Notices
ScoobyNet General General Subaru Discussion

Which Impreza to go for? Noob question

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 15, 2013 | 10:04 PM
  #1  
iain85's Avatar
iain85
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 109
Likes: 0
From: Kent
Default Which Impreza to go for? Noob question

Hi all,

Now I am older I can finally afford to insure a Suburu impreza that I've been after for as long as I can remember!
So I really like the blob eye version the most so will be after one of those. I'm looking around 3-4k but may extend for the right car.
I am looking for a fast road car that is reliable and won't mind a few track days. Also may be used for the wife to take to work if the weather is bad. What is the real world fuel consumption like?
Also what is the difference between wrx and sti models? And which one should I be looking for according to my aforementioned requirements?
I really want to get a decent one so won't rush out and buy the first one I see like I did when I was younger with a RS turbo escort that turned out to have a blown motor!

Any help would be gratfully appreciated. I'm from East Kent so if any local meets are going on I will try and get across to say hi!
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2013 | 10:11 PM
  #2  
Turbotits's Avatar
Turbotits
Scooby Regular
20 Year Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 4,312
Likes: 0
From: Hertfordshire
Default

Real world mpg is around 20mpg and can get much lower if driven hard. You really need to drive both models and decide what suits you best. If your going to modify then start with an sti. The sti in standard form has more power than the wrx. Bigger brakes,harder suspension and a 6 speed box to name just a few differences. Both are very capable cars.
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2013 | 10:12 PM
  #3  
MattyB1983's Avatar
MattyB1983
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (51)
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 12,716
Likes: 46
From: Around
Default

With that budget your looking at a wrx. Maybe an early car with nice miles and spec or older car with higher miles. The difference between the wrx and sti really is night and day but as you'd expect, sti's make quite a bit more money.
Fuel wise, 25ish. Maybe a touch more if you drive like a fairy.

In my honest opinion, save up for a bit longer and get yourself an sti. For what you want it'll be better hands down. Better brakes, much stronger box, much stronger engine, firmer suspension and generally a nicer place to sit.
If you wanted a fast daily then its a wrx everytime but in your case, you've got sti written all over you.
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2013 | 10:55 PM
  #4  
iain85's Avatar
iain85
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 109
Likes: 0
From: Kent
Default

Thanks for the quick replys. How much more money is the Sti over the comparably aged wrx? It's hard to get test drives I'd imagine as I don't want to waste anyone's time to just try their car without the solid intention to buy. I won't drive it crazily around town so as long as its not south of 20 mpg swmbo won't kill me : ). Are the service intervals comparable between the models? Cheere again
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2013 | 10:56 PM
  #5  
iain85's Avatar
iain85
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 109
Likes: 0
From: Kent
Default

Sorry meant add, I won't modify massively but would remap if it's worth it?
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2013 | 07:49 AM
  #6  
ditchmyster's Avatar
ditchmyster
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 13,624
Likes: 7
From: Living the dream
Default

As you mentioned track days then really you want an STI, half decent ones start at around the £6k mark for a blobeye, they can be had cheaper but if it's not been well looked after then the bills tot up very quickly, as in tyres ish £400, cambelt service £500, brakes depending what's requires £150/500, full fluid change £200 ish.

I'm not trying to scare you off, just making the point that a £5.5k car can become a £7k car over night, and that's presuming nothing is actually wrong with it, also if it's not tip top when you buy it then it's probably not had regular oil changes either and god knows what fuel has gone through it.

So what i'm getting at is, it's worth paying a slight premium for an enthusiast owned well maintained car, because if that list above sounds expensive wait till rebuild time.

Personally, I prefer the Blob WRX as a road car, but that's just me.
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2013 | 04:12 PM
  #7  
big_wasa's Avatar
big_wasa
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 114
Likes: 0
From: Spalding
Default

The sti is double the price of the wrx but the difference in price will only buy you half of the sti upgrade bits.
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2013 | 05:12 PM
  #8  
iain85's Avatar
iain85
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 109
Likes: 0
From: Kent
Default Too short

I see what you mean. I will probably get whatever car inspected by a suburu mechanic so I can reduce the potential of buying a lemon. But thanks for rhe heads up.
With regards the track days I would imagine that they will be few and far between so would it still stand correct that the Sti premium is worth paying?

Also would you reccomend any dealers in the south east preferably who deal in decent imprezas ? I reckon 6k will be pushing it for me personally so I may well have to stick with the Wrx. Thanks for the help so far people. I'm determined not to rush in and get stung some with your help on this forum I will hopefully become a happy impreza owner ! Are there any links on here or other sites that would be worth my while reading up on? I've already had a read of the 2.5 litre engine problem thread which has instantly put me off a later car
Personally, I prefer the Blob WRX as a road car, but that's just me.[/QUOTE]

Last edited by iain85; Jun 16, 2013 at 08:24 PM.
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2013 | 08:26 PM
  #9  
iain85's Avatar
iain85
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 109
Likes: 0
From: Kent
Default

Any opinions on these Wrx's?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2003-Subar...item27d36120f3

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Subaru-Imp...item2a2d302dfd
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2013 | 08:48 PM
  #10  
Justme103's Avatar
Justme103
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 726
Likes: 0
From: Manchester
Default

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2212402564...84.m1555.l2649
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2013 | 09:06 PM
  #11  
iain85's Avatar
iain85
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 109
Likes: 0
From: Kent
Default

Looks nice and looked after but a little on the high side milage wise for me.
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2013 | 09:11 PM
  #12  
Justme103's Avatar
Justme103
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 726
Likes: 0
From: Manchester
Default

Don't let the mileage put you off, The services history with it is unreal, Full service booked stamped by dealers & Scoobyteknix
Every invoice & MOT paper for every thing that's ever been done to it
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2013 | 09:18 PM
  #13  
iain85's Avatar
iain85
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 109
Likes: 0
From: Kent
Default

Ok this is a Sti from Clive's Performance on pistonheads. Any feedback on this one? Does look cracking except for the roof vent. Any one heard of Clive's performance ?

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifie...ge-ppp/1304311
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2013 | 10:00 PM
  #14  
BoozyDave's Avatar
BoozyDave
Scooby Regular
15 Year Member
Liked
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,208
Likes: 3
From: Rotherham - ENGLAND
Default

it might have loads of paperwork, but it's still a wrx that just looks like an sti and priced like an sti, so just buy an sti!

sti looks and price, but not all the sti parts fitted. over priced for a wrx
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2013 | 10:35 PM
  #15  
MattyB1983's Avatar
MattyB1983
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (51)
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 12,716
Likes: 46
From: Around
Default

Originally Posted by iain85
Ok this is a Sti from Clive's Performance on pistonheads. Any feedback on this one? Does look cracking except for the roof vent. Any one heard of Clive's performance ?

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifie...ge-ppp/1304311
That's a bug eye, thought you wanted a blob ??

Having said that, I'd take a bug sti over a blob wrx everyday of the week. Still has all the good bits that a blob sti has and with a few little tweaks they can look nice.
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2013 | 10:37 PM
  #16  
Justme103's Avatar
Justme103
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 726
Likes: 0
From: Manchester
Default

Originally Posted by boozydave
it might have loads of paperwork, but it's still a wrx that just looks like an sti and priced like an sti, so just buy an sti!

sti looks and price, but not all the sti parts fitted. over priced for a wrx
Wouldn't say its priced like an STi, The price is up on what it should be but then again I saw a X plate bug WRX on a cat C with same mods finish for £2940
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2013 | 10:44 PM
  #17  
iain85's Avatar
iain85
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 109
Likes: 0
From: Kent
Default

Originally Posted by MattyB1983
That's a bug eye, thought you wanted a blob ??

Having said that, I'd take a bug sti over a blob wrx everyday of the week. Still has all the good bits that a blob sti has and with a few little tweaks they can look nice.
Ah I thought it was the blob? I like the models from 2001 to 2005 which I thought were the blob eyes? /confused
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2013 | 11:12 PM
  #18  
MattyB1983's Avatar
MattyB1983
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (51)
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 12,716
Likes: 46
From: Around
Default

Reply
Old Jun 17, 2013 | 10:24 AM
  #19  
STi boi's Avatar
STi boi
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 66
Likes: 0
Default

You'll struggle to find a blob sti for that price range mate, u looking 6-7k for decent blob sti uk, the Jdm version even more, and if you are a serious scooby fan then save up, hold out and get sti, ur pockets will thank you dwn the line, no point wrx, after a yr or so u'l want sti.
Reply
Old Jun 17, 2013 | 11:26 AM
  #20  
StiX's Avatar
StiX
Scooby Regular
South Wales Scoobys
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 2,293
Likes: 0
From: Bridgend, S Wales
Default

You will also struggle to get over 20mpg around town!
Reply
Old Jun 17, 2013 | 11:42 AM
  #21  
amh82's Avatar
amh82
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 124
Likes: 0
From: Sudbury, Suffolk
Default

For day to day, missus, etc but with good performance when you need it, a bug or blob wrx with some basic tweaks would be ideal imo.

You'll pay more for a decent STi, which is the right choice for big power or a more focused car, but otherwise a WRX will probably be more of an all rounder and good vfm.

A PPP'd or similar WRX has comparable performance to an STi, although you miss out on some of the other STi upgrades. I personally found a standard WRX to be a little slow, but it depends what you are used to I guess.

As for mpg, I used to keep track of mine on Fuelly and I think over 13 fill ups I had an average of around 25mpg, best was just a touch over 30mpg (which was a long run to & from Weymouth). For the performance and AWD I don't think that's too bad really.

Good luck
Reply
Old Jun 17, 2013 | 08:47 PM
  #22  
iain85's Avatar
iain85
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 109
Likes: 0
From: Kent
Default

Thanks all but I'm confused now ! I think I would be better off with a tuned wrx but heart is telling me Sti : /
However I really don't want to spend 6-7k really as I would be Skint. If I go max 4-5k I would have money aside for maintenance.
As for previous cars I currently have the new vrs fabia (180bhp) which is fun and I had a lotus Elise which I regret selling to this day. I envisage the Impreza being my fun transport and for safe commuting for my wife in inclement weather. Are the service requirements different on the wrx vs the Sti? Also according to the reading the wagons are going for less money than the saloon so if this is the case I could be interested in a wagon assuming it doesn't compromise the ability to track it too much.
Reply
Old Jun 17, 2013 | 09:29 PM
  #23  
BoozyDave's Avatar
BoozyDave
Scooby Regular
15 Year Member
Liked
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,208
Likes: 3
From: Rotherham - ENGLAND
Default

i've had a blob wrx for nearly five years and i wouldn't swap for an sti.

i've spent under a grand on a turbo, injectors, big top mount, decat and a remap. now it's got 330 bhp, plenty of power for road use, IMO i can't see the point in having any more power than that

just need to get my brakes upgraded (yes, i know i should have done them before tuning)
Reply
Old Jun 17, 2013 | 09:34 PM
  #24  
iain85's Avatar
iain85
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 109
Likes: 0
From: Kent
Default

Interesting Dave. What year have you got and is it a ppp model?
Reply
Old Jun 17, 2013 | 09:57 PM
  #25  
BoozyDave's Avatar
BoozyDave
Scooby Regular
15 Year Member
Liked
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,208
Likes: 3
From: Rotherham - ENGLAND
Default

it's an 05 reg wrx, PPP ain't worth the extra, unless you're not going to mod it. most people with PPP get them remapped anyway (AFAIK the map is rich) (PPP has sport cat and some other stuff but can't remember)

i wanted the wrx, it can achive the power i wanted and its not as 'hard' as the sti.
Reply
Old Jun 18, 2013 | 07:08 PM
  #26  
iain85's Avatar
iain85
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 109
Likes: 0
From: Kent
Default

Originally Posted by boozydave
it's an 05 reg wrx, PPP ain't worth the extra, unless you're not going to mod it. most people with PPP get them remapped anyway (AFAIK the map is rich) (PPP has sport cat and some other stuff but can't remember)

i wanted the wrx, it can achive the power i wanted and its not as 'hard' as the sti.

Ok cheers, I will start the hunt for a decent Wrx. If any one sees one they think may be decent please post up. I want under 80k preferably. Ta
Reply
Old Jun 18, 2013 | 08:03 PM
  #27  
iain85's Avatar
iain85
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 109
Likes: 0
From: Kent
Default

This has just come on pistonheads? Although the milage is high it has full suburu service history. What do we think? Also is the price a little strong?
Reply
Old Jun 18, 2013 | 08:03 PM
  #28  
iain85's Avatar
iain85
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 109
Likes: 0
From: Kent
Default

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifie...istory/1464933
Reply
Old Jun 18, 2013 | 09:49 PM
  #29  
BoozyDave's Avatar
BoozyDave
Scooby Regular
15 Year Member
Liked
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,208
Likes: 3
From: Rotherham - ENGLAND
Default

i think it's a good price
Reply
Old Jun 18, 2013 | 09:53 PM
  #30  
BigZee87's Avatar
BigZee87
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 283
Likes: 0
From: stratford upon avon
Default

my blob is for sale at the moment as just got a classic type r.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2009337114...ht_1951wt_1193

id let it go for £4500 to fellow scoobynet member
Reply



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 06:10 PM.