It's bugging me now that i have an infirior impreza.
02 March 2009, 06:03 PM
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It's bugging me now that i have an infirior impreza.
What are the differences between a 2000 turbo and a 2000 wrx imprza, What do i need to get the bhp or can i just bypass and go more bhp anyone have any good ideas comments?? All will be welcomed!!! Thanx
02 March 2009, 06:28 PM
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It isnt inferior; its intended for different buyers in a different market. A sports cat downpipe, de-cat centre and sensible rear section, a Warlbro fuel pump and an ECU-Tek remap will see you making about 280bhp. A different turbo will see more, but neither the UK nor the Japanese model gearbox will see a deal more torque before its off!
02 March 2009, 06:31 PM
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you impreza has 215bhp compared to wrx with 276bhp and STI 300+bhp.
As for being inferior don't be so bloody stupid you still have a AWD turbo charged car which goes like stink.
I prefer the imports as they are better equipped and the interior is nicer imo but i bought mine because my mate had a 'N' plate (208bhp) and **** was it bloody good fun and i wanted one.
He likes mine (93wrx) because it does seem quicker accelerating and i have the standard import seats which are figure hugging.
speak to someone like www.jollygreenmonster.co.uk for remapping your car and what other mods you can do.
As for being inferior don't be so bloody stupid you still have a AWD turbo charged car which goes like stink.
I prefer the imports as they are better equipped and the interior is nicer imo but i bought mine because my mate had a 'N' plate (208bhp) and **** was it bloody good fun and i wanted one.
He likes mine (93wrx) because it does seem quicker accelerating and i have the standard import seats which are figure hugging.
speak to someone like www.jollygreenmonster.co.uk for remapping your car and what other mods you can do.
02 March 2009, 06:41 PM
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92-sept 94 240ps
94-96 260ps
96 onwards 280ps
STI 1 250ps (modified wrx)
STI 2 275ps (possibly the first real STI?)
STI 3 onwards 280ps
Think the last STIs were actually rated at 300+ps
I'm sure GC8 can correct/clarify figures (if he wants to)
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02 March 2009, 06:42 PM
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240; 260 & 280 for WRXs and 220 & 240 for WRX 'Wagons; depending on year. STIs had more torque but no official horsepower figures exceeding the agreement.
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02 March 2009, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by myblackwrx
STI 1 250ps (modified wrx)
STI 2 275ps (possibly the first real STI?)
STI 2 275ps (possibly the first real STI?)
02 March 2009, 07:13 PM
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Ok cool! Thanx
I Think my car may of had a uprated pack on it when it was new it has a big wing with brake light in samco intercooler hoses etc think also short shift also am i right? If i was to fit a sti turbo and have it re maped and new fuel pump oh and a de cat what do we think to that?
02 March 2009, 07:29 PM
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STIs had a wide range of turbos fitted to different years starting with td05 (not front entry like your td04 though) then vf23,vf24,vf28 so which one do you want?
Personally i would get a budget (£1000 perhaps) then speak to a mapper about what you actually want from the car (yes i know more power )
Personally i would get a budget (£1000 perhaps) then speak to a mapper about what you actually want from the car (yes i know more power
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02 March 2009, 07:38 PM
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nowt wrong with UK models, ive got one, its fettled to around 295BHP and runs spot on, plus it only costs me 400 quid a year to insure and has full history, cream leather interior, I cant fault it.
if I was gona sell it itd only be for a version 6 type R Sti
if I was gona sell it itd only be for a version 6 type R Sti
02 March 2009, 07:43 PM
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you impreza has 215bhp compared to wrx with 276bhp and STI 300+bhp.
As for being inferior don't be so bloody stupid you still have a AWD turbo charged car which goes like stink.
I prefer the imports as they are better equipped and the interior is nicer imo but i bought mine because my mate had a 'N' plate (208bhp) and **** was it bloody good fun and i wanted one.
He likes mine (93wrx) because it does seem quicker accelerating and i have the standard import seats which are figure hugging.
speak to someone like www.jollygreenmonster.co.uk for remapping your car and what other mods you can do.
As for being inferior don't be so bloody stupid you still have a AWD turbo charged car which goes like stink.
I prefer the imports as they are better equipped and the interior is nicer imo but i bought mine because my mate had a 'N' plate (208bhp) and **** was it bloody good fun and i wanted one.
He likes mine (93wrx) because it does seem quicker accelerating and i have the standard import seats which are figure hugging.
speak to someone like www.jollygreenmonster.co.uk for remapping your car and what other mods you can do.
where does this 300+ bhp bollocks for STIs come from?
02 March 2009, 07:44 PM
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02 March 2009, 08:02 PM
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Sounds good.
Ok yeah, What about if i do all the other stuff then have it mapped would this be the best approach would i have any significant gains before mapping? I've got a full leather intirior it's ok car was quite well looked after full s/h etc brakes are also on the way.
02 March 2009, 08:13 PM
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i felt the same the other day,got wasted by a P1,i have a 95 wrx.
everything on mine is uprated apart from the engine.
so i have now de-limited it to mph and have just bought a ninja sports cat downpipe to help add 15bhp i reckon.
just hope i meet that p1 again :-)
everything on mine is uprated apart from the engine.
so i have now de-limited it to mph and have just bought a ninja sports cat downpipe to help add 15bhp i reckon.
just hope i meet that p1 again :-)
02 March 2009, 08:17 PM
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your best off speaking to one of the scooby specialists near you about how to mod you car safely. If you want to get a bigger turbo, decats, bigger injectors and front mount, you will need to have the car mapped before you can drive it otherwise you will be asking us about where you can get your engine rebuilt. just start off small and get a cat back exhaust system and a decent panel filter.
02 March 2009, 08:22 PM
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02 March 2009, 08:43 PM
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I got a uk turbo 3 weeks ago
HKS ssq d/v
HKS mushroom filter
magnex 2.5" exhaust system
Boost turned up
Andy Forrest remap
splitfire leads
GREDDY clutch
There could be more...... Been told its about the 290bhp mark ish.
Fire some ££££ at it mate if your not happy
HKS ssq d/v
HKS mushroom filter
magnex 2.5" exhaust system
Boost turned up
Andy Forrest remap
splitfire leads
GREDDY clutch
There could be more...... Been told its about the 290bhp mark ish.
Fire some ££££ at it mate if your not happy
03 March 2009, 08:31 AM
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Right ho.
So saying that am i more in the right direction with what i said about sti turbo de cat re map etc you think? Do you know anything about the upgrade from dealer? nobody seams to as i figure it was given 29 more bhp......
03 March 2009, 09:52 AM
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Thing is, its not just "STI turbo" as myblackwrx says.
You need to choose which one - they each behave differently and will respond differently to other mods.
On a TD04 which is what UK turbos have - map, filter, eggsauce could get you 260 - irrespective of what a RR printout tells you. I was given a printout from somewhere on my car with the above and it said 279HP - i had my credit card in my hand which probably added a good 20BHP
To give you an idea for a UK turbo, this is my wishlist for MY99 onwards (440 injectors):-
VF35
FMIC
Induction kit
Uprated fuel pump and regulator
Ported manifold
Eggsauce of your choice 3" (cos it sounds bigga!)
ECUTEK remap or my preference is the Simtek for added snap crackle and POP!
A good couple of grand but should see you over 300BHP - and drive gently until you can afford a new clutch.
You need to choose which one - they each behave differently and will respond differently to other mods.
On a TD04 which is what UK turbos have - map, filter, eggsauce could get you 260 - irrespective of what a RR printout tells you. I was given a printout from somewhere on my car with the above and it said 279HP - i had my credit card in my hand which probably added a good 20BHP
To give you an idea for a UK turbo, this is my wishlist for MY99 onwards (440 injectors):-
VF35
FMIC
Induction kit
Uprated fuel pump and regulator
Ported manifold
Eggsauce of your choice 3" (cos it sounds bigga!)
ECUTEK remap or my preference is the Simtek for added snap crackle and POP!
A good couple of grand but should see you over 300BHP - and drive gently until you can afford a new clutch.
03 March 2009, 10:14 AM
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Why is it that the old UK classics tend to rolling-road at higher figures than their quoted factory rating?
For example, mine as bone stock did 238bhp (stock exhaust including all the cats, etc) and on 95ron fuel, when it should be doing 208bhp.
Ok 30bhp inaccuracy isn't unheard of ( "climatic conditions" tyre presssures, corrective vales, blah blah ) But that wouldn't explain the stock classic JDM WRX (260ps varient) giving near enough 260bhp (well, 263bhp or something like that) and a stock freshly imported slightly modifed classic 280PS STi doing 290bhp (on SUL and octane booster IIRC), all on the same day. 
Infact, looking at achive web cache of the defuct dyno scoobies website, the lowest BHP for a UK classic out of 111 runs was 229bhp which was done by a standard 215bhp UK MY99 on 95RON.
For example, mine as bone stock did 238bhp (stock exhaust including all the cats, etc) and on 95ron fuel, when it should be doing 208bhp.
Ok 30bhp inaccuracy isn't unheard of ( "climatic conditions" tyre presssures, corrective vales, blah blah
) But that wouldn't explain the stock classic JDM WRX (260ps varient) giving near enough 260bhp (well, 263bhp or something like that) and a stock freshly imported slightly modifed classic 280PS STi doing 290bhp (on SUL and octane booster IIRC), all on the same day. Infact, looking at achive web cache of the defuct dyno scoobies website, the lowest BHP for a UK classic out of 111 runs was 229bhp which was done by a standard 215bhp UK MY99 on 95RON.
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03 March 2009, 10:51 AM
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Yeah this is all sounding good to me, I best start getting some parts at the end of the month hey? i might have given the wrong impression earlyer in my post because i love my car it's the best thing most fun thing i have owned and i have left a couple of porches behind in the wet.
03 March 2009, 05:26 PM
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Carl, as said, nothing wrong with UK/euro imprezas. But before you start modding it, take a long good look at selling it and buying a STi instead, if a jap import it risk having been run unmapped on uk gas so an engine failure risk, but, you get so much 'in the package' that it will turn out way cheaper in the end even if it looks dear at first glance.
I've modded my car for at least as much as I bought if for and it's still not even STi spec. (ok, so some parts are newage STi spec ;-) )
I've modded my car for at least as much as I bought if for and it's still not even STi spec. (ok, so some parts are newage STi spec ;-) )
03 March 2009, 05:33 PM
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Yep I had a bog standard MY99 UKTurbo 2000 quoted at 215bhp and on the RR it produced 244bhp on 95RON. No upgrades whatsoever - even the original exhaust.
I do think the UK cars were a little bit underquoted power wise.
I do think the UK cars were a little bit underquoted power wise.