata. If He had programmed us to only do right there could be no meaningful relationship between us and God. How are we to mature as a species if we do not learn from the consequences of our actions?

This makes no sense. God created us to be as we are: able to love but susceptable to temptation. Fine so far, we could have loved Him in all innocence but no, he laid temptation in our paths via another of His creations, Satan. Satan strayed from the straight and narrow but God made him that way and placed temptation in his path too, and he succumbed. The circle of sin goes around and ends up back with God, who created all and caused all to happen. How could it be otherwise? So when His Son came to Earth to save us it was from God Himself!
A wave of the Godly hand could have sorted all this at source. His mighty angel, Satan, would have been subdued or destroyed, Eve would not have been tempted to eat from the Tree of Knowledge and all would have been well. Perhaps you get my drift.
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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by RAGGY DOO
For once I agree with everything you said on the thread you and peedee never tought I’d say it

I bet you looked like you were chewing a hornet when you wrote that though!
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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 08:51 PM
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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 10:03 PM
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I'm not wading full on into this religion discussion, but this film is kinda cool.

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Old Oct 25, 2017 | 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Paben
This makes no sense. God created us to be as we are: able to love but susceptable to temptation. Fine so far, we could have loved Him in all innocence but no, he laid temptation in our paths via another of His creations, Satan. Satan strayed from the straight and narrow but God made him that way and placed temptation in his path too, and he succumbed. The circle of sin goes around and ends up back with God, who created all and caused all to happen. How could it be otherwise? So when His Son came to Earth to save us it was from God Himself!
A wave of the Godly hand could have sorted all this at source. His mighty angel, Satan, would have been subdued or destroyed, Eve would not have been tempted to eat from the Tree of Knowledge and all would have been well. Perhaps you get my drift.
I've answered this above. If you'd like a full theodicy, might I suggest Augustine or Irenaeus. There is no light without darkness.

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Old Oct 25, 2017 | 07:07 AM
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if there is a god then surely we as car drivers are all going to hell for poisoning the planet he made with the fumes from our cars ???

and if there was a god then id have a GTR by now lol
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Old Oct 25, 2017 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by ZANY
Would you not give in bro?? I FVCKIN would


Where do I sign
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Old Oct 25, 2017 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
I've answered this above. If you'd like a full theodicy, might I suggest Augustine or Irenaeus. There is no light without darkness.

Oh really, where? If you can't explain it without referring me to theologists then you probably don't understand it yourself.

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Old Oct 25, 2017 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by domino46
if there is a god then surely we as car drivers are all going to hell for poisoning the planet he made with the fumes from our cars ???

and if there was a god then id have a GTR by now lol

There's a special hell reserved for drivers of cars with decatted exhausts. They're doomed to drive through flames for all eternity while choking on fumes and pursued by blue lights and sirens. It's in the bible.
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