Rui brazao

Hi there guys I have recently bought a 2007 wrx sti and in the first two weeks the ringland has gone(just my luck waited 7 years for one). I have 3 months gold warranty with warranty wise which the dealer gave me. Any suggestions what to do next. Do you think the warranty is going to pay £1000 for replacing the piston. Also planning to upgrade to forged pistons whilst the engine is out.

Shaks-STI

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Why dont you call them and ask? Forging is the best route imo

Rui brazao

The car is running 368bhp is just the pistons going to be enough. I just don't want to be paying the £1000+ bill in the future.

Rui brazao

I'm just worried the warranty won't pay out and I'm left with the bill. What options would I have if that was the case?
Wouldn't the sales of goods act come into the consideration. The dealer is a top guy and I love the car but just don't want to get ripped off.

Rescue Dude

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Was it 368 when you bought it?

What does the warranty say about engine failures?

Rui brazao

It was 368 when I bought it warranty says it pays for any engine parts that are in motion. So pistons should be covered. The dealer said that it shouldnt be a problem.

wrx271

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if youve had the car less than i think its 14 days or 30 then just back the car ive been down this route with a so called trader wont mention names but the engine let go or had let go when i brought it needless to say once i took him to court he took the car back its consumer law have a read online

wrx271

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it goes under not fit for purpose which if the engine has let go it isnt full stop case closed dont bend over for any trader

Rui brazao

U don't mind getting it repaired because whilst the engine is out I can pay to get the forged pistons put in out of my own pocket. Hopefully.

Rui brazao

I don't mind sorry

Rui brazao

If I can get it fixed by the warranty then I'm happy to do that but if they don't pay out then the dealer has to pay to get it fixed or money back for me.

wrx271

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basically you stand the high ground just dont forget that

blackhawksti

I had a really similar issue on my 56 plate hawk sti. The headgasket went after a couple days of ownership. The dealer paid for nearly all the work. In one way its almost a good thing this has happened to you, as you can have your engine re-built at someone elses cost. I was lucky because when my engine was opened up, someone had already forged it with cosworth pistons etc which saved me the cost.I also paid for a new clutch myself on top of the work that was being done, as i only paid for the price of the part and no labour, so check your clutch condition at the same time the work is being done.Also consider changing big end bearing whilst engine is out, along with other seals/gaskets etc - you'll only kick yourself later on if you need to do these. Only thing to bare in mind, is it will probably cost in excess of £1000, so bare this in mind when negotating with the warranty/dealership.
Good luck any enjoy the car - it'll be well worth it when its all fixed!

drew25

The fitness for purpose which is section 15 of the sale of goods act 1979 and again in the the sale of goods and services act 1982 will not apply. The warranty that applies to the car will be in relation to a standard car not modified which yours is as it could be easily argued that the components of the engine are not designed for this extra stress. I would agree to pay for a portion of the work making the dealer pay for argument sake 70%. But be ready for a battle with the warranty company.

Alan Jeffery

The issue with the warranty is that it's run by an insurance company. They won't pay out for anything that's fair wear and tear so won't cover things like worn turbo bearings. A ring land breakage is a clearly failed component and they should pay out to the extent of the cover. If you haven't modified the car yourself the cover should pay out on the basis that the cover was offered to you for the condition of the car as you bought it.
I'd always suggest a compromise, and at least after this your 2.5 should have a decent shelf life.

SRSport

Read the terms and conditions very carefully and then read them again. When I claimed I was asked some trick questions designed for me to give them an excuse to not pay. Keep it simple, dont say more than you need to and you should be fine. In my experience dealer warranties are easier to claim against than private warranties, even if its with the same warranty company. This is because the warranty company make good money from dealers and do not want to risk them switching if they are seen as not supporting their customer and giving them a bad name.

Drew, are you sure that it wont cover his car? Usually a warranty that comes with the car will cover just that otherwise whats the point? If you were to modify post sale then the warranty wouldnt apply but Im fairly sure it should in this case, regardless of whats underneath it. Usually they will only replace with standard parts though, so if its a £3000 upgraded turbo that has gone you can only expect the standard Subaru one to be fitted. As I said, read the terms and conditions.

Rui brazao

In going to try the warranty company first and then if that's not successful then the dealership have no choice but to fix it because he has sold me a car not fit for purpose because I've only had the car 3 weeks today.

SRSport

Its wise seeking advice on here but I wouldnt loose to much sleep over it at this stage. As you say you have many options open to you. Follow the correct procedure and let those whose responsibility it is sort it out.

Rui brazao

That's what I thought. As long as they are willing to replace the piston and pay for the labour then I won't mind. Praying that's the case because I just love the car and want it back on the road.

Rui brazao

Thanks guys for the advice I really appreciate it. The best site ever.

chopperman

Forged pistons , i use Mahle powerpak and have the head bolts replaced with 11mm ARP studs. These items fix the 2.5. Subaru gaskets are good but Cosworth stoppers are better.
If the warranty company get funny with you just tell the selling dealer to sort the car out. I had a similar problem and warranty refused to honour even though the car was modded when i bought it. The dealer fixed mine sending the engine to a reputable engine builder. good luck.

Beastie

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Normally you need to report to warranty company within 7 days of problem. Be careful in what you say so you dont breach the conditions of the warranty.

drew25

What you may find is that the dealer (depending if he is reputable or not) may or may not have declared that the car has a modified engine. You may find in the warrenty documentation that there are exclusion clauses that state that the engine must be as it came from the manufacturer (standard) and they will not accept a claim against a modified engine. It is very difficult to say without looking at the wording of the terms and conditions of the warrenty document. I am sure that the dealer will stand over your claim anyway and fix the issue. You may see the first post as being negative but I had a friend that bought a 2.5 sti that had ringland failure within a couple of weeks of purchase. I looked over the documentation for him after the warrenty comapny refused to repair the car as it was a known fault of that type of engine and they said it should have been completed by Subaru. It took 7 months but he got it fixed using upgraded parts.

Rui brazao

Cheers for that. Have u had any problems with the engine since then? I also part exchanged my car so he has no choice but to fix it. I'm going to call the warranty Monday morning. I'm going to see if I can get the work done with powerstation or Jason jones tewksbury any advice on the garages.

Rescue Dude

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What has the dealer/warranty company said they'll do about the engine failure?

Rui brazao

I'm going to wait till Monday and start sorting out everything then. Not to worried but can't believe my luck.

chopperman

No issues with mine since the re-build what so ever. hardly surprising as the dealer at my request instructed Finch motorsport to build the engine. Now running 1.6 bar with a Bob Rawle ecutek map. Its the car now it should have been out the factory. Perfect and a pleasure to drive without the subaru paranoia

Rui brazao

Mine was remapped by Bob Rawle to 368bhp. Hopefully I will feel like you one day. Love subarus so much can't wait to drive it knowing that's its bullet proof.

chopperman

Fingers crossed for you mate. keep your cool, arm yourself with facts. Be nice but firm, nothing is achieved by losing your temper. Be prepared to play the long game. All in all it took me the best part of 4 months to get what i wanted. But i got it without ever raising my voice or swearing.

Rui brazao

Hopefully I can get it done in weeks because the subaru is my only car. I will try my best. Thanks everyone