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Looking for a bit of advice from everyone. I'm looking at buying either an Evo IX or MY05 STi as a short term (month tops) car and want the most desirable car that will sell reasonably quickly.

Is the MY05 Spec C worth more than a UK MY05 STi and is it easier or more difficult to sell something like the Spec C which is pretty specialised.
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I ooubt any Subaru will sell quickly unless its for a really low price.
TBH an Impreza would be the last car i would buy for a short term run as they can take an age to sell on.
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Its a more desireable car but the market is less though they do hold their value better (considerably better) than a uk STi, quite alot of people wont be able to get insured on them or they will have a higher premium (age dependent).
Realistically if your only keeping it months, buy a uk STi.

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evo's are just as hard to shift in my opinion,i personally think subaru's hold there value better then evo's nowdays.

Just sold a corker of a gt myself fully loaded with 10k's mods chap is coming from malta next week.
And if you want somthing that will holds it's value then you should by my MY06 spec c type ra as theres only two in the country
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Originally Posted by 365
Looking for a bit of advice from everyone. I'm looking at buying either an Evo IX or MY05 STi as a short term (month tops) car and want the most desirable car that will sell reasonably quickly.

Is the MY05 Spec C worth more than a UK MY05 STi and is it easier or more difficult to sell something like the Spec C which is pretty specialised.
are you trying to build up the biggest portfolio of evo's and scoobies mate?

if you sold on the white one as it wasn't quick enough for you, personally i'd go for the spec c. if only for the higher bhp and because it's different.

agree you will have a more limited market when you come to sell though.

either way someone will have a good deal in about a months time
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I know, I know... I keep buying Lancers and STi's then I decide they're too extreme for UK's roads (they make me drive like a eighteen year old) and sell them, then I miss them and I'm as miserable as sin so buy another. I've had two STi's and two FQ-340's in ten months!!! I'm going to Scotland in October on holiday and fancy another car instead of my 306 diesel!

What's the market value of a 05 reg Spec C?
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Originally Posted by hoskib
are you trying to build up the biggest portfolio of evo's and scoobies mate?

if you sold on the white one as it wasn't quick enough for you, personally i'd go for the spec c. if only for the higher bhp and because it's different.

agree you will have a more limited market when you come to sell though.

either way someone will have a good deal in about a months time
I'm only going for a Spec C because you can't find a white UK car. How's the car going?

The best car I've had Impreza or Lancer, was my first STi with TSL 333 kit so buying a 03/04 car and spending a few quid sticking the same kit on it is an option.

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Originally Posted by juggers
evo's are just as hard to shift in my opinion,i personally think subaru's hold there value better then evo's nowdays.

Just sold a corker of a gt myself fully loaded with 10k's mods chap is coming from malta next week.
And if you want somthing that will holds it's value then you should by my MY06 spec c type ra as theres only two in the country
I like the ride (not the handling) of the Evo a lot better to be honest and I did try and buy the white GT on Lancer register but hesitated for half a day and someone else bought it. The UK STi's are cheap at the moment but I've read so many great things about the Spec C I fancy having a go at one. I'm happy to blow a grand for owning it for a month (cheap car rental) I'm not looking to make a profit, I just don't want hassle of Autotrader etc..
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You must be nuts to buy an Evo or Sti and keep it just for a month! The depreciation will be horrendous. Also buyers will be suspicious of you wanting rid after a month making it harder still to buy.
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Originally Posted by SPEN555
You must be nuts to buy an Evo or Sti and keep it just for a month! The depreciation will be horrendous. Also buyers will be suspicious of you wanting rid after a month making it harder still to buy.
Yeah, people are too suspicious these days. Like I said above, if I lose a grand it's cheap car rental for this kind of car.
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Mate,put the money in the bank for a month,you will earn money instead of lose it,and you will save in hairloss when you come to sell it.
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Originally Posted by st3v3
Mate,put the money in the bank for a month,you will earn money instead of lose it,and you will save in hairloss when you come to sell it.
Shall I get a pipe and slippers as well

Sticking the money in the bank isn't going to make for an exciting blast in the Scottish Highlands in October. I've noticed that when I don't have a car like this i don't go out as much. I know this may sound daft but owning these cars has a positive effect on you mentally, certainly if you're heading towards your forties like me, it makes me feel (and sadly act) twenty years younger.
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Originally Posted by 365
Shall I get a pipe and slippers as well

Sticking the money in the bank isn't going to make for an exciting blast in the Scottish Highlands in October. I've noticed that when I don't have a car like this i don't go out as much. I know this may sound daft but owning these cars has a positive effect on you mentally, certainly if you're heading towards your forties like me, it makes me feel (and sadly act) twenty years younger.
Me too, which make me act like a 6 year old
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the cars going fine mate still enjoying it and changing a few essential bits (stereo and b/box) getting to the stage you were at though, the cars crying out to be remaped but i'm not gonna lose the warrenty and i'm not gonna blow £1500 on the PPP!

just have to keep doing the little things until the warrenty runs out

to maybe keep the interest running to about 6 weeks( ) i'd get the best 'out of the box' car you can get. you've done the 333 route so why not try something else?

enjoy
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Originally Posted by 365
I know, I know... I keep buying Lancers and STi's then I decide they're too extreme for UK's roads (they make me drive like a eighteen year old) and sell them, then I miss them and I'm as miserable as sin so buy another. I've had two STi's and two FQ-340's in ten months!!! I'm going to Scotland in October on holiday and fancy another car instead of my 306 diesel!

What's the market value of a 05 reg Spec C?
Just remember there's not so many shell garages up here and even more so the further north you go. If you're an v-power fan.

How do you compare the STi and FQ340?
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Originally Posted by hoskib
are you trying to build up the biggest portfolio of evo's and scoobies mate?

if you sold on the white one as it wasn't quick enough for you, personally i'd go for the spec c. if only for the higher bhp and because it's different.

agree you will have a more limited market when you come to sell though.

either way someone will have a good deal in about a months time
I got the TSL333 last year. Cracking car - got a good deal!
I would go for a 05 STI PPP. The 05 suspension revisions are worth it. Or you could buy mine back and I will get the 05.
Cheers

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Originally Posted by Stevie_h
I got the TSL333 last year. Cracking car - got a good deal!
I would go for a 05 STI PPP. The 05 suspension revisions are worth it. Or you could buy mine back and I will get the 05.
Cheers

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The TSL car was the best of them all for all round performance. The FQ-340's were faster and more comfortable but they were too sterile and just didn't give you feedback. I had a beautiful MY05 STi in white (UK car) but without the PPP or other mods it didn't do anything for me.
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Originally Posted by GazTheHat
Just remember there's not so many shell garages up here and even more so the further north you go. If you're an v-power fan.

How do you compare the STi and FQ340?


How did the STi's compare to the FQ-340's, well the Mitsubishi is the best car to live with as a daily driver but they were MR's so had the Bilstein suspension which is a little softer, the performance is simply awesome even compared to the TSL and it handles like nothing else BUT it gives little in way of driver feedback and always left me thinking am I driving this or is it driving me and the AYC does some pretty wacky things if you dare to push it too hard. The TSL car with Eibachs and geometry mods was the best driving experience, it dug in to corners at the rear and was giving feedback all the time and coupled with a really responsive map was a fantastic car, a little too hard as a daily driver though when compared to the Lancer. The standard STi was a good start, it looked beautiful in white but it was neither fast nor comfortable, it needed work but had a two year warranty left which I didn't want to give up. Having listened to what people say about the Spec C being a bit specialised and maybe slow to sell, I'm edgeing towards an Evo IX FQ-340, the standard STi with PPP just isn't what it should be, it's got too may compromises, the Lancer does as well but it's very comfortable when you're pottering but blisteringly fast when you really push it. If the Lancer IX GT's weren't so overpriced that would probably be the best option.

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Originally Posted by 365
The TSL car was the best of them all for all round performance. The FQ-340's were faster and more comfortable but they were too sterile and just didn't give you feedback. I had a beautiful MY05 STi in white (UK car) but without the PPP or other mods it didn't do anything for me.
Very suprised you didnt like the MY05! Oh well, horses for courses i suppose. Can't believe you have had an evo and Scoob since you sold me the STI, sounds like you have an addiction. I would see a doctor if i was you!

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Originally Posted by Stevie_h
Very suprised you didnt like the MY05! Oh well, horses for courses i suppose. Can't believe you have had an evo and Scoob since you sold me the STI, sounds like you have an addiction. I would see a doctor if i was you!

ste
I've had two FQ-340's and and 05 STi since I sold you mine. I can't live with them, can't live without them, problem is every car other than some German or Italian exotica is an anti climax after the STi and Lancer. I went to buy a Megane Renaultsport 225 two weeks ago, got to the showroom and walked out while we were waiting for the salesman, DULL.

I didn't not like the 05 car, it just didn't compare well to the Lancer (which to be fair it shouldn't). Do you still prefer the 05 to the TSL car?
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Originally Posted by 365
How did the STi's compare to the FQ-340's, well the Mitsubishi is the best car to live with as a daily driver but they were MR's so had the Bilstein suspension which is a little softer, the performance is simply awesome even compared to the TSL and it handles like nothing else BUT it gives little in way of driver feedback and always left me thinking am I driving this or is it driving me and the AYC does some pretty wacky things if you dare to push it too hard. The TSL car with Eibachs and geometry mods was the best driving experience, it dug in to corners at the rear and was giving feedback all the time and coupled with a really responsive map was a fantastic car, a little too hard as a daily driver though when compared to the Lancer. The standard STi was a good start, it looked beautiful in white but it was neither fast nor comfortable, it needed work but had a two year warranty left which I didn't want to give up. Having listened to what people say about the Spec C being a bit specialised and maybe slow to sell, I'm edgeing towards an Evo IX FQ-340, the standard STi with PPP just isn't what it should be, it's got too may compromises, the Lancer does as well but it's very comfortable when you're pottering but blisteringly fast when you really push it. If the Lancer IX GT's weren't so overpriced that would probably be the best option.
The STI you sold me does not have eibachs, just prodrive springs! I know what you mean about the ride comfort, i solved it(accidently) by fitting Whiteline ARB and droplinks. Setting the ARB to its softest setting improves the ride dramatically, although it introduces a little body roll. Another advantage was there was a lot more feedback through the steering.

I can see why you didnt like the 05 if you are not a fan of electronic aids. The 03 definatley has a mechanical feel to it - with regards to handling and steering.

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Originally Posted by 365
I've had two FQ-340's and and 05 STi since I sold you mine. I can't live with them, can't live without them, problem is every car other than some German or Italian exotica is an anti climax after the STi and Lancer. I went to buy a Megane Renaultsport 225 two weeks ago, got to the showroom and walked out while we were waiting for the salesman, DULL.

I didn't not like the 05 car, it just didn't compare well to the Lancer (which to be fair it shouldn't). Do you still prefer the 05 to the TSL car?
In terms of suspension, yes. I like the feel of the car. The new setup + DCCD-A i find inspires a more confidence, but the ride is harsh. Maybe prodrive springs would solve this?

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What about a Type 25 - Spec C
2003 -- 8300 miles

See for sale section..!!

Sorry to hijack the post , but I feel it's topical.

Regards

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Originally Posted by shipseys
What about a Type 25 - Spec C
2003 -- 8300 miles

See for sale section..!!

Sorry to hijack the post , but I feel it's topical.

Regards

Scott
Scott, while it's not in your sales thread I'll say what I thought when I read your ad. I'd take the £19k offer and run like the wind. I THINK you will struggle to get your price for an 03 car no matter what model it is. I know it's not a Type 25 but someone sent me a PM last night offering me a MY05 Spec C for £16,500.
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fair enough..thx for the input!
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Originally Posted by Stevie_h
The STI you sold me does not have eibachs, just prodrive springs! I know what you mean about the ride comfort, i solved it(accidently) by fitting Whiteline ARB and droplinks. Setting the ARB to its softest setting improves the ride dramatically, although it introduces a little body roll. Another advantage was there was a lot more feedback through the steering.

I can see why you didnt like the 05 if you are not a fan of electronic aids. The 03 definatley has a mechanical feel to it - with regards to handling and steering.

ste
Ste, the Prodrive springs are made by Eibach, its just that a Prodrive badge means they can charge more because they must be more special
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Originally Posted by 365
How did the STi's compare to the FQ-340's, well the Mitsubishi is the best car to live with as a daily driver but they were MR's so had the Bilstein suspension which is a little softer, the performance is simply awesome even compared to the TSL and it handles like nothing else BUT it gives little in way of driver feedback and always left me thinking am I driving this or is it driving me and the AYC does some pretty wacky things if you dare to push it too hard. The TSL car with Eibachs and geometry mods was the best driving experience, it dug in to corners at the rear and was giving feedback all the time and coupled with a really responsive map was a fantastic car, a little too hard as a daily driver though when compared to the Lancer. The standard STi was a good start, it looked beautiful in white but it was neither fast nor comfortable, it needed work but had a two year warranty left which I didn't want to give up. Having listened to what people say about the Spec C being a bit specialised and maybe slow to sell, I'm edgeing towards an Evo IX FQ-340, the standard STi with PPP just isn't what it should be, it's got too may compromises, the Lancer does as well but it's very comfortable when you're pottering but blisteringly fast when you really push it. If the Lancer IX GT's weren't so overpriced that would probably be the best option.
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