Subaru/IM doing badly?
23 April 2006, 09:35 PM
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Subaru/IM doing badly?
Obviously not.
http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/art...145221,00.html
Makes the £5000 I saved going to a supermarket all that much sweeter.
A fair few Scooby owners on here will have subsidised his rise up the list no doubt.
The British car industry may have been rocked by the closure of Peugeot’s Ryton factory but it is boom time for car dealers. They have shot up the latest Sunday Times Rich List as a raft of sales, takeover bids and mergers have boosted the value of dealerships.
Topping the list of the most wealthy dealers is Robert Edmiston of IM Group, a Birmingham-based car distribution business, who has an estimated fortune of £410m (up from £380m last year), followed by Sir Arnold Clark, a Glasgow-based dealer, on £385m (up from £365m), Jack Tordoff, owner of the dealership JCT600, on £172m (an increase of £50m on the previous year) and Sir Peter Vardy, who recently sold his Reg Vardy dealerships and now has a personal fortune estimated at £150m.
Topping the list of the most wealthy dealers is Robert Edmiston of IM Group, a Birmingham-based car distribution business, who has an estimated fortune of £410m (up from £380m last year), followed by Sir Arnold Clark, a Glasgow-based dealer, on £385m (up from £365m), Jack Tordoff, owner of the dealership JCT600, on £172m (an increase of £50m on the previous year) and Sir Peter Vardy, who recently sold his Reg Vardy dealerships and now has a personal fortune estimated at £150m.
Makes the £5000 I saved going to a supermarket all that much sweeter.
A fair few Scooby owners on here will have subsidised his rise up the list no doubt.
23 April 2006, 09:51 PM
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Michael Dell set up his business about the same time I did mine. He's worth hundreds of millions of $ and I'm not. Good luck to the likes of him and the IM bloke. I won't lose any sleep.
23 April 2006, 10:00 PM
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I think you've both missed my point, and it's not about someone being on the rich list.
It's the fact that some on here carry on about the Scoobys demise in the UK whereas plainly IM are not in any position to be worried.
It also explains why Subaru dealers couldn't care less about their customers and won't move on price or provide a good level of service.
And it shows what sort of company IM are when they refuse to honour Subarus international warranties.
It basically says to me that they are ripping off customers. You have a niche dealer being the richest, whereas I would expect it to be a Vauxhall/Ford/Nissan/Toyota dealer chain whose volumes are much bigger.
It's the fact that some on here carry on about the Scoobys demise in the UK whereas plainly IM are not in any position to be worried.
It also explains why Subaru dealers couldn't care less about their customers and won't move on price or provide a good level of service.
And it shows what sort of company IM are when they refuse to honour Subarus international warranties.
It basically says to me that they are ripping off customers. You have a niche dealer being the richest, whereas I would expect it to be a Vauxhall/Ford/Nissan/Toyota dealer chain whose volumes are much bigger.
23 April 2006, 10:03 PM
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niche?
IM do more than just scoobys.
there were only just over 8000 subarus of all models sold in the uk last year (figure from autocar)
doubt he made his fortune from that few scoobys
IM do more than just scoobys.
there were only just over 8000 subarus of all models sold in the uk last year (figure from autocar)
doubt he made his fortune from that few scoobys
23 April 2006, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by scarey
niche?
IM do more than just scoobys.
there were only just over 8000 subarus of all models sold in the uk last year (figure from autocar)
doubt he made his fortune from that few scoobys
IM do more than just scoobys.
there were only just over 8000 subarus of all models sold in the uk last year (figure from autocar)
doubt he made his fortune from that few scoobys
Compared to Ford which sells 30,000 a month.
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23 April 2006, 10:06 PM
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It also explains why Subaru dealers couldn't care less about their customers and won't move on price or provide a good level of service.
23 April 2006, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by KiwiGTI
No, I haven't, but I have experience of at least 4 and they have been terrible.
How IS that clapped out old heap of crap that you bought and won't run??
You know, the car you bought from a Supermarket ... that tacky Import!?
Running now, is it? Or is it still awaiting a UK dealer to fix it before you buy and proclaim a big saving??
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23 April 2006, 10:31 PM
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Running now, is it? Or is it still awaiting a UK dealer to fix it before you buy and proclaim a big saving??
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The worrying thing is that it is at a UK dealer - their competency is the luck of the draw it seems.
23 April 2006, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by KiwiGTI
I don't know yet, but i may be the one "running" away from the sale.
The worrying thing is that it is at a UK dealer - their competency is the luck of the draw it seems.
The worrying thing is that it is at a UK dealer - their competency is the luck of the draw it seems.
Quite why you are considering buying a lemon is beyond me - at whatever price!?
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23 April 2006, 10:40 PM
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I've had 7 new Scoobs, all from UK dealers, and never had any hassles - on delivery or otherwise. Almost 300,000 hassle free miles now.
Tough luck with your car Kiwi. Hope you get it sorted soon - honestly.
Cheers
PS Pete does sort of have a point however...
Tough luck with your car Kiwi. Hope you get it sorted soon - honestly.
Cheers
PS Pete does sort of have a point however...
23 April 2006, 10:48 PM
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I think Subaru cars in general are good value for money. Just wish IM would bring in some of the proper Daihatsus line the Boon X$ so I can get rid of the Scoob and get something even better !
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23 April 2006, 11:27 PM
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Genuine Parts...that's where they are making the ££££. Oh and not to mention the £5K mark up on new cars compared to the equivelent EU version - which vitually is the same car.
Surprising? Not really - if people pay it, they'll charge it.
And parts have you screwed over as no major alternative supplier is interested - with it being such a minority car to be worth catering for.
Surprising? Not really - if people pay it, they'll charge it.
And parts have you screwed over as no major alternative supplier is interested - with it being such a minority car to be worth catering for.
24 April 2006, 12:50 AM
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He makes his money by importing Scooby's. Isuzu's and Daihatsu's.
Paid himself £12 million last year for doing so too.
Still, it seems he does a lot for disadvantaged children, so fair play to him.
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Which means even though he is rolling in it, he shown a greater generosity of spirit than this bitter and twisted old tosser. What a ****
Paid himself £12 million last year for doing so too.
Still, it seems he does a lot for disadvantaged children, so fair play to him.
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Ha Ha Ha .... the car supermarket can't fix it for you then??? Ha Ha Ha!!
24 April 2006, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by AllanB
I think Subaru cars in general are good value for money. Just wish IM would bring in some of the proper Daihatsus line the Boon X$ so I can get rid of the Scoob and get something even better !
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I had an Avanzato for several years and did 70,000 smiley miles in it
Used to see off most cars up to motorway speeds.......
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24 April 2006, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by gubby
Still, it seems he does a lot for disadvantaged children, so fair play to him
http://extras.timesonline.co.uk/pdfs...ivingindex.pdf
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