OK Enought of this RSOC/Scoob bashing, How about a Joint Track Day
14 February 2001, 06:27 PM
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How about a joint RS/Scooby track/airfield day to 'settle our differences' and maybe get to know each other a bit better. hopefully this will appeal to the 'serious drivers' and real car owners and not to the 'muppets'(no offence Blowdog et al) out there so may well sort the men from the boyz and you never know it might be damn good fun!
Your thoughts gentlemen (and ladies)
Paul
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Your thoughts gentlemen (and ladies)
Paul
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14 February 2001, 06:35 PM
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Any time after 01.03.01.
I think I would enjoy meeting "normal" members of that side of the fence, never done it before so will probably do me good
I think I would enjoy meeting "normal" members of that side of the fence, never done it before so will probably do me good
14 February 2001, 06:49 PM
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But Buffy, thats all straight line stuff.
Its just D.U.L.L
Lets have some timed laps (if you really want the competition) on a decent circuit - with straights AND some twisty bits?
Its just D.U.L.L
Lets have some timed laps (if you really want the competition) on a decent circuit - with straights AND some twisty bits?
14 February 2001, 06:55 PM
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Right then Turkey Gobblers!!!
I'll post on the RS Board!!!
I'm willing to sort out the RS'ers end, if somebody sorts the Scooby lot.
Any ideas on where (track that is or Brunters)??? Can Stef or SDB assist in this area.
I can probably get a Mag cover from FAST CAR!!!
Shaun.
I'll post on the RS Board!!!
I'm willing to sort out the RS'ers end, if somebody sorts the Scooby lot.
Any ideas on where (track that is or Brunters)??? Can Stef or SDB assist in this area.
I can probably get a Mag cover from FAST CAR!!!
Shaun.
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14 February 2001, 06:56 PM
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More twisties than straights... I might even bring my fire-breathing ickle Fiesta if it's cheap enough....
<B>Owain McRae.</B>
<B>[...oops I just remembered mine ain't a "proper" Rs... would I be allowed to come?]</B>
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<B>Owain McRae.</B>
<B>[...oops I just remembered mine ain't a "proper" Rs... would I be allowed to come?]</B>
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14 February 2001, 07:03 PM
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Count me in as I will bring the RS and 22
This has been a long time coming I say, on TRACK, BOLLOX to this straight line crap I say! Driver Skill and type of car is what its about
The above counts Biffo out then 
Somewhere like Dono would be cool.
This has been a long time coming I say, on TRACK, BOLLOX to this straight line crap I say! Driver Skill and type of car is what its about
The above counts Biffo out then
Somewhere like Dono would be cool.
14 February 2001, 07:08 PM
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I've posted on the RS board!!!
Let's get this sorted!!!!!
Harj can you contact Stef and give him the low down....I'll have a word with SDB!!!
I'll be round in 30 mins m8
Shaun.
Let's get this sorted!!!!!
Harj can you contact Stef and give him the low down....I'll have a word with SDB!!!
I'll be round in 30 mins m8
Shaun.
14 February 2001, 09:49 PM
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Reckon I could be persuaded
Biffo,
Magazines us 0-60 etc to impress no brainers,
rather than see what cars are really capable of round a track.
Wonder what you believe. But then you believe TVRs performance figures too, ROFLMAO.
Biffo,
Magazines us 0-60 etc to impress no brainers,
rather than see what cars are really capable of round a track.
Wonder what you believe. But then you believe TVRs performance figures too, ROFLMAO.
15 February 2001, 12:44 AM
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Most track events are organised with the very strict proviso that no timing or racing takes place, so it would be very difficult to prove very much, without breaking at least one of these rules.
However, taking the concept a bit further, you would need to have a good proportion of standard and modified cars to similar specs to make any comparison worthwhile. Otherwsie you could get the situation where X says "I passed 15 Y cars during the day, and not one passed me", and vice-versa, simply because there were different classes of cars, or they were out on the track at different times.
To make things fair for all, I think a neutral venue would be required. Some people have simply far too much experience of Donington
Perhaps a better suggestion would be a timed event, like a sprint stage. Here both power and handling are tested to the full (against the clock), and only one car at a time. I think there are dozens of sprint/hillclib venues around the country which could be used for this sort of event, and at a much lower cost than hiring a full track. Obviously taking part in any sort of timed event invalidates any warranty that you might have on your car, so I would expect only UK Imprezas over 3 years old, or over 60k miles to be willing to take part, or those with imported models. As only one car is out on the track at a time, everyone else would be together in the paddock, and would give a better opportunity for people to get to know each other.
However, taking the concept a bit further, you would need to have a good proportion of standard and modified cars to similar specs to make any comparison worthwhile. Otherwsie you could get the situation where X says "I passed 15 Y cars during the day, and not one passed me", and vice-versa, simply because there were different classes of cars, or they were out on the track at different times.
To make things fair for all, I think a neutral venue would be required. Some people have simply far too much experience of Donington
Perhaps a better suggestion would be a timed event, like a sprint stage. Here both power and handling are tested to the full (against the clock), and only one car at a time. I think there are dozens of sprint/hillclib venues around the country which could be used for this sort of event, and at a much lower cost than hiring a full track. Obviously taking part in any sort of timed event invalidates any warranty that you might have on your car, so I would expect only UK Imprezas over 3 years old, or over 60k miles to be willing to take part, or those with imported models. As only one car is out on the track at a time, everyone else would be together in the paddock, and would give a better opportunity for people to get to know each other.
15 February 2001, 08:49 AM
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Damn it, Floyd has seen straight through me and sussed the real reason.
Oxbow - No go away and come back when you have a proper car! - Talk to the RS lot as you are one of theirs!
Dingy - When you say 'Its kick *** time' do you realise ity will be our boots and your AR$E !
Great stuff, this looks more like it - lets take it to the track and GET IT ON !
Paul
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Oxbow - No go away and come back when you have a proper car! - Talk to the RS lot as you are one of theirs!
Dingy - When you say 'Its kick *** time' do you realise ity will be our boots and your AR$E !
Great stuff, this looks more like it - lets take it to the track and GET IT ON !
Paul
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15 February 2001, 09:40 AM
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Dingy - 'No stoppin me' eh, may i reccomend a brake upgrade then
Dingy - Was that your white Mk 2 Escort that was at Donno last Nov (Children in Need day)?
Have a good un
Paul
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Dingy - Was that your white Mk 2 Escort that was at Donno last Nov (Children in Need day)?
Have a good un
Paul
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15 February 2001, 01:23 PM
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Good idea John
Earth Calling Stef!!!!!!
Anyone got any suggestions as to where we can do this? how about a model class as in Escort Cossie Monte Carlo against a 22B? etc etc and I don't mean Monte's 550BHP Monster
Some suggest a venue where we can do this?
Earth Calling Stef!!!!!!
Anyone got any suggestions as to where we can do this? how about a model class as in Escort Cossie Monte Carlo against a 22B? etc etc and I don't mean Monte's 550BHP Monster
Some suggest a venue where we can do this?
15 February 2001, 01:36 PM
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Gents/Ladies,
My friend works at the milbrook test track (owned by GM) I believe( I'll have to find this out) that it can be rented on the 3rd weekend of every month, I have no idea how much it is, but I would think its pretty expensive.....I'll find out and probably cause heart attacks with the fee..
Paul.
My friend works at the milbrook test track (owned by GM) I believe( I'll have to find this out) that it can be rented on the 3rd weekend of every month, I have no idea how much it is, but I would think its pretty expensive.....I'll find out and probably cause heart attacks with the fee..
Paul.
15 February 2001, 02:00 PM
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Sorry peeps, been busy.
John is dead right, no circuit is going to be overly keen to allow foaming-at-the-mouth Scoob and Cossie owners on a track for the sole intention of seeing who the quickest is.
The idea of a timed stage is very appealing though.
The only other alternative is for everyone to monopolise a forthcoming event at a track and 'sensibly' sort something out. Playing cat and mouse for example is a good way of finding out who's quicker without actually racing or timing. The only other alternative is to use an airfield, but I doubt Brunters would like the idea either.
There is the upcoming event at Three Sisters involving Scoobs, Cossies and Sunnies, but it's hardly the best place for them.
I suggest everyone comes to The Ring at Easter. That would sort out the men from the boys.
Stef.
John is dead right, no circuit is going to be overly keen to allow foaming-at-the-mouth Scoob and Cossie owners on a track for the sole intention of seeing who the quickest is.
The idea of a timed stage is very appealing though.
The only other alternative is for everyone to monopolise a forthcoming event at a track and 'sensibly'
sort something out. Playing cat and mouse for example is a good way of finding out who's quicker without actually racing or timing. The only other alternative is to use an airfield, but I doubt Brunters would like the idea either.There is the upcoming event at Three Sisters involving Scoobs, Cossies and Sunnies, but it's hardly the best place for them.
I suggest everyone comes to The Ring at Easter. That would sort out the men from the boys.
Stef.
15 February 2001, 02:02 PM
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Oh, and we arranged a similar event back in July last year to 'settle our differences'.
This was predominantly straight line stuff, but I believe the Cossies still got annhialated, what's changed since?
Stef.
This was predominantly straight line stuff, but I believe the Cossies still got annhialated, what's changed since?
Stef.