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Old Mar 8, 2015 | 08:31 PM
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Just been watching it on blueray and what were they thinking with all the American actors? They obviously have no skills in any martial arts and if swaying your arms around wildly wild performing a kick make you a grand master I know quite a few white belts that can audition for these films


Obviously Bruce lee is fantastic but the others. I did martial arts for years black belt trained and fought in thai boxing for years as well but it always makes me laugh when people can't do the art are shown to be good!


Martial arts is like dancing and a good dancer can spot someone who has no dance training similar to martial arts.


The years may of passed but many films try to pass actors off who can't box or have any skills
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Old Mar 8, 2015 | 08:40 PM
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I did Kung Fu for 10 years and i totally idolised Bruce Lee, a lot of the other actors do seem a little wooden compared to him. But remember this was 1977 and no special effects, nowadays special effects could make anyone look like a Grand Master
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it was only really john saxon who wasn,t a martial artist in enter the dragon. most of the american stars were. jim kelly, bob wall, pat johnston and peter archer were all champions or held belts of various degree,s
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It works both ways, chuck Norris for example even though trained and obviously "ard" was IMO poo in martial arts films! Mr lee on the other hand......awsome!
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You should see the modern training absolutely Zero form, lax punching, kicks like they're just swinging their legs, my son is 7 yrs old and he can kick higher than everyone in the school, I **** you not.

It took me 10yrs to get my black belt now they give them away like sweets inside 3/4 yrs I'm not in training and I could still kick the asses of all the black belts in his school some of them are supposedly 3rd dan and and can't kick to head height.

My son is junior black belt and on his 3rd senior belt and his form is p!ss poor too, something I have to sort out for him but don't want to do it while he's still young.

Standards have seriously slipped since the 70's and 80's when I was full time, it's like line dancing now.

Seems the same all over the world though, brother in law in America thinks he and his mrs are Black belts, they wouldn't be yellow in the dojo I trained at.

They give them the belts just for remembering the kata, nothing to do with good stance, punching, no snap in the kicks nothing just crap and it seems to run all the way to the top belts, I'm not impressed.

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One of my favourite films. Released in 1973 btw.
Ahna Capri who played Roper's mistress (lady of the night, sex pest, whatever) died in a car accident back in 2010. Tragic really. She was pretty hot on ETD.
I really wanted a copy of the 40th anniversary edition Blu-ray which was released in the US a couple of years ago but for some reason there was no such UK release.

I was such a fan of Bruce when I was a kid. Back in July 20th 2013 I dressed in a mandarin and put on some fake blood showing the iconic claw marks down my face and spent the day with mates getting pished in Chinatown, B'ham. This day was the 40th anniversary if his death.
On the same day the EDL were marching around brum and there were loads of them on the return train. I thought I may get trouble dressing in an oriental costume but fortunately they were ok.
Anyway, that's my BL waffle for now. Eeeeeeee yaaaaaa!!

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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
You should see the modern training absolutely Zero form, lax punching, kicks like they're just swinging their legs, my son is 7 yrs old and he can kick higher than everyone in the school, I **** you not.

It took me 10yrs to get my black belt now they give them away like sweets inside 3/4 yrs I'm not in training and I could still kick the asses of all the black belts in his school some of them are supposedly 3rd dan and and can't kick to head height.

My son is junior black belt and on his 3rd senior belt and his form is p!ss poor too, something I have to sort out for him but don't want to do it while he's still young.

Standards have seriously slipped since the 70's and 80's when I was full time, it's like line dancing now.

Seems the same all over the world though, brother in law in America thinks he and his mrs are Black belts, they wouldn't be yellow in the dojo I trained at.

They give them the belts just for remembering the kata, nothing to do with good stance, punching, no snap in the kicks nothing just crap and it seems to run all the way to the top belts, I'm not impressed.
Same here.I did my training many years ago as well.
If someone was showing ineffective & poor technique he would say:
'If a 16 stone pissed up Irish navvy was attacking you how long do you think you would last?'
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Tried the whole karate thing about 25yrs ago, did not have the patience for it.
So joined my local boxing gym instead,(when I was 16)fitted right in and loved everything from the workouts to the sparring, did around 10years on and off.
Had a few fight nights in dorsets working men clubs too, was a buzz and real sense of achievement for all the hard work and training put in.
Later in life took up Muay Thai.

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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
You should see the modern training absolutely Zero form, lax punching, kicks like they're just swinging their legs, my son is 7 yrs old and he can kick higher than everyone in the school, I **** you not.

It took me 10yrs to get my black belt now they give them away like sweets inside 3/4 yrs I'm not in training and I could still kick the asses of all the black belts in his school some of them are supposedly 3rd dan and and can't kick to head height.

My son is junior black belt and on his 3rd senior belt and his form is p!ss poor too, something I have to sort out for him but don't want to do it while he's still young.

Standards have seriously slipped since the 70's and 80's when I was full time, it's like line dancing now.

Seems the same all over the world though, brother in law in America thinks he and his mrs are Black belts, they wouldn't be yellow in the dojo I trained at.

They give them the belts just for remembering the kata, nothing to do with good stance, punching, no snap in the kicks nothing just crap and it seems to run all the way to the top belts, I'm not impressed.


depends who you train under....http://www.tiska.com/
My two train under Sensai Gursharan Sahota, 7th Dan who is their instructor.
It will take them 5 1/2 - 6 years to get to 1st Dan (black belt) assuming they grade each time which they have done until where they are 2nd KYU (Brown/white tag). Not all clubs are the same nor should they be tarred with the same brush . My two train 4 times a week in the Dojo and at home with me as well. when they earn their 1st Dan it will be through determination and hard work, not just for turning up at gradings. They hold/held 7 national titles between them for kata and Kumate.

Personally i chose a club that does not do 'junior' black belts for my two, my two will become fully fledged black belts involving the same gradings and tests as the adults then move further up once this milestone is passed.

the basics have to be taught and drilled in from day 1, poor stances are the root of all things bad when it comes to martial arts, they are the foundation on which you build. Personally i think it good to allow young kids to get a few belts and some confidence under their belts to begin with but as they progress they need to understand that it is more than turning up and expecting to get on. its a fine balance some clubs get right and other simply fail at.

This weekend they will be attending a Bassai Dai course

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Originally Posted by The Zohan
depends who you train under....http://www.tiska.com/
My two train under Sensai Gursharan Sahota, 7th Dan who is their instructor.
It will take them 5 1/2 - 6 years to get to 1st Dan (black belt) assuming they grade each time which they have done until where they are 2nd KYU (Brown/white tag). Not all clubs are the same nor should they be tarred with the same brush . My two train 4 times a week in the Dojo and at home with me as well. when they earn their 1st Dan it will be through determination and hard work, not just for turning up at gradings. They hold/held 7 national titles between them for kata and Kumate.

the basics have to be taught and drilled in from day 1, poor stances are the root of all things bad when it comes to martial arts, they are the foundation on which you build. Personally i think it good to allow young kids to get a few belts and some confidence under their belts to begin with but as they progress they need to understand that it is more than turning up and expecting to get on. its a fine balance some clubs get right and other simply fail at.

This weekend they will be attending a Bassai Dai course Bassai Dai - Shotokan Karate - YouTube
I did Shotokan but my son does Teakwondo, it's a good "Club" with nice people running it, which was important to get him into it and keep him interested, as he was only 4yrs old when I started him and was concerned he might be put off if it was too regimented.

Now he's really into it and loves going I can sort the rest out and move his training forward, he's seven now and gets it a little bit more, I can fix his technique and teach him a few things, he's a lot more delicate than I was so needs careful handling and the last thing I wanted to do was have him put off and pressure his mum into quitting, which she would let him as she doesn't get the whole being able to take care of yourself thing, But I have put my foot down and said it's the one thing that's not negotiable, she has just started as well.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sjtv...ature=youtu.be
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Sloppy, needs to keep her guard up.
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just warming up. These were to analyse technique, so not full speed hence balance and lowering of arms required to keep balance . She stands just under 4'9" and can just kick me in the ear with the side snap kick and i am 6'.

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Well since it was for the purpose of analysis here's my tips.

Guard up at all times, that means left fist at temple hight, right fist in line with chin / shoulder, elbows in nice and tight to the ribs, then when she does a right jab the movement is almost invisible until it makes contact.

Forget the bouncing around it's no good for balance and power, side to side stepping changing from right to left front forward stance minimum shoulder width apart in a sort of circular advancing movement, keeps her in a firm stance and opponent always on the back foot, saves energy and is intimidating.

Kicking;
Knee up and through the body line then extend, much better for power, accuracy and close quarters head kicks than swinging. No dipping the body to get the kick high as a good opponent will step under and to the side then launch her face with a front kick or my personal favourite kick in the *** crack even more so with arms flaying and no eye contact, "Never take your eyes off your opponent"

Front kicks, Knee should come up to shoulder height first then extend, no tip toeing foot should be flat on floor, much better to kick low and hard than high and floppy.

Someone bounces around kicks high but on tip toes has no power it's just the weight of the leg, you can put your hands up and walk into the kick and easily push them over, also very easy to leg block while they are kicking before their foot even gets above knee height, then they're off balance get out of breath quickly (wasted energy bouncing) and basically ripe for picking off, also bringing the knee up first means you can go high or low (leg break) with the kick.

Put these few points into her training and she will be able to give you a hard time and put fear into any opponent, it's all in the mind, couple of good well placed hard strikes and the psychological battle is won.

I always find it strange how someone learns Karate and then starts bouncing around, Karate's base is firm stance perfect technique, clean measured powerful strikes, not boping around the dance floor like a punk doing the pogo.

Use the style it is very effective when applied properly.

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I'll bear this in mind
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Has anybody ever posted about something that dychmyster has never done...
A regular hero....or fantasist.
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Some of us had a life before the internet, I could tell you lots more stories but you'd never believe them, and I might have to kill you after.
No.doubt it's about a 2.1 stroker or the time you were president or the race car rover...
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I did karate as a lad, it was very disciplined, but let's be honest if it came down to a scrap Karate is pretty useless.
My lad does Kung fu, and it's more for fun than discipline. That said he has lightning reactions into very useful blocks, not like technical, useless blocks like in karate. We skip gradings, as they are easily given out and he'd be a black belt again in no time.
He uses knives, nun-chucks and poles to a good degree. But modern day kids don't seem to be taught to be competitive.

My 2 nephews have an aunt/uncle that teach kickboxing. They have both been going since they were 4 and although they can do high kicks etc I wouldn't say they were 'harder' than my lad.
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My guess is 90+ percent of 'learned technique is totally useless to most people in a real life violent situation.I say that even though I did boxing .Karate & Korean martial arts. If you haven't got that killer instinct your going to panic & forget it all in a real fight.

I remember when us gang of horrible little herberts from a large south london housing estate used to go to the local youth club in out teens.There was a boxing club in the hall.We used to stand nearby taking the p*ss out of the guys in the ring as we were complete **** heads.

So,one day the star boxer,who was the son of one of the trainers was in the ring taking our abuse & his dad said:
'I would like to see how long one of you lot last if you got in the ring with him.'

Queue for us to select the smallest & skinniest of our group to volunteer to get on the ring & don the gloves.

30 seconds later the trainer was in the ring dragging our boy off his son who had been battered all round the ring shouting 'Get him off,get him off.He's an animal!!!'

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One thing I will say is, you can train as much as you like but it won't make you a good fighter.

There is something inside a person that can fight that no amount of training can beat, as with so many things in life, you either have it or you don't.
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
Well since it was for the purpose of analysis here's my tips.

Guard up at all times, that means left fist at temple hight, right fist in line with chin / shoulder, elbows in nice and tight to the ribs, then when she does a right jab the movement is almost invisible until it makes contact.

Forget the bouncing around it's no good for balance and power, side to side stepping changing from right to left front forward stance minimum shoulder width apart in a sort of circular advancing movement, keeps her in a firm stance and opponent always on the back foot, saves energy and is intimidating.

Kicking;
Knee up and through the body line then extend, much better for power, accuracy and close quarters head kicks than swinging. No dipping the body to get the kick high as a good opponent will step under and to the side then launch her face with a front kick or my personal favourite kick in the *** crack even more so with arms flaying and no eye contact, "Never take your eyes off your opponent"

Front kicks, Knee should come up to shoulder height first then extend, no tip toeing foot should be flat on floor, much better to kick low and hard than high and floppy.

Someone bounces around kicks high but on tip toes has no power it's just the weight of the leg, you can put your hands up and walk into the kick and easily push them over, also very easy to leg block while they are kicking before their foot even gets above knee height, then they're off balance get out of breath quickly (wasted energy bouncing) and basically ripe for picking off, also bringing the knee up first means you can go high or low (leg break) with the kick.

Put these few points into her training and she will be able to give you a hard time and put fear into any opponent, it's all in the mind, couple of good well placed hard strikes and the psychological battle is won.

I always find it strange how someone learns Karate and then starts bouncing around, Karate's base is firm stance perfect technique, clean measured powerful strikes, not boping around the dance floor like a punk doing the pogo.

Use the style it is very effective when applied properly.
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P.S;

Learned technique can be useful, I have done a few different styles over the years, which currently total 41, I started at seven and my best years were training with other dis-illusioned martial artists developing a style that worked in real life situations.

Martial arts builds confidence and assertiveness, both of which are qualities that will reduce the possibility of a person becoming a victim.

There is nothing like feeling as though you can take care of yourself to boost confidence, regardless of how good one actually is, that part is relative to who you are dealing with.
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It's all well and good when fighting someone of the same style that is "Playing by the rules" but what you gona do when nobody told your opponent what the rules are.

Oh and if you actually knew anything worthwhile about the subject you'd know what I'm saying is correct.

She's all over the place and would get taken out badly by anyone that knows what they are doing, just because your big doesn't make you bad.

Martial arts is a great leveler, I spent a large part of my life defending myself against people that thought they could fight because they were big, but the reality is they never came up against someone that could and wasn't afraid of their size, which is actually a big dis-advantage.

It's the same principal of the 6 stone weakling that get's picked on at school so he goes to the gym for 5/10 years and gets loads of muscle, does he suddenly become a bad *** because he weighs 12 /14 stone and is pure muscle or is he still the same 6 stone ***** inside, you decide.

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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
It's all well and good when fighting someone of the same style that is "Playing by the rules" but what you gona do when nobody told your opponent what the rules are.

Oh and if you actually knew anything worthwhile about the subject you'd know what I'm saying is correct.

She's all over the place and would get taken out badly by anyone that knows what they are doing, just because your big doesn't make you bad.

Martial arts is a great leveler, I spent a large part of my life defending myself against people that thought they could fight because they were big, but the reality is they never came up against someone that could and wasn't afraid of their size, which is actually a big dis-advantage.

It's the same principal of the 6 stone weakling that get's picked on at school so he goes to the gym for 5/10 years and gets loads of muscle, does he suddenly become a bad *** because he weighs 12 /14 stone and is pure muscle or is he still the same 6 stone ***** inside, you decide.
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