Legal Eagle

According to the D for T, in the medium sized car category, the car which is the least safest in respect of risk of injury to drivers involved in a two-car accident is...
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...the pre-1999 Subaru Impreza with a score of 8% (of drivers fatally or seriously injured 2000 - 2004) compared to 2% for the Jaguar X-Type.

The overall safest is the Toyota Land Cruiser (1%) and at the other end is the pre-2000 Rover Mini with a score of 14%. Apparently, driver behaviour is not taken into account, just the results of their accidents.

Discuss

wrxseeker

iTrader: (1)

Are you sure you mean pre 1991 Impreza's ???

Legal Eagle

My very abbreviated precis is from today's edition of The Times. It quotes information taken, it says, from the Dept for Transport. I presume they mean the pre-1999 model as that's what they say.

I simply can't copy-type!

stevebennett

doesnt mean f.uck all with out them stating there assumptions and the way that they have calculated this..

are these figures quoted been factoed down to a base level? i.e number of accidents per 1000?? or have they taken into acount the total numbers of these vehicles on the road.

as usual the DfT have publish ambiguous statistis that muppets of parliment can spin which ever way they want to.

stevebennett

Also need to be more precise if this is a single vehicle accident or a multi vehicle accident, age bands, type of roads (M-Way, A, B, Rural unclassified Road) etc.

Single vehicle accidents are usually loss of control and hit something hard such as a tree etc.

wrxseeker

iTrader: (1)

Most probably pre 2001 - ie Classic

s70rjw

iTrader: (2)

97.342% of statistics are made up anyway

F1 CJE UK

iTrader: (8)

Apart from that one

Sweepickit

I think there is a clue in the bit that says two vehicle accident!
As my 95 classic has no ABS, no airbags and is pushing close to 300 bhp, and the fact that the front is a very weak crumple zone I can imagine not coming off too well in a high speed collision with another vehicle. Drive within the limits of your own capabilities, avoid all the other tossers out there on the road, and if you must crash, don't hit a Volvo.

ricardo

Since these are two-vehicle accidents there are two main types where you tend to die - a head-on during overtaking, and a side-on at a junction. I'd hazard a guess that the Scoob is used in overtaking a bit more than some cars, so the impact speed will tend to be higher if it all goes pear-shaped.

IMHO all it shows is that the people in Scoobs were travelling faster when they had their accident. The Classics being more and more in the hands of younger drivers doesn't help (flame suit at the ready).

As for the old Mini, well that's just lethal anyway, especially if it gets hit by a Land Cruiser...

Brit_in_Japan

Statistics needs to be handled with care. If all accidents were at identical speeds and collided with identical objects, then yes it would be significant. But it's not beyond the realms of reason to think that Imprezas are driven faster than average, and hence when an accident does occur, for whatever reason, more energy is involved and hence risk of injury is greater. For a like-for-like test, I would expect Imprezas of that vintage to be safer than average due to the strength of the shell.

Over the years you can also find stats which point to the XJ Jag being the safest (heavy and long bonnets) with SUV's being less safe than average due to poorer primary safety (high centre of gravity leading to poorer road holding, more likelyhood of rolling).

Statistics - Handle with care !

PaulC72

Things like this need to be taken with a pince of salt.

Although
makes a valid point that and artics

scoobfan

If I'm gunna die, I'll die in me scoob !!

Rob

scoobfan

Oh, and that's a pinch of salt !

Rob