ric

Hello everybody,

I have a MY98. The only mods to my car are the downpipe and backbox.

Now I want to have a real track beast, so I looked for the upgrade path for my Scooby and found the following:

- suspension ~1000£
- 17" rims ~750£
- brakes ~1500£
- Group A wing ~150£
- complete exhaust system with sportscatalyst ~700£
- Samco hoses, induction kits......... ~230£
- remapped ECU ~1000£ (in Switzerland)
- bigger turbo ~700£

= 6030£ WOW, thats a lot of money.

Now, should I go the upgrade path or buy an EVO? (of course I would buy an STI, but they aren't available in Switzerland!)

thankx for any opinions!

ric from Switzerland

PS: ouaaaaaa, I should start saving some money........

buddy

HOW ABOUT A NICE SKYLINE A REAL TRACK MARQUE!
If availible in swissland

Tim Bomford

Also consider fuel costs. Though Ralliart figures quote 28mpg the usual tankful lasted me 130 miles and consumption was 13mpg in my EVO Vi GSR.

Tim

ric

No, you cannot buy a Skyline in Switzerland.....and they are soooo expensive!

ric

Bajie

I too have a MY98.
Calculate your cars worth if you sell it?
And how much will the Evo cost?
I've driven an Evo and followed a Makkinen.
If I was to change "like for like", it would be the Mitsubishi. The only thing it doesn't do is make a nice noise. If you want the car specifically as a track tool, this should not matter.
Good luck with whatever you decide

Blow Dog

Tim, then I suggest you get it checked out coz it seems you have a problem,

I get average 25MPG and I definately am not soft with my pedal. I manage at the very least 200 miles to the tank.

cem

Martin Stirling

Have to agree with the Dog here, I get about the same, around 25mpg. Also in answer to your question, get an Evo and it'll be the best decision you ever made..

MS.

Also the inherent lack of noise of the Evo can easily be fixed. Fitted a Blitz system the day after I got mine and quiet is definately not a word I would use to describe my car now.

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sourob

OH NO!!!I hope i will get more than that per gallon picked up my evo yesterday,its stunning!!! DIA8.

ROSS

Martin does the exhaust make any differance to your warranty?...assuming it is a UK car.

robman

Soula, you must must must pleeeeeez take me for a spin in your new beasty!

R

Tim Bomford

My EVO was not a Ralliart car, neither is Liam's who also uses this BBS. He only gets between 12-15mpg too. I guess its how you drive em! Car now sold anyway so not my problem anymore

HUNTY

Ralliart dealers will turn a blind eye to minor mods, exhaust, filter etc.

Buy the Evo, I use mine for mainly urban driving and get 18mpg, best 22mpg on the motorway.

Kevin.

to ferreira

sorry for my ignorance, but, could you convert mpg in lt/100kms.

regards

to ferreira

Adam M

This begs a question that I have never before pondered.

Which is better, the evo or the impreza?

Does anyone know the right answer?

P.s. Moreay Mckenzy is a ****!

WHAT'S YOUR POINT, ADAM?


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Robertio

iTrader: (1)

Possibly:

mpg to l/km:
242.77 / mpg figure

me scoob:
15.2mpg : 242.77 / 15.2 = 16 l/km

I might just get an Evo if you lot can get 25mpg from them, I can't get that from my MY00 UK Turbo.

Richard F

Hang on, have I just read that right? 16 litres of fuel per kilometer????



60L tank = less than 4 km!!!

Blow Dog

All,

RE: Exhausts and other minor upgrades...even a backbox replacement will invalidate your UK warranty. It is categorically explained in its terms and conditions that any third party product added to your car is bad news. They 'may' support the HKS system though, because they are suppliers of them. Smacks of hypocrisy to be honest.

Check this: Official Ralliart Stage 1 conversion (which Ralliart dont even do!) invalidates your warranty.

Go figure.

Cem.

p.s. All Evo's are Ralliart cars, but not necessarily a UK car. My Mak is a Ralliart car, but a Jap one. I went import because of a 8k saving and no UK warranty, which I would have invalidated straight away anyway.

Richard F

Oh, I guess that's per 100km.

(door slams)

[This message has been edited by Richard F (edited 19 December 2000).]

to ferreira

i have no doubts that an evo v/vi has a fuel consumption higher than a wrx.
mine (WRX, EUROPEAN SPECIFICATION;258 hp)is about 20 liters per hundred km, and, i`d like to have even a gross comparision.
that`s the reason for my question.
however, ROBERTIO conversion is wrong;no douts.
does anyone knows a formula for direct conversion?.

regards

to ferreira

Robertio

iTrader: (1)

Richard, it is per 100km, oops
ie 60l tank is less than 400km or 250miles

Richard F

Official conversion (from some USA site so dunno if its the same)...

mpg * 0.4251437

to ferreira

PRESUMING THE FORMULA IS CORRECT, IT MEANS THAT MY CAR IS NEAR THE GUINESS WITH ABOUT 12MPG.
I THINK MY PROBLEM IS IN THE "AIR MASS SENSOR".
DOES ANYONE HAVE RUMORS ABOUT AMS PROBLEMS LIKE MINE?.
BECAUSE, AS FAR AS I KNOW, AMS FAILURES CAN ORIGINATE WRONG DATA READINGS AND CONSEQUENTLY, WRONG ORDERS TO THE ECU.


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IMPREZAIST

WÝth these modifications (you think to do to your my98)impreza can easily beat the evo on track or on road.
These are some track times:
my99(17''wheels,springs,250hp)vs my99 std vs evo6 gsr in HOCKENHEIM:
my99:1.19.6
evo6:1.18.6
my99(modified):1.18.2
it is 30hp less than evo but easily beats evo.
thanks
CHEERS

Blow Dog

Oh shut up already

dowser

Buy the Evo Ric, I fancy a go in one Have you spoken to Steve, he had a friend moving to USA and was selling one.....

Richard

spudgun

who wants an evo6 anyway, it looks like ****,and by the time ive finished with my scooby, it wont be THAT much slower. did they hire stevie wonder to do the body styling?

CraigH

And don't tell me, Stevie Wonder was driving the EVO?

Blow Dog

lol

spudgun

how did u know craig?! do mitsubishi crash evo 6's a few times before they sell them? all them bulges and bumps look kinda accidental. or was it simply a case of ralliart letting a spotty teenager who reads max power too much have a freehand in the design department. speeds all well and good, but id prefer not to be ridiculed for driving a dog like an evo 6, only for inane banter on scoobynet

Marcos

Hi,


This isn't really relevant - but drove sourob's new evo 4 on the weekend.

W O W!

even if it was 10mpg - its worth the extra fuel... goes SSSSSOOOOOOO well AND has a nice interior AND has more room in the back AND has fantastic brakes, also doens't seem to have any lag - its sssoooo smooth.

Pity it looks like MAX POWER car with the spoiler :-)

cheeers

Marcus

PS My partner won't let me have one so I'm saving for a 5 door STi6/7 with better brakes than the ones I've got now (I think they came off a mountain bike).