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Old 24 May 2012, 10:00 PM
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Default 430 it just ain't enough!!!!

I can't believe I'm saying this but the fact is I now feel like I'm driving with about 100bhp.. I didn't want to mod again!!!!
Please when will this stop!!!!!!! :-)
Old 24 May 2012, 10:07 PM
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I know exactly wat you mean.... i think a motor bike is gonna be my next step
Old 24 May 2012, 10:13 PM
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Got one!!! It just ain't the same dude
Old 24 May 2012, 10:13 PM
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Loose a bit of weight from it
Old 24 May 2012, 10:20 PM
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Interesting!!! Like what?? It's only a wk end car but must still carry my one year old son in back
Old 24 May 2012, 10:20 PM
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Try 430 in a classic,,,, entirely different experience.
Old 24 May 2012, 10:20 PM
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Shouda modded a Classic.
Old 24 May 2012, 10:21 PM
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Ha. lol at the tripe posts at the same time.
Old 24 May 2012, 10:24 PM
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Put the scoob in storage for a few months and buy a cheap gutless piece of crap. Once you have driven that for a few months get the scoob back out and it will feel fast again. What you save in fuel will probably pay for the banger lol
Old 24 May 2012, 10:24 PM
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I bet!! But always been in newage (blob) not into classics but that's just my view.
Old 24 May 2012, 10:24 PM
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know what you mean, im 450bhp but saving for rotated gt30 setup

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Old 24 May 2012, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by chopperman
Put the scoob in storage for a few months and buy a cheap gutless piece of crap. Once you have driven that for a few months get the scoob back out and it will feel fast again. What you save in fuel will probably pay for the banger lol
Wifes already got a ka so could do that, but I will want to take it out after a wk I know I will :-)
Old 24 May 2012, 10:27 PM
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You could mod it a bit more but you will eventually get used to that. I know exactly what your going through chap, I'm sort of at that point too.
I've not driven my car for about 3 weeks now and won't do until next weekend. I find that after a few weeks it feels fresh again if that makes sense.
Old 24 May 2012, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by wiley
know what you mean, im 450bhp but saving for rotated gt30 setup

wiley
Whats it cost to go rotated???
Old 24 May 2012, 10:31 PM
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Get some real power at the wheels not gehy estimated crank power.
Old 24 May 2012, 11:09 PM
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Get yourself AlcaTek or Syvecs or any aftermarket ECU and get your car mapped for 20% meth and you should make 480bhp


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Old 24 May 2012, 11:15 PM
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maybe
http://www.rogerclarkmotorsport.co.u...productID=2669


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Old 25 May 2012, 12:05 AM
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Boost/power is addictive iv been there and its cost ££££'s, but if you dont mind forking out go for it mate bigger turbo/injectors re-map etc.. but sometime down the line you will prob think that it is slow again??
Although iv got to admit when i was running 495atw it did feel quick every time just remember with big power come's the mither
Old 25 May 2012, 07:17 AM
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It never stops Craig.

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Old 25 May 2012, 09:29 AM
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As simon says(no pun intended lol)it never stops mate,ive been at 200+, 300+,400+ and now 500+ and i ended up buying a little deisel runabout for a few hundred quid,this costs me £25 a fortnight to run compared to £140 a fortinight running the scoob everyday,plus when i do get back in the scoob it feels incredible to drive and i fall in love with it all over again..win win situation Craig.

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Old 25 May 2012, 09:30 AM
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Don't get me wrong, even at my 'adequate' age the thought of owning a powerful modded car is addictive and at the nudging point of 400 bhp I would love more but - take a step back for a second - what is the real point of all that power on the public roads? How many times do you get the opportunity of using the capabilities of your 480bhp monster on roads shared by the vast majority of people who really have no interest and quite frankly, think you're a total tw*t? And unless you're skilled and experienced in motorsport, you couldn't take advatage of it on track, either!
Let's be honest, it's an ego thing. Nothing much wrong in that but sometimes it's worth re-evaluating what it's really all about?

Like I said, I'm as bad as most on here but I thought I'd try and provoke a little light conversation on the topic.

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Old 25 May 2012, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnD
Don't get me wrong, even at my 'adequate' age the thought of owning a powerful modded car is addictive and at the nudging point of 400 bhp I would love more but - take a step back for a second - what is the real point of all that power on the public roads? How many times do you get the opportunity of using the capabilities of your 480bhp monster on roads shared by the vast majority of people who really have no interest and quite frankly, think you're a total tw*t? And unless you're skilled and experienced in motorsport, you couldn't take advatage of it on track, either!
Let's be honest, it's an ego thing. Nothing much wrong in that but sometimes it's worth re-evaluating what it's really all about?

Like I said, I'm as bad as most on here but I thought I'd try and provoke a little light conversation on the topic.
Circa 480 here. Whatever you've got, you will get used to it and want more! As John D says though; there is a point where it's a all a little redundant for road use. Also, there is a law of diminishing returns with modding: the higher up the modding ladder you go, the more things cost for less return.

The best advice is to drive a normal car for a while and reset your baseline of what constitutes "normal" The scooby will go back to feeling like a rocket ship after that!
Old 25 May 2012, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnD
Don't get me wrong, even at my 'adequate' age the thought of owning a powerful modded car is addictive and at the nudging point of 400 bhp I would love more but - take a step back for a second - what is the real point of all that power on the public roads? How many times do you get the opportunity of using the capabilities of your 480bhp monster on roads shared by the vast majority of people who really have no interest and quite frankly, think you're a total tw*t? And unless you're skilled and experienced in motorsport, you couldn't take advatage of it on track, either!
Let's be honest, it's an ego thing. Nothing much wrong in that but sometimes it's worth re-evaluating what it's really all about?

Like I said, I'm as bad as most on here but I thought I'd try and provoke a little light conversation on the topic.


Great post

Since bumping the power up on my car to over 400 I have found the power less useable. Like you say, it's an ego thing. I wanted to be able to say I had a 400+ classic even though a 300+ is just as much fun in the real world.
99% of the time my boost is set to 1 bar which is ample.
Old 25 May 2012, 10:48 AM
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Try selling it then getting a FN2 CTR like me......Then you'll know what slow feels like
Old 25 May 2012, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster
It never stops Craig.

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Says the boost dealer to the boost junkie
Old 25 May 2012, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by B0DSKI
Try selling it then getting a FN2 CTR like me......Then you'll know what slow feels like
Yes but when you get 40MPG and I get less than 20MPG, you can pass me as I pull in for fuel again.

I think that once you reach an adeqate power level (say 350-400bhp for arguments sake) that what really needs attention is handling and braking, those two should come first but most of the time they are secondary to the pursuit of outright power.

After all, there is no point hooning it down a straight and then having a car that cannot handle the power when going around corners.
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Originally Posted by Aztec Performance Ltd
Says the boost dealer to the boost junkie


Maybe a new business model for Simon, get the first boost for free...
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
Great post

Since bumping the power up on my car to over 400 I have found the power less useable.
Yeah you also get a more laggy car with a higher boost threshold. If you don't get boost till say 5k then it becomes a PITA. I know you could spend a fortune increasing the rev range of the motor but then it's £££££s. This is the prob with small displacement turbo cars on the street.

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Originally Posted by Cannon Fodder
Yes but when you get 40MPG and I get less than 20MPG, you can pass me as I pull in for fuel again.

I think that once you reach an adeqate power level (say 350-400bhp for arguments sake) that what really needs attention is handling and braking, those two should come first but most of the time they are secondary to the pursuit of outright power.

After all, there is no point hooning it down a straight and then having a car that cannot handle the power when going around corners.
Good point Ty.......Still miss that shove in the back though
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Originally Posted by B0DSKI
Good point Ty.......Still miss that shove in the back though


Perhaps you and pslewis can start your own forum?

A lot of owners do sell up and just can't get away from the car, you will be back quicker than you thought...


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