Just wondering if anyone could shed a little light on this for me...

Presumably there will be someone who has driven the P1 and the STi Type R, which did you think was the better car? I'm currently driving a UK Turbo due to insurance being astronomical on these 2 cars but as soon as they are in my reach price wise I'll be going for one.

I understand that the P1 was released as a UK version of the Type R to combat grey imports and was fairly similarly specced engine wise both around 276bhp. There were some differences gearbox wise aswell, are the STi a knightmare on fuel on motorway cruises due to the gearing being designed for acceleration?

Cheers

 

Have never driven a Type-R but own a P1 and 22B and I would imagine the 22B and Type-R are pretty much the same car, or very similar, to drive (minus the arches etc.)

The gearing on the 22B is very short so on motorway it will rev a bit higher (not sure exactly what but sure somebody will have noted...) which is also rather noisy if you have decatted....I don't use either much on a motorday as they are not daily drives but when I'm pushing on down back roads etc. I feel the P1 is a lot easier to drive and everybit as fast, if not faster because I feel more planted.

P1 will be far more compliant but Type-R's have more "goodies" . But it all comes down to what you want from your car rather than whats the "better car" they both have their strengths and weaknesses.

 

My Type R does 80mph in 5th at 4Krpm, my UK Turbo used to do that speed at about 3Krpm.
Type R's are available with longer 5th gears though for better motorway driving.

The Type R has the advantage of stronger rear diff and drive shafts, DCCD and Intercooler Water Spray.

P1 gets longer gearing, ABS

Probably a few other differences but there the first few that come to mind.

 

The long fifth gear is a good option for motorway driving but I think it causes a bit of a dip of power when you change from 4th to 5th?

 

I could imagine that the P1 understeers a bit more without the DCCD but I have never driven one. I do love my Type R though since it feels a lot like driving a rwd with the DCCD set to open.

 

Do a search on here. This has been covered zillions of times and always ends in fights! I've owned a 22buk, a V5typeR and a P1 and they each have their qualities and drawbacks.

 

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What the man says, depends what you want from your wheels and on your own preferances.....

 

Agree 100%, my 22b was an Import mind you, i,ve had a V6 RA and now a V3 STI, and a P1 and a RB5 and tbh the car that felt at home the most on our roads was the RB5, BUT for rawness it has to be what i have now, 22b was very close to it.

I loved my P1 though, had it from new, BUT i,m waffling and to answer your question if it were me, i think i,d be swayed towards the TYPE-R just for it few extra gimmicks it comes with AND you,ll PROBABLY PAY LESS FOR ONE..

 

Cheers for your responses fellas, there is one thing I could do and set out to own them both lol!

STi may just swing it, DCCD sounds a hoot though I think this sways me slightly and look to get the 5th gear ratio changed as this would be my daily driver and I travel a stretch on the motorway, plus don't want those M badge owners annoying me!!

 

There,s a couple of nice Type -Rs for sale on here fella....

 

Or you could do what I have done - a P1 with a dccd centre diff fitted...

BTW Type R V limited models have the longer 5th as standard

 

My type r isnt a v-ltd and it has the longer 5th

 

Apparantly only standard on V6, optional extra on V5, i've got a V5 V-ltd and it has the short 5th, but i know a mate has a V5 V-ltd with the longer 5th

 

I have a V4 with a longer 5th original gearbox aswell so clearly not as rare as you thought

 

you still got that car?

thought you sold it ages ago?

 

Dean find out what u got mate, sounds like there are many different ones, dont know what they should be standard though, anybody help?

 

mine to

 

Yep im amazed too but in 2 years not one person came to view it so their loss,its being MOT'd next week and taxed and back on the road.Type R for during the week and Spec C for weekends

 

got a 98 v-limited type r now

done 300 miles in 6 months, 100 of that getting it home

another fine investment

spec c any good?

 

Probably optioned from new, like i said apparantly only standard on V6 V-LTD, but could be on any type R as an option, maybe

 

Spec C is amazing especially on the track,totally different animal to the Type R but equally as enjoyable to drive

 

Who cares if u got a type r u aint worried about fuel consumpsion on long trips, if its that bad give it to me, i wont moan, lol.

 

scooby tc you have pm

 

returned

 

cheers