Is my Bug a slug?
25 October 2006, 11:44 PM
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Is my Bug a slug?
I was driving my 02 bug with decatted PPP following a friend in his Alfa 3.0 V6 on the motorway the other day and then I decided I should get past. Naturally he decided to try to keep up and the problem is that he did. He mentioned that I had some visible puffs of smoke on gearchanges too but possibly the decat has something to do with that?
Anyway, is this performance about right or am I driving a slug around?
BTW, my Fabia vRS nips along great but the Scoob is another planet so it's not exactly slow but maybe it's not exactly right either. Any feedback is very welcome!
Mike
Anyway, is this performance about right or am I driving a slug around?
BTW, my Fabia vRS nips along great but the Scoob is another planet so it's not exactly slow but maybe it's not exactly right either. Any feedback is very welcome!
Mike
26 October 2006, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Echo
I was driving my 02 bug with decatted PPP following a friend in his Alfa 3.0 V6 on the motorway the other day and then I decided I should get past. Naturally he decided to try to keep up and the problem is that he did. He mentioned that I had some visible puffs of smoke on gearchanges too but possibly the decat has something to do with that?
Anyway, is this performance about right or am I driving a slug around?
BTW, my Fabia vRS nips along great but the Scoob is another planet so it's not exactly slow but maybe it's not exactly right either. Any feedback is very welcome!
Mike
Anyway, is this performance about right or am I driving a slug around?
BTW, my Fabia vRS nips along great but the Scoob is another planet so it's not exactly slow but maybe it's not exactly right either. Any feedback is very welcome!
Mike
0-60 0-100 60-100
6.32 15.53 9.21
03 WRX PPP
5.24 14.24 9.00
Look at the 60-100 times for both cars. I'd say the outcome was about right. Big engined cars can give a rice rocket something to think about when you get above 70mph which they all get to very quickly.
If you've had the PPP spec WRX decatted without a further remap though, you wont be getting the full benefit out of your mods.
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26 October 2006, 11:40 AM
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I can not comment on your particular case, but I have a MY06 STi PPP which was totally annihilated by T reg Fiat coupe (turbo). We both hit some dual carriage way at the same time and I had every intention of ‘pushing him over’ so I could overtake. He had none of it – left me for dust…. 
26 October 2006, 11:54 AM
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a fiat coupe?!!! must have been heavily moded.
here are the figures for the 20l 20v turbo coupe. The Global Car Locator Technical data 1996 Fiat Coupe 2.0 20v Turbo
they are ok but not quick enough to blitz an Sti PPP
here are the figures for the 20l 20v turbo coupe. The Global Car Locator Technical data 1996 Fiat Coupe 2.0 20v Turbo
they are ok but not quick enough to blitz an Sti PPP
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Originally Posted by markmarkymark
I can not comment on your particular case, but I have a MY06 STi PPP which was totally annihilated by T reg Fiat coupe (turbo). We both hit some dual carriage way at the same time and I had every intention of ‘pushing him over’ so I could overtake. He had none of it – left me for dust….
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26 October 2006, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
That must have been a quite heavily modified example mate!! Had it been std, it would have been you that would have left him for dust.
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26 October 2006, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by markmarkymark
Well I was shocked, I know my car is not the fastest everyday car on the road anymore, but I thought it had the edge on most stuff. My car has only done 1600 miles so I did not rag it. It also feels very fast (compared to my old My04 WRX PPP) so something fishy was going on!
so the ones left on the road are likely to be in the hands of enthusiasts....and us enthusiasts do like to modify 
Your car should be producing, what, 330bhp and similar torque? So it would have needed to be running a good 400 bhp+ to "leave you for dust".
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26 October 2006, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Torpid
Most Imprezas are slow once moving and even slower once you get a move on.
Bug/Blob eye WRX vs a Fiat Coupe - both std then true, same WRX vs Fabia Vrs then not true
26 October 2006, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Jay m A
True and not true, its all relative.
Bug/Blob eye WRX vs a Fiat Coupe - both std then true, same WRX vs Fabia Vrs then not true
Bug/Blob eye WRX vs a Fiat Coupe - both std then true, same WRX vs Fabia Vrs then not true
26 October 2006, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Torpid
Most Imprezas are slow once moving and even slower once you get a move on.
26 October 2006, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Marko2101
what do you drive to say that then? your mums nissan micra?
In terms of decently fast cars the Impreza is nowhere unless very heavily modded. What I found my Impreza's good at was low speed stuff, upto 70 or so and in greasy, marginal conditions. Of course I never owned one of the **** poor fugly bugeye versions which are even slower than all the others.
I find it laughable that there are so many people in obvious denial as to the limitations of their 'plastic fantastic'.
Face facts, these days, the Impreza is at best in the hot hatch category as regards outright speed.
26 October 2006, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Torpid
A debadged S8 and I've owned a couple of Subarus so I have experience of both.
In terms of decently fast cars the Impreza is nowhere unless very heavily modded. What I found my Impreza's good at was low speed stuff, upto 70 or so and in greasy, marginal conditions. Of course I never owned one of the **** poor fugly bugeye versions which are even slower than all the others.
I find it laughable that there are so many people in obvious denial as to the limitations of their 'plastic fantastic'.
Face facts, these days, the Impreza is at best in the hot hatch category as regards outright speed.
In terms of decently fast cars the Impreza is nowhere unless very heavily modded. What I found my Impreza's good at was low speed stuff, upto 70 or so and in greasy, marginal conditions. Of course I never owned one of the **** poor fugly bugeye versions which are even slower than all the others.
I find it laughable that there are so many people in obvious denial as to the limitations of their 'plastic fantastic'.
Face facts, these days, the Impreza is at best in the hot hatch category as regards outright speed.
26 October 2006, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by andythejock01wrx
You need to consider going on an anger management course mate !
Looks ****, goes ****.
26 October 2006, 12:39 PM
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Oh boy what have I started ?
I was not claiming anything other than a bit of disapointment I guess. That said, i have my car cos I find it fun and generally only drive 'fast' when I am on my own (i.e. no other cars around) - I am not generally into 'racing' on the road. However, I tried and failed...... lol
I was not claiming anything other than a bit of disapointment I guess. That said, i have my car cos I find it fun and generally only drive 'fast' when I am on my own (i.e. no other cars around) - I am not generally into 'racing' on the road. However, I tried and failed...... lol
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Originally Posted by markmarkymark
I can not comment on your particular case, but I have a MY06 STi PPP which was totally annihilated by T reg Fiat coupe (turbo). We both hit some dual carriage way at the same time and I had every intention of ‘pushing him over’ so I could overtake. He had none of it – left me for dust….
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Originally Posted by BigStu
My previous motor was a Fiat Coupe 20v Turbo. From a standing start, the scooby would leave a coupe standing (due to lack of traction). However, rolling start, its a completely different story.
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26 October 2006, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Torpid
I would if I was angry but I'm not. Just stating the truth as I see it in response to the question 'is my bug a slug'.
Looks ****, goes ****.
Looks ****, goes ****.
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26 October 2006, 12:42 PM
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I still think you need to compare the WRX / STi to other cars by looking at all factors rather than outright performance (like cost/BHP, safety, space, and so on). Some pocket rockets might be 'as fast' nowerdays but you can not do what I am going to do later this afternoon (which is load the boot up with turf (unless you have a very small garden)
26 October 2006, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BigStu
My previous motor was a Fiat Coupe 20v Turbo. From a standing start, the scooby would leave a coupe standing (due to lack of traction). However, rolling start, its a completely different story.
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Audi S8 is an impressive car. 355bhp I believe. Some of that will be absorbed by its 1730kg weight of course. Good car though.
True that std imprezas aren't mindblowing, but they're good for the price. Note the 4wd also.
I reckon an appropriately modded Scoob will beat your S8 easily enough on the twisties. And it'll have cost a fair bit less.
True that std imprezas aren't mindblowing, but they're good for the price. Note the 4wd also.
I reckon an appropriately modded Scoob will beat your S8 easily enough on the twisties. And it'll have cost a fair bit less.
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Originally Posted by markmarkymark
I still think you need to compare the WRX / STi to other cars by looking at all factors rather than outright performance (like cost/BHP, safety, space, and so on). Some pocket rockets might be 'as fast' nowerdays but you can not do what I am going to do later this afternoon (which is load the boot up with turf (unless you have a very small garden)
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Originally Posted by andythejock01wrx
Audi S8 is an impressive car. 355bhp I believe. Some of that will be absorbed by its 1730kg weight of course. Good car though.
True that std imprezas aren't mindblowing, but they're good for the price.
I reckon an appropriately modded Scoob will beat your S8 easily enough on the twisties. And it'll have cots a fair bit less.
True that std imprezas aren't mindblowing, but they're good for the price.
I reckon an appropriately modded Scoob will beat your S8 easily enough on the twisties. And it'll have cots a fair bit less.
As for the cost issue I don't think this is about cost, although I'd argue a 20 grand S8 offers far more than a 20 grand Impreza.
26 October 2006, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Torpid
A Focus ST is not only faster than a bugeye (saloon or wagon) it also has more bootspace.
26 October 2006, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Torpid
A debadged S8 and I've owned a couple of Subarus so I have experience of both.
In terms of decently fast cars the Impreza is nowhere unless very heavily modded. What I found my Impreza's good at was low speed stuff, upto 70 or so and in greasy, marginal conditions. Of course I never owned one of the **** poor fugly bugeye versions which are even slower than all the others.
I find it laughable that there are so many people in obvious denial as to the limitations of their 'plastic fantastic'.
Face facts, these days, the Impreza is at best in the hot hatch category as regards outright speed.
In terms of decently fast cars the Impreza is nowhere unless very heavily modded. What I found my Impreza's good at was low speed stuff, upto 70 or so and in greasy, marginal conditions. Of course I never owned one of the **** poor fugly bugeye versions which are even slower than all the others.
I find it laughable that there are so many people in obvious denial as to the limitations of their 'plastic fantastic'.
Face facts, these days, the Impreza is at best in the hot hatch category as regards outright speed.
Ill spend a **** load on a porsche and go on some ****ty s8 forum and go f-ing s8 are crap look at my porsche. your s8 is just an excuse for your small ****.
is it de-badged so people can go oohh is that an a8. then small **** says "no actually it an s8 de-badged"
f-ing *** head.
26 October 2006, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Torpid
It's well documented on here that an unmodified Fiat 20V Coupe Turbo is considerably faster than an unmodified Impreza when rolling. Hardly a surprise is it, as I'm sure at least some of you must have noticed your cars don't exactly accelerate hard past 70.
Mine doesn't even get going until i get past 70
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