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Old 03 February 2010, 08:06 PM
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Question What is anti lag

I was reading another thread I NEED MORE SPEED and jgm says he can map in proper al or just map in sound to the ecu. anyone explain,
Old 03 February 2010, 08:34 PM
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Antilag on a road car will gain only a tiny bit on applying the throttle again on a gear change for example.
This is fairly effective on newage cars as the idle stepper motor flows a reasonable amount of air.
Also you get pops, bangs and flames from the exhaust which is what most people want it for.
You said in the other thread you wanted a remap and antilag which therefore means an after market ecu on your car (simtek or solaris for example). However if it is just the noise you want then it is easy to get pops and bangs on overrun when remapping the standard ecu.
Depends on your budget and future plans and what you want.
I just answered your question as best I could with the little info you gave.
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Old 03 February 2010, 08:35 PM
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Brief reply via mobile phone bv hope that helps?
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also intrested in puttin antilag in mostly for the sound as my car is 95% standard and is staying that way for reliabilty so any help and info would be great thanks
Old 03 February 2010, 08:46 PM
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Thats spot on jgm, i didnt write other thread, just saw it on it. Gettin simtek fitted 2 weeks, but opted for no al this time..
Old 03 February 2010, 08:53 PM
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Antilag = The new flamer kit

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Old 03 February 2010, 09:10 PM
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more info please guys can u map a/l into a standard ecu/car if so how much dose it cost if not wat do i need and price wise and recomendations around london / herts thanks
Old 03 February 2010, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by dannyboygti
more info please guys can u map a/l into a standard ecu/car if so how much dose it cost if not wat do i need and price wise and recomendations around london / herts thanks
No, but you can the similar sound and effect, but without the damage. It wont be switchable, so it's on all the time. Will be too much for most people.
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wat do i need to have it done properly and switchable as all the time is a no no for me lol i live in a quite area and have alot of herts and traffic police around my town lol
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Originally Posted by madisonmonkey
Antilag = The new flamer kit
yup and its comming to a council estate in a town near you soon!
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is this what you want
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Originally Posted by HT04
i just knew budgie would be along soon enough.

dan

past my bedtime on a weekday too Dan
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Originally Posted by dannyboygti
wat do i need to have it done properly and switchable as all the time is a no no for me lol i live in a quite area and have alot of herts and traffic police around my town lol
depending on year of car and model it can be done and switchable noise on overrun on the standard ecu with an EcuTek remap.

Otherwise you are looking at a simtek or solaris ecu with switchable antilag.

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Old 03 February 2010, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by HT04
i really want to speak to simon, Jolly Green Monster about mapping my scoob.

dan
you only have to ask
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
yup and its comming to a council estate in a town near you soon!
when used antisocially yes agreed.. but when used on a country road when having a blast the difference on the gearchange pick up is noticable.. must film the boost gauge on mine to demonstrate.

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doesn't have to be modded at all.. exhaust is good move though

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Dear Mr Jolly Green Monster,

I have a PPP on my 08 STI, I really like the idea of the Litchfield cold air induction kit. Can you re-map the PPP ECU to take advantage of this, or would I need a new ECU?

Also, while I've hopefully got your attention, would it be possible to have different Maps on each of the SI drive settings, for instance "I" for 95 Octane when you can't find the good stuff, "S" for more mid range less top end (like a WRX), and "S Sharp" for woah mumma the full monty?

I know it is a cake and eat it kind of question, but.........
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Originally Posted by Potiriadis
Dear Mr Jolly Green Monster,

I have a PPP on my 08 STI, I really like the idea of the Litchfield cold air induction kit. Can you re-map the PPP ECU to take advantage of this, or would I need a new ECU?

Also, while I've hopefully got your attention, would it be possible to have different Maps on each of the SI drive settings, for instance "I" for 95 Octane when you can't find the good stuff, "S" for more mid range less top end (like a WRX), and "S Sharp" for woah mumma the full monty?

I know it is a cake and eat it kind of question, but.........
Yes.. standard ecu is mappable, ppp is only a different map in the standard ecu, so no issue.

Yes.. although it may take more than one meeting to sort it as ideally it needs 95ron in the tank and 99ron in the tank to be able to set it up.. it will take a little bit of playing around but yes no problem.

Drop me a PM if you want to discuss further etc

Thanks
Simon
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Hi Simon,

can the whole "popping and banging" cause long term damage? Does the exhaust need to be de-catted?

plus, can the "s mode" on the 2008+STI be programmed for maximum performance (like s#), with the s# mode giving same performance but added antilag.

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never seen damage caused and as always ran it on my own car for 1000s of miles with no issue.

will usually pop less with cats.

Simon
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Meeting with Simon on the 2nd of march- this anti lag thing seems interesting!!!
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Originally Posted by HT04
lol. i feel a bit stupid tho as mine isnt modified. other than exhaust. but i just want to map it for peace of mind to make sure its running good. and i do want, pops and bangs on the overrun. i know it sounds sad but i like it. thats what ive always wanted.

dan
It's not sad, it's what i always wanted too. Mine is not switchable. Had it for over 2 years and never tire of it



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that antilag is cool though tbh. cant be good for the car though
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Originally Posted by scooby L
Hi Simon,

can the whole "popping and banging" cause long term damage? Does the exhaust need to be de-catted?

plus, can the "s mode" on the 2008+STI be programmed for maximum performance (like s#), with the s# mode giving same performance but added antilag.
No damage that I have seen from this mild form of anti lag - proper full on ALS can be very harsh on headers and turbo though.

Yes - the individual switch settings can be mapped separately. Fueling and ignition as well as the normal boost and throttle responsiveness.
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Cheers Duncan
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Originally Posted by Budgie
is this what you want
Sounds like the exhausts fell off

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