car stolen :(
14 February 2009, 02:59 AM
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car stolen :(
Had my silver sti ver.3 stolen in manchester P reg. Completely standard. Gutted, been to the police and i doubt they are going to find the car. Havent even been able to enjoy it whatsoever.
Was at a friends house and some of the neighbours said the car was being checked out by some lads in a black honda saloon and then they came back and took the car within 5 minutes.
Feel so frustrated and helpless
Was at a friends house and some of the neighbours said the car was being checked out by some lads in a black honda saloon and then they came back and took the car within 5 minutes.
Feel so frustrated and helpless
14 February 2009, 03:23 AM
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1997 P reg classic version 3 totally standard other than ind.kit and dump\ valve. reg no. P137 BHG. ermmm dont really know what else. was mint aswell 120k kilometres on the clock.
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14 February 2009, 09:32 AM
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14 February 2009, 10:26 AM
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Was it a Wagon ?
My mate had his wagon stolen then it was used in a ram raid corner shop, Throw a chain over the cash machine and yanked it out, then loaded it into the boot of the car, and off they go, It was found a few days laters.
This had a Toad alarm A606I on it and they got round it by cutting direct into the fuel live wire and put it straight onto a battery by passing the immobiliser and done something else I forget. (That will work round any alarm!)
The police say the reasons they steal the Subaru wagons is because they are AWD with a good launch and the wagon is easy to load the cash machine in. Also a great car to be used as a get away car if in chace!
My advice is "If" you own a wagon protect it more IMHO!
Hope you get your car back buddy but although if you do it will never feel the same knowing someone else has ragged it and will end up selling it. Never a nice feeling I know!
My mate had his wagon stolen then it was used in a ram raid corner shop, Throw a chain over the cash machine and yanked it out, then loaded it into the boot of the car, and off they go, It was found a few days laters.
This had a Toad alarm A606I on it and they got round it by cutting direct into the fuel live wire and put it straight onto a battery by passing the immobiliser and done something else I forget. (That will work round any alarm!)
The police say the reasons they steal the Subaru wagons is because they are AWD with a good launch and the wagon is easy to load the cash machine in. Also a great car to be used as a get away car if in chace!
My advice is "If" you own a wagon protect it more IMHO!
Hope you get your car back buddy but although if you do it will never feel the same knowing someone else has ragged it and will end up selling it. Never a nice feeling I know!
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14 February 2009, 11:06 AM
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14 February 2009, 12:02 PM
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I disagree:
Its all common knowledge if ANYONE reads the installation instruction to these alarms of which are easily obtainable, or the person bypassing the system has basic automotive electrical know how.
Most alarms have two immobilser circuits (some have three, old school ones had four
):One typically for fuel/ignition, the other for the starter circuit.
Using your brain its obvious, one goes to the starter motor, the other to the ECU or fuel pump wiring. If the car is EFi, it should be done to the ECU system not the fuel pump (fuel pumps, like ignition coils are easy to bridge as its only two wires, making guesswork easy). Also using the master ignition relay (or ignition switch) for the secondary immobiliser circuit is a VERY BAD idea - as that is very very easy to bridge without even having to get at the wires.
Thus the onus is to ensure that the immobilser cuts are as made in such a way that it makes bridging method as mentioned by cossie-nutter as difficult as possible.
LAZY INSTALLs have immobiliser cuts on the or near the steering column: BAD NEWS! Its easy to bridge and bypass by any criminal who has basic automotive electrical experience. I've had to do it myself on cars with faulty alarms. After removing the cowling it took me under 5 mins on one, and I'm not a car thief - thatcham install - not!
I'm keeping this public as education of the customer that their "cat 1" alarm should not be used as the sole form of security. Which is why I always say:
USE A DISKLOCK!
(and/or wheel clamp - I used both when parking in Brum, And I used to install alarms
)Electronic security, no matter if its cat-1, cat-2, cat-5 or cat-q should not be relied upon as the only form of vehicle anti-theft
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14 February 2009, 02:30 PM
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mate its comon knowlege how people used to nick cars, jap cars have a advatage that the side lights are cut when the ignition aint running as a classic way to get round the imobilser on cossies was to wire the pump to the rear lights then the ignition cut was usually on the main switch wiring,, thus starting the car
to make matters worse my tracker was located in the boot beside the rear lights in my old cossie
the AA started my bmw within 5 mins when the alarm stopped working and that was a BMW alarm fitted,,, the alarm was UNDER the ecu and the imobiliser wires where easy to spot,, they was the THICKER black wires comming from the alarm
as said secure it witha mecahical lock and a imobiliser is the only way forward,,though then it will be lifted like my cossie was
to make matters worse my tracker was located in the boot beside the rear lights in my old cossie
the AA started my bmw within 5 mins when the alarm stopped working and that was a BMW alarm fitted,,, the alarm was UNDER the ecu and the imobiliser wires where easy to spot,, they was the THICKER black wires comming from the alarm
as said secure it witha mecahical lock and a imobiliser is the only way forward,,though then it will be lifted like my cossie was
14 February 2009, 03:35 PM
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It was just standard engine immobiliser. standard gold alloys, still had the wrx stickers on the boot. it was taken from longsight, i had gone to visit family so didnt put a steering lock on as i only went in for 5 minutes before coming back out to find it gone.
Hope it doesnt come back to be honest because it will have been ragged silly so wont be anywhere near the condition it was left. Only had it for a week or so and didnt have time to get an alarm fitted.
Hope it doesnt come back to be honest because it will have been ragged silly so wont be anywhere near the condition it was left. Only had it for a week or so and didnt have time to get an alarm fitted.
14 February 2009, 03:52 PM
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They dont have a standard immobiliser, so probably why its gone and it was longsight, it will be in the rusholme/moss side area now probably.... (and no, i wouldnt want it back either )
Tony
and it was longsight, it will be in the rusholme/moss side area now probably.... (and no, i wouldnt want it back either )Tony
