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Old Jun 23, 2010 | 12:19 PM
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ok itīs your 10 grand...do you buy a p1 or a blobeye sti...
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Old Jun 23, 2010 | 12:27 PM
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Me, a P1. Blob STi's will come down in price quite a lot one day, and don't have the collectability of a P1.
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Old Jun 23, 2010 | 12:28 PM
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If its a daily car then I would get the blob, if its a weekend or a toy then P1.
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Old Jun 23, 2010 | 12:31 PM
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Blobeye STi.. I do like that Classics, and the P1 is a lovely car , but they are now averaging 10 yrs old, plus from what I've read P1 engines go pop unless they've been rebuilt already.
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Old Jun 23, 2010 | 12:40 PM
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You could probably get a Hawkey STi for that sort of money, better looking IMHO, but the engine isn't as strong.

Blobeye JDM STI is the one to go for, no lag & bulletproof with loads of goodies that the Type UK was lacking.
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Old Jun 23, 2010 | 12:43 PM
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An engine only goes pop if it has been abused and poorly maintained, i had my RA for 5 years, it had covered 120k, I bought it with only 28k on the clock's, and the babe is still running today, only thing I had done in that time was brakes and clutch, if I had 10k I would buy a P1 but only use it on weekends, P1 will hold its value allot better, as you can see, u can pick up a WR1 for a little more than 10k, this could be an option.
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Biggi, I'm not saying that Classics go pop. I'm sure I've read on here that P1 engine's have the reputation for going pop cos the map wasnt right or something.. I'm sure someone will keep me right here..
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A Prodrive bugeye STI in black. Mods to late 300s power and torque. Big offset white wheels. Bride seats, takata harnesses.

That is what I would do with Ģ10K.
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A Prodrive bugeye STI in black. Mods to late 300s power and torque. Big offset white wheels. Bride seats, takata harnesses.

That is what I would do with Ģ10K.
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I just bought a MY05 jdm sti for a little under 10k
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Originally Posted by Scooby Wagon Addict!
... the P1 is a lovely car , but they are now averaging 10 yrs old, plus from what I've read P1 engines go pop unless they've been rebuilt already.
I'd get a rebuilt P1 with some choice mods for Ģ10k. Newage STi's are really heavy vs the classics so need much more power just to keep up

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I guess its the p1 itīs gonna hold its value alot better, thanks guys. Only thing is it looks a bit dated now whereas the blob and hawkeyes look fresher IMO, so if i get a p1 and keep it for a few years itīs gonna look even more dated. Iīm not sure if the wr1īs will keep their money or become very collectable, they donīt seem to be a whole lot more expensive than a normal uk spec sti. JDM maybe a good idea but is it true that you dont get the boxer growl??? I couldnt live without the sound my afterburner makes!
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Old Jun 23, 2010 | 01:41 PM
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Type R Ver 6 for Ģ8 to Ģ9k or Blob JDM Sti for Ģ9k to Ģ10k

IMO Classics, especially & P1 & Type R will age much better than Blobs in the looks dept.
A JDm twin scroll with e.g a H&S Jap exit 3" system sounds like nothing you have ever heard!!

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Old Jun 23, 2010 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Scooby Wagon Addict!
Biggi, I'm not saying that Classics go pop. I'm sure I've read on here that P1 engine's have the reputation for going pop cos the map wasnt right or something.. I'm sure someone will keep me right here..
yeah the mafs are a weak point, and they are mapped quite aggressively, other wise good engine, if looked after
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P1.

Or if its up to me a V5/6 STi RA and spend the rest on making it properly quick.
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Old Jun 23, 2010 | 01:56 PM
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Blobeye all the way.

Preferably an MY05 or later car
Ģ10K will get you a good 05 car
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Well this would be on my shopping list, Bob Rawles old 2003 JDM twinscroll car

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1813248.htm

And my old Spec C is up for sale at a little over 10k, just not quite as comfy

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1809767.htm

Either way, both are more capable cars than the P1 and give you a very good driving experience without knowing if your engine is going to go pop or not

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you save up another 2 k by a blown up classic type r and start from scrtch
3k 2.1 stroker
1k simtek
3k dog box
front mount, injectors??
turbo??
you will have a 450bhp monster for that and get some big brakes
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Another vote for a nice P1. I paid around that for mine with 42000 miles, Prodrive Recaros, 18" prodrive wheels and new short block by Subaru under warranty.

If you are asking the question then you obviously want one. Get it done and you won't regret it
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Old Jun 23, 2010 | 05:21 PM
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Well this would be on my shopping list, Bob Rawles old 2003 JDM twinscroll car

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1813248.htm


Tony
+1 JDM Blobeye, forget resale etc etc , thats goes out of the window when it comes to scooby ownership, most important is to get a good genuine car, of which above is most definatly one..plus you'll have a bit of change....P1's are nice car but too old now and most likely it will go BANG!!!
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why only them two options , surely a nicecly modded bug sti or an classic Ra with change to make it your own or even an early spec c .
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MY 05 JDM Blobeye. All the toys and a nice drive.
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 07:46 AM
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The choice of just the two (p1 & sti) was because i only have 10 grand! Thanks for the feedback though because iīll now be adding to that list and looking at some JDMīs and spec Cīs if they come in under 10 gīs!
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Originally Posted by Scooby Wagon Addict!
Biggi, I'm not saying that Classics go pop. I'm sure I've read on here that P1 engine's have the reputation for going pop cos the map wasnt right or something.. I'm sure someone will keep me right here..

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I thought that the problem with early P1's was the mapping and the fuel rail which caused the final piston to receive petrol to run lean causing it to over heat and eventually fail, hence engine going pop.

I was under the impression that on later ones they fitted a parrellel fuel rail which rectified the problem so these cars wont eventually need a rebiuld.
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan W
I thought that the problem with early P1's was the mapping and the fuel rail which caused the final piston to receive petrol to run lean causing it to over heat and eventually fail, hence engine going pop.

I was under the impression that on later ones they fitted a parrellel fuel rail which rectified the problem so these cars wont eventually need a rebiuld.
Well the map is a JDM map (same as the STI5) but with a little more knock correction (so still mapped for 100 ron fuel), then there is the maf sensor issue, the fuel rail isnt really essential, more than enough cars run fine without it, though keeping the injectors clean and the car well maintained would be a better idea unless you tracked it alot.

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the p1's went pop because prodrive didn't have enough time to map them properly and put crystals in the tank to add the extra ron to the fuel, they ran out in the end and the engine goes pop. i would be looking at a type r instead of the p1 due to the fact there cheaper for a start and i would want the little extras like dccd and intercooler spray. but as has been said if you want it for a daily driver the new ages beat the classics hands down, if you want a weekend tarmac terror the classics the way to go.
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 04:59 PM
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Prodrive were not allowed to map them that was the main issue, the map was changed at Subaru Japan, modifying them didnt help, atleast those with the JDM cars at the time knew they could be tempremental on uk fuel

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Had a 370bhp Bugeye and loved it only sold it cus I lost my job, but now own a V6 type r running 323bhp and love it even more than the bug. I wasnt to sure on the looks to start with but have owned it for about 8 months now and love the look of it more and more, defo grows on you. Bit harder ride though so if its comfort your after go for the blob.
My money Id get a v6 or a P1 and spend the rest on nice mods. Try and get a drive in both cars and see which one makes you smile the most, and a tenner says it will be the classic
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