zayd

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Well, Well, Well.
To all those Prodrive doubters, I have conducted 3 test runs to collect data on a real life 0-60mph sprint. My car is a bog standard 2003 WRX PPP, which is well maintained and only run on 99ron fuel. I had extra weight with a passenger, weighing 8 stone, who carried out the timings.

Following 3 runs I achieved a time of 5.1 seconds. Very close to the official stated times. I could have probably got to 4.8 had the passenger not been in the car. It did however indicate that the PPP definately makes a difference to the standard setup of this car.

Saint AAI

Firstly, how were the tests carried out?
Secondly, everyone already knows that the PPP will make the car quicker than standard, I don't think anyone would dispute that.

stealthy55

thirdly the word "probably"! it didnt do 4.8

tony de wonderful

Launch it harder.

tubbytommy

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smell that burning clutch ummmmmmm

-shane-

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I would still remove it from the car, My 2003 Wrx PPP had 243bhp so i removed it and got the car ecutek now running 281bhp, So it that's the figure's with ppp i must be doing 4.5 to 60mph

zayd

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Alright, Alright don't bite my head off. I'm just happy knowing my car is faster than the standard WRX and it also gives me a good indication that I'm getting the right power from a 7 year old car.

bioforger

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How was the timing done, how do you know its accurate?

I never doubted the classic's time of 5.5-6secs

But after owning a newage STi PPP I have always doubted the standard cars time of 4.6s.

zayd

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A stopwatch was used to time the car from a standstill up until it hit 60 on the speedo. For me, It's good enough to know that the car is sub 6 seconds at this stage of its life.

I know that I'm not a professional tester from Prodrive, but it still gives me a decent indication of what power the car is producing.

bioforger

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Yea unfortunately a stopwatch isn't very accurate at all. You could be half a second out quite easily.

And 60 on the speedo isn't actually 60 either. 99% of cars under read by anywhere from 3-6mph. So you would of needed to stop the clock at 65mph really. Either way it's very inaccurate.

techno_brat

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i believe prodrive used second gear with a almost redline launch to get the 4.8, no gear changes etc, and in the sti but the sti still needs a change to third

mikescooby

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i was doing this yestaday. i have a my03 wrx running 280 bhp and at a rugh time of 5.30 - 5.45seconds

daz1968

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anyone know what a jdm sti twinscroll should be.

colapepsi

What a pointless thread, so what if your WRX does it in 6 seconds.

Could not careless if mine does it in 15 seconds.

Brun

^^^^^^
Pointless post????

dazz86uk

mine is 5mph out. went past one of them road signs that tell you your speed was going 30mph but not to them, i was going 25mph. thought it might be the wheels as im running on 15" and my last scoob had 17" and was spot on when went past the speed sign.

Dan W

My girlfriend's fieasta speedo can read 70MPH whilst the sat nav is recording her speed at 62.

andythejock01wrx

I remember when I was 19 I had an argument with one of my pals about the 0-60 time of my then 1.3 Nova SR, with a stupendous 70bhp to it's name. One mag said it was 10.6secs and another said 12.5secs.

We both went out and timed it on his digital watch (they were rather soph then! ). The resultant time was exactly 10.6 secs.

Of course at the time I didn't know how inaccurate speedos can be, plus the human reaction time of using said "digital watch".

Anyway, we agree that PPP makes scoobs faster.

djandyg

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Only real accurate way of timing is via laser timing, lots of events and shows these days will have a 0-60 sprint where you get an accurate time - speedo is likely to be around 4mph out as well.

Either way no one cant say you dont have a quick car tho

daz1968

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only car i have driven and speedo agrees with satnav is the 5 series bm at work. My 03wrx was about 4mph fast. However my current jdm sti is within 2mph at motorway speeds. Thats with 225 tyres on. Might be a bit closer if i had the correct 235 section tyres.

Japorter

You can't prove anything with just 0-60. you need really something like 1/4 mile or at least a 0-100....

the 0-60 difference in real life from a standard WRX and a WRX PPP would really be minimum.... half a sec can't get you no where mate..

tony de wonderful

Agree. It seems to be a British thing to care about 0-60 whilst everyone else ranks cars by the 1/4.

"I live my life a 1/4 mile at a time..."

Norman Dog

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Agreed. Mid range torque is much more important.

tony de wonderful

No it's that 0-60 meaures launch. The 1/4 is a better test of straight line capability.

bigsinky

yes, now if you were doing 0 - 100 in 6 seconds, that would be fast

tony de wonderful

Classic is 4.6 so long as your clutch holds out.

Aztec Performance Ltd

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Stopwatch timing is totally pointless.

This is what you want

bigsinky

and of course you sell them bob scoobynet group buy anyone?

stealthy55

had one for about 3 yrs now every mod i have done i use this to compare "ingear" results, so much better than dynos or the "car stats calculator" 1/4 mile is great but "driver error" happens

Aztec Performance Ltd

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GB

If anyone wants to play with the software to see what it can do, PM me.

In gear is very good and consistant, ideal for seeing real world improvements whilst modifying.

I use 60-130mph and 60-100mph myself.