JamieR

I've just fitted a Clifford Concept 600 to my MY00 that came with the immob but without the alarm (since it's a UK spec import).

I have locking wheel nuts fitted.

I also have a DiskLok for when I leave it somewhere dodgy.

Should I think about anything else - etched glass, visible VIN, more immobilisation, a tranny lock, one of those cool flame throwers?

Thanks,

Jamie

AWD

Flamethrower, AutoTazer, Rottweiler and James Bond exploding car alarm should do the trick.

Stuart H

You could think about MicroDot. Had mine done a couple of months ago, speak to Halfords, they'll put you right.

Autotaser is also a good idea, see this:

AWD

Stuart H

What's Microdot?

Chris L

AWD

Microdot is as the name suggests a system of small dots that you place all over the car. The dots contain a serial number that can be read with a special detector. The dots are virtually invisible and the idea is to spread them over the whole car. It can then be used to trace parts if a car is stolen and then broken up. It's been used on motorbikes for some time.

As Stuart says, goto Halfords - kit will cost you about 30 quid.

Chris

AWD

Do many car dealers etc. check for Microdots before buying a car (and selling it on)?

Can they be read from afar? I mean if a vehicle with Microdots goes past a certain point (e.g. a fgerry terminal gate) can this trigger an alarm?

I'm trying to understand how a passive deterrant like this would be used to full effect.

So is it like a more advanced (and invisible) form of etching registration numbers on vehicle parts?

SCOTTY

I have an AutoTazer for sale if you are interested.

IWatkins

AWD,

I think it is actually called AlphaDot. It comes in a small dispenser with which you brush these microdots onto as many parts of the car and fittings as you can. Half the dots have a unique number on them, the other half glow in UV light (or something). Stick them all over the place, stereo, electronics, wheels, bonnets etc.

Once you have done this, you then stick the "I have AlphaDot'ed My car" stickers on the car.

You then fill in a form that came with the kit and send it off. From now on, that unique number is yours.

Now, if some toe-rag thinks of nicking your car to break for parts, they may think again. If they do nick it and the parts come into the hands of the police, they can return the parts to you. This is a good idea for stereos etc. too.

Yes, only a passive deterrent, but better than nothing and is only 30 quid. And you get some cool stickers

More stuff here:

JamieR

Thanks for the comments, everyone.

Sounds like the Alphadot is in the same category as etching - a passive deterrent, but worth doing since it's so cheap.

The Autotazer looks good, but I think I'll stick with my Disklok for the moment. (Cheers Scotty).

I was also thinking about a Tracker device, but I want to concentrate on immobilization - once it's driven away, I don't think I'd want it back. Aynway, can't see the Police (in N. Ireland) catching it in their Mondeos.

The Clifford fitter said I could always go for another wireless fuelguard unit.

Wouldn't it be nice if the alarm could phone or send an email if it detects trouble? I've seen some US systems that do this.

Jamie

AWD

Ian

Thanks for the info on the Alphadot thing. Sounds pretty good.


JamieR

There are tracker type alarms currently available that do phone you when the car is nicked. Trackers can also reduce your insurance premium in some cases. There are other trackers available that can switch the car off (with thief in it), lock him or her in, and then ring the police.

Mossman

The Tazer device is pants from what I heard, There have been a number of threads before covering it's use and apparently it is a doddle to get off and the stun is not so bad!

Cheers,

JM

SCOTTY

Ahhh Mr Mossman. Maybe you should pay me a visit this week and try it out in front of the lads then...

Don't be shy We're gonna watch you fry

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JamieR

Scotty,

What's it like? Is it a real blast - as bad as a 230 volt jolt?

Jamie

SCOTTY

It gives a good hard shock, I cannot hold on to it and most people I ask to have a go on it (for fun ) run a mile and will not touch it. So I guess it is a pretty good deterrent.

It's also for sale! Check out the privates - oo err!

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AWD

Scotty

Do you still get a shock if you handle it with rubber gloves on? Other people have written saying that gloves might render the Tazer useless, but as you actually own one I thought you might be able to give me a definitive answer.

What I've read before is that with gloves on you can cut the wheel and get it off (unlike a Disklok).

SCOTTY

Hi AWD,

I have thought about trying that but not got round to it yet.

I will give it a try tomorrow, as I need new batteries, and will let you know.

Scotty.

AWD

Scotty

Don't forget to go to the toilet before you attempt the experiment.... just in case

SCOTTY

BOLLOCKS!!!

Well I tried it with a rubber on

Two rubber gloves actually - oo err

And...

The robbin' f#@=ing tw^@}#g shop that sold me it never said burglers with rubber gloves can hold it to yank it off (OOO-ERRR ) and then steal your precious SCOOB!!!!!

*****!

I wish I'd have asked first.

Scotty.

Ps: If anyone wants to buy it see privates. It'll make a great novalty - see who can keep their tounge on the longest - at a party

AWD

Scotty

Could you feel anything through the rubber gloves?

SCOTTY

AWD,

I could feel the sparks hitting my Marigolds but no shock, not even a tingly feeling

Scotty.

AWD

Scotty

Sorry to hear it mate. Get some ads out in the newspapers and get rid of it. How much do they cost?

SCOTTY

Hi AWD,

The ads are about £20.

It'd suit some kid with a Nova. It also goes through batteries (£10-12 a set) like a Scoob goes through petrol.



Scotty.

simes

Jamie,

back on thread, have you had a look at the Barrier deadlock?

Cheers

Simon

JamieR

Simon,

Yes, the barrier deadlock looks like a great idea, but they want to fit it on site since there's "some welding" required. Apparently this doesn't affect the warranty, but they are currently testing a new version that can be fitted much more easily. Must give them another call. As to wether it is actually any good or not, I've no idea...

Jamie

RSgraham

Jamie, basically, do ANYTHING that will slow the th!eving ***** down, I use 2 alarms, several mechanical immobilisers, hidden kill switches, I've been know to put blown fuses in the fuse box in place of good ones too. really, do ANYTHING, when you park, turn the sterring wheel a bit, so the car can't be pushed onto a towing donkey etc.

hope this helps

cheeRS graham

Rum*

I've got Barrier Lock fitted to the P1.

Its OK - visual deterant as well as physical. The manufacturers say that unless the tea leaf gets your car on a ramp and then uses cutting gear, there is no way of bypassing it??!! Its also Thatcham approved.

Mine appears to work in either 1st or reverse gear (tho manufacturer stresses that reverse is the right place. Its easy to activate and equally easy to deactivate.

The barrel lock is fitted into the gears, with the key socket sitting next to the gear ****/stick on the passenger side.

You also get a couple of nice little stickers to add to the windows.

Only problem I have had is the girlfriend has a tendancy to put it in 1st gear...then when she returns to the car after doing her shopping, she drops the clutch, starts the engine, releases the clutch and sets off.... then finds that she can't change gear!!!!! Nightmare!!

All in all tho I think its an excellent bit of kit - at circa £300.00 I think.

Cheers Tom

AWD

Graham

That sounds pretty extreme.

Did you had many cars nicked before resorting to such security measures, or have you always been this cautious?

Butty

iTrader: (2)

Anyone tried the quick release steering wheels? Any comments?

sunilp

Its great unless you want to use airbags but where do u put it when your not at home, leaving it in the boot doesnt do enough!

PeteT

can a car with a barrier deadlock be towed away if someone sits in it with their foot on the clutch?