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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 11:12 AM
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If you tucked a scoob under a breathable car cover and turned the engline over for a couple of minutes once or twice a week.

1.How long do you lot recon you could do this for - without having a bad effect on items such as tyres through non movement.

2.Does turning over the engine for a few minutes and not moving the car have a bad effect on things mechanically?

3.If you drove round the block a few times about once a month. Would that be enough to keep the moving parts in a useable state. So how often should you move a car that you are not using.

Anyone stored a scoob over the winter? Any tips etc?

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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 12:05 PM
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ive been thinkin of storing the car but wanted a garage to put it in but looks like im gonna have to drive it all winter now
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 12:08 PM
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Best method is stick it on axle stands to keep weight of tyres and deflate them slightly. Disconnect the battery and ensure its immobilsed by some method.

When putting back on the road its probably worth doing an oil change and giving it a once over!
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 12:12 PM
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last winter i left my scoob out in my front garden and by summer it wouldnt start. fred
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by fred coupe
last winter i left my scoob out in my front garden and by summer it wouldnt start. fred
Thats exactly the kind of the situation I want to avoid.
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 12:29 PM
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but enventually me and my mate jump started it
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 12:54 PM
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Steve why do you even want to store it???? they are great fun in the winter as you will find out when you get yours over here. Trust me you will then realise what complete crap the guys in England are talking when you see how good a scoob is in the snow when properly suited and booted
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 12:57 PM
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scoobs are rubbish in snow they dont handle at all well
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by fred coupe
scoobs are rubbish in snow they dont handle at all well

one down many many to go after all I wouldn't know what I am talking about would I!!!!

this should make interesting reading in an hour or so.
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 01:13 PM
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last year someone died in a scooby on snow
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by fred coupe
last year someone died in a scooby on snow

Oh dear!!!! so that makes them crap does it? I drive my car every day when it snows here and have never had so much as a brown trouser moment. The problem you lot have is you do not listen to what you are told by people who do know what they are talking about and live with snow for a fair amount of the time.

I personally can not wait for it to snow because I know how to drive in snow and my car is prepared for it, something you guys in England do not do.

just out of curiosity how many people died in other cars in the snow????
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by fred coupe
last year someone died in a scooby on snow
AND

i'm sure some one did in a mondeo focus and scenic etc as well

part of subaru sales speal is that the 4wd is good (better than 2wd) for all conditions
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 01:20 PM
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Wurzel is right.

Use summer tyres on one in the snow etc and it will be much more than a handful, as any powerful car, especially with a turbo kick mid way through the rev range would be.

Stick it on winter tyres and it's an awesome tool. I drove to the French Alps in mine in the month of February on winter tyres and it was superb. I couldn't understand what all the traffic jams and Brit cars sliding off the road were doing on the way home through really bad snow. It really is exceptionally sure footed when, as Wurzel said, it is correctly suited and booted.
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by fred coupe
last year someone died in a scooby on snow
what a pathetic thing to say!
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by fred coupe
scoobs are rubbish in snow they dont handle at all well
Rubbish in snow, when compared with dry, warm tarmac - maybe.
Rubbish in snow, when compared with some run-of-the-mill car - no!

I've managed to drive up a steep hill in my WRX that was impossible to walk on because it was covered in sheet ice!

ABS can be a bit rubbish, but if you drive appropriately it is very predictable to drive on snow / ice.
Traction can give a false sense of security - it'll only stop as well as any other car. With winter tyres though, I guess it would be 10 times better than with 'summer' tyres!
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 01:25 PM
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my evo v111 is much better than my subaru on the snow
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by fred coupe
scoobs are rubbish in snow they dont handle at all well

Man after my own heart



As for storage, discconect the battery, or buy a fully automatic battery charger that is safe to left connected to a car (such as an optimate or accumate).

Turning over is ill advised especially every week- just drains your battery, and its the equivelent to doing an cold start, better off leaving it until your actually going to use it.

However, If the car is going to be out of action for 6months, I would squirt a table spoon of oil into each bore and hand crank it a few revolutions, and repeat it every 3 to 6months (depending on how damp your garage is). Then repeat it upon recomissioning.

Oil generally doesn't degrade from storage. However its best if the oil change was done not long before storage (note oil chnaged, car is used, THEN stored); the reason being is it reduces any acids or moisture in the oil which may etch into bearing surfaces.

The oil condition won't detriorate over storage (presuming it is at least a semi-synthetic), so there is no need to change it when the car is recommissioned.

Tyres can get flatspots after several months, so if its longer than 3months, I suggest eveither axle stands or fitting some cheap spare wheels and tyres sourced from a scrap yard.

If car is stored outside, brake discs may need resurfacing if the elements have heavily corroded the surfaces. This is usually after 6months or longer.

If the car is only going to be out of action for a month or two, I wouldn't bother with anything, apart from keeping the battery in check.
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by fred coupe
scoobs are rubbish in snow they dont handle at all well
...on 18s with wafer thin, hugely wide summer tyres that are wholly inappropriate for driving on snow.

Have to admit that in the UK, we don't really get enough snow (in the south) to justify winter tyres on small rims. Unless you're just in to driving on snow.

Last thing I want to be doing in the snow and ice of a morning is changing my 18s for 16s whilst trying to not be killed by the car/jack or land on my **** with a wheel on top of me.

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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 01:31 PM
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I have been driving my Scooby in snow here in Germany for many years now, man how I look forward to the snow! Gives me the chance to play drifting, donutting, and generally arsing about, mostly in empty car parks.

Don't Garage it for the winter, put winter tyres on it and enjoy it, you will be amazed at how much fun they can be with the right tyres on.

Please note: I am talking winter tyres not snow tyres, they are illegal here due to the studs, winter tyres are soft compound, deep tread, with lots of groves and pattern to them. They give far more grip at lower temperatures, and in the snow. Between 7C and 15C there is little difference between winter and summer tyres. But at other temperatures the difference is really noticeable.

I never used winter tyres before moving to Germany, I was so amazed at the difference I cannot see why anyone would want to keep the same tyres all year round unless they live in the tropics.
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 01:31 PM
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ive tried most of that but none of it seems to work
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by vindaloo
...on 18s with wafer thin, hugely wide summer tyres that are wholly inappropriate for driving on snow.

Have to admit that in the UK, we don't really get enough snow (in the south) to justify winter tyres on small rims. Unless you're just in to driving on snow.

Last thing I want to be doing in the snow and ice of a morning is changing my 18s for 16s whilst trying to not be killed by the car/jack or land on my **** with a wheel on top of me.

J.

don't take offence but again another naieve post by someone who has got their facts wrong as usual.

we are talking about winter tyres NOT snow tyres, winter tyres are made of rubber with a higher silcon content and wider tread pattern, they are designed to work in temps lower than 7deg C, be that in rain, snow, fog or whatever. if you drive with summer tyres on roads less than 7deg your tyres glaze over and go hard, providing zero traction, winter tyres do not do this they come into their own at these temps, also as you only need them for 3-4 months of the year they last for about 4-5 winters, what we do is have a set of crappy steel wheels with winters on and we just swap them over in Dec and swap em back in march/April time.

If you weigh up the cost of a new set of alloys for when you curb yours by crashing in the snow to a set of steel wheels and a set of winter tyres that last 4 years minimum, plus the peace of mind you will get when you do use them they are definately worth it even if you do only get a snow dusting that lasts a day or so.

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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 01:41 PM
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you seem to have tried everything fred
apart from make friends on this forum......
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by vindaloo
Have to admit that in the UK, we don't really get enough snow (in the south) to justify winter tyres on small rims. Unless you're just in to driving on snow.

J.
Winter tyres are not just for the snow!!!!, that would be snow tyres!

Wintre tyres are for lower temperatures and wetter conditions, plus they are good in the snow.

I drive on winter tyres from roughly November - March, depending on the weather, this year I am still on summers, but I will be changing to winters soon, getting a bit cold now for summer tyres now here.
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i dont bother to change my tyres
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 01:51 PM
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Just my opinion but if you want to argue about how good or crap a scooby handles in snow,why not start a seperate thread?
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Originally Posted by fred coupe
i dont bother to change my tyres
sad for you, you don't know what you are missing out on!
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 01:55 PM
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i dont think it makes alot of differance
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 02:10 PM
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I've got a mate who has a 1970's 911 which he stores over the Winter. He does the following:
1. Oil service before storage.
2. Drain the fuel tank
3. Place on axle stands and remove wheels
4. store wheels flat, preferably on a wheel stand so each wheel is not touching the other
5. Remove battery and leave connected to a charger/discharger to preserve the battery

At the end of the storage, you just need to re-fit the tyres, fit the battery and fill the fuel tank and it should start first time!
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Steptoe
Just my opinion but if you want to argue about how good or crap a scooby handles in snow,why not start a seperate thread?
AGREED.

The OP wants to know what to do to store his car over the winter, not how good winter tyres are.

Besides we have this discussion every year around this time!

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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 02:15 PM
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fine i will
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