330/340bhp newage, Are you happy with yours?
30 March 2006, 09:48 PM
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330/340bhp newage, Are you happy with yours?
Hey guys
Im due to have my car mapped soon and ive been driving myself mad with mods etc recently.
If i have just a full exhaust, fuel pump and panel filter ive been told i should be around 330/340bhp.
Are you happy with yours, is there anything you wish you did different before mapping?
Bottom line is im a bit worried that im still gonna think its slow
Thanks for your time.
Im due to have my car mapped soon and ive been driving myself mad with mods etc recently.
If i have just a full exhaust, fuel pump and panel filter ive been told i should be around 330/340bhp.
Are you happy with yours, is there anything you wish you did different before mapping?
Bottom line is im a bit worried that im still gonna think its slow
Thanks for your time.
30 March 2006, 09:50 PM
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ive just bought a decat, and im gna book the car in for a remap next week but before hand i wanna know if theres anything else i should fit before the remap, 1000 budget,,oh and where do i get the best remap,im in west london..
MY05 sti,,,,
MY05 sti,,,,
But its good fun, 
31 March 2006, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by frayz
Hey guys
Im due to have my car mapped soon and ive been driving myself mad with mods etc recently.
If i have just a full exhaust, fuel pump and panel filter ive been told i should be around 330/340bhp.
Are you happy with yours, is there anything you wish you did different before mapping?
Bottom line is im a bit worried that im still gonna think its slow
Thanks for your time.
Im due to have my car mapped soon and ive been driving myself mad with mods etc recently.
If i have just a full exhaust, fuel pump and panel filter ive been told i should be around 330/340bhp.
Are you happy with yours, is there anything you wish you did different before mapping?
Bottom line is im a bit worried that im still gonna think its slow
Thanks for your time.
I've recently had my STi PPP re-mapped by TSL (Richard Bulmer) and it's a great improvement but I'll resist guessing bhp and torque until a RR session comes along.
In terms of your Cossie - my son had a 4x4 Sapphire with 300bhp and a higher lbft torque figure (Power Engineering) and in top gear would leave a Scoob dead. If it's torque you want get an EVO or go back to the Cossie! He's had STiPPP but now has an EVO IX 320- now that's quick!
JohnD
31 March 2006, 08:04 AM
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I've managed 340bhp with 305 lbft an the difference was startling at first.....
You can really notice the torque with that constant feeling of being pushed into the back seat but after a few months you get used to it and you start thinking,"is there something wrong with it??"
But thats the tuning bug.....
You can really notice the torque with that constant feeling of being pushed into the back seat but after a few months you get used to it and you start thinking,"is there something wrong with it??"
But thats the tuning bug.....
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31 March 2006, 08:09 AM
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I'm glad i'm not alone with the feeling that the car is slower or something is wrong with it !, mine is a MY03 STI with PPP, which produced 309 bhp on the RR.
I want to do the WRC-tech package as it massively increases torque as well as bhp, but need to get the front brakes done first !
It would be good to feel as though the car is pulling when in 4th & 5th.
Malc
I want to do the WRC-tech package as it massively increases torque as well as bhp, but need to get the front brakes done first !
It would be good to feel as though the car is pulling when in 4th & 5th.
Malc
31 March 2006, 08:20 AM
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4th gear for me is a no go as it made ++++ mph when mapping......but the pull is crazy.....
I'd be carefull of rr's though as I got mine rr before it was mapped and it was 271....then when I stuck it on another set of rr BEFORE IT WAS MAPPED it produced 319 out the blocks.....
I'd be carefull of rr's though as I got mine rr before it was mapped and it was 271....then when I stuck it on another set of rr BEFORE IT WAS MAPPED it produced 319 out the blocks.....
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31 March 2006, 11:26 AM
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The trouble with ex-cossie owners is that they are only bothered in straight line power and big bhp figures..... I know, I used to be one! 
A newage UK STI with PPP, uprated anti-roll bars, solid drop links, anti-lift kit, geometry setup and decent suspension is very quick. Ok... perhaps not straight line quick, but around B roads and through the twisties they can be.
People look at increasing BHP, more than setting the car up correctly and learning how to drive it first.
My advice and if you have the money..... get the above handling mods done at the same time and your car WILL BE transformed.
Regards,
Shaun.
A newage UK STI with PPP, uprated anti-roll bars, solid drop links, anti-lift kit, geometry setup and decent suspension is very quick. Ok... perhaps not straight line quick, but around B roads and through the twisties they can be.
People look at increasing BHP, more than setting the car up correctly and learning how to drive it first.
My advice and if you have the money..... get the above handling mods done at the same time and your car WILL BE transformed.
Regards,
Shaun.
31 March 2006, 12:00 PM
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sti8 with 350/345 here, and very happy Just need to sort the suspension out now, with ast's, and I'll be a pig in s*** happy
As simon says, get handling and driver training before or at the same time to reap the full benefits of your power upgrades
Just need to sort the suspension out now, with ast's, and I'll be a pig in s*** happy As simon says, get handling and driver training before or at the same time to reap the full benefits of your power upgrades
31 March 2006, 02:15 PM
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You'll always want more.
350bhp is MORE than adequate for the road. A car with this power output of a Scoobies weight will offer serious performance. There comes a point where the law of diminishing returns starts to come into effect for road use.
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350bhp is MORE than adequate for the road. A car with this power output of a Scoobies weight will offer serious performance. There comes a point where the law of diminishing returns starts to come into effect for road use.
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31 March 2006, 02:24 PM
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I have a STI8 with full decat full custom zorst fuel pump STI panel filter and a remapped @ prosport by Richard Bulmer and Pete who owns Prosport and come out with 343bhp and 339lbft.
I had the work done 3 months ago and it is still making me smile.
I have a mate who has an STI9 and he also still owns a 400bhp cossie and he say my scoob is well quicker and the power delivery is mentel.
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It all depends who maps the car for you i think.
There had mine running at 360bhp but brought it back as i use the car everyday and i need to get some fuel economy out of it.
Get it done but make sure you trust the mapper.
I had the work done 3 months ago and it is still making me smile.
I have a mate who has an STI9 and he also still owns a 400bhp cossie and he say my scoob is well quicker and the power delivery is mentel.
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It all depends who maps the car for you i think.
There had mine running at 360bhp but brought it back as i use the car everyday and i need to get some fuel economy out of it.
Get it done but make sure you trust the mapper.
31 March 2006, 02:30 PM
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356bhp 333ftlbs here and i am really pleased with how the car feels and drives on the road. Just had a new clutch and a 4.6kilo flywheel, by far the best mod i've done! The responsiveness and pick up is so vastly improved it really has confirmed that it is the most fun you can have with your cloths on 
A remap alone will make the car much more driveable and fun, so get on with the mods and open yourself to a world of entertainment
A remap alone will make the car much more driveable and fun, so get on with the mods and open yourself to a world of entertainment
31 March 2006, 02:47 PM
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Only 265PS from my 03 WRX PPP, but stays glued to the @r$es of many much more powerful cars. A combination of a well set up car (AST's, Whiteline goodies and a geo set-up by the guy that does Williams F1 cars 
) and a quite well trained driver. I can only echo what Shaun said about having the car set up correctly, as power is nothing without control (cliché 
) as I proved on a Dales run when a 420bhp classic couldn't keep up.
Yes Chris, you can have my AST's if my car doesn't sell soon
) and a quite well trained driver. I can only echo what Shaun said about having the car set up correctly, as power is nothing without control (cliché ) as I proved on a Dales run when a 420bhp classic couldn't keep up.Yes Chris, you can have my AST's if my car doesn't sell soon
31 March 2006, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by corradoboy
Only 265PS from my 03 WRX PPP, but stays glued to the @r$es of many much more powerful cars. A combination of a well set up car (AST's, Whiteline goodies and a geo set-up by the guy that does Williams F1 cars ) and a quite well trained driver. I can only echo what Shaun said about having the car set up correctly, as power is nothing without control (cliché ) as I proved on a Dales run when a 420bhp classic couldn't keep up.
Yes Chris, you can have my AST's if my car doesn't sell soon
) and a quite well trained driver. I can only echo what Shaun said about having the car set up correctly, as power is nothing without control (cliché ) as I proved on a Dales run when a 420bhp classic couldn't keep up.Yes Chris, you can have my AST's if my car doesn't sell soon
Well said, mine has had £££££££spent on engine mods (330bhp) but has also had 18's with Toyo Proxys fitted, prodrive springs, fron & rear strut braces and a fast road geometry set up. Straight line speed is good but it is safer if it handles properly as well,
31 March 2006, 04:45 PM
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John D, i was meaning with mapping too mate, sorry.
Dont get me wrong guys, it handles, ive done the brakes with a full tar ox setup, ive got a whiteline adj rear ARB, uprated mounts and billet droplinks on their way.
I plan to lower it although only on prodrive springs, get an Anti lift kit and a geometry setup.
I know the cars performance is about how it handles, my cossie was a 4x4, on Koni adjustables, strutbraces and fully polybushed. It handled REALLY well.
Ive watched track prepped 1600cc fiestas whip 400bhp cossies around a track and i know thw value of a propper handling and well setup car.
But im not talking about handling so much here, im more refering to the excitement of the car. I just dont find it exciting to drive.
The cossie was brutal in every gear, 100mph on full boost would pin you to the seat!!
The scoob feels just so boringly slow
Dont get me wrong guys, it handles, ive done the brakes with a full tar ox setup, ive got a whiteline adj rear ARB, uprated mounts and billet droplinks on their way.
I plan to lower it although only on prodrive springs, get an Anti lift kit and a geometry setup.
I know the cars performance is about how it handles, my cossie was a 4x4, on Koni adjustables, strutbraces and fully polybushed. It handled REALLY well.
Ive watched track prepped 1600cc fiestas whip 400bhp cossies around a track and i know thw value of a propper handling and well setup car.
But im not talking about handling so much here, im more refering to the excitement of the car. I just dont find it exciting to drive.
The cossie was brutal in every gear, 100mph on full boost would pin you to the seat!!
The scoob feels just so boringly slow
31 March 2006, 06:31 PM
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Frayz,
I moved from a 500bhp RS500 to a UK STi to what I have now. Ok, I fully appreciate it is a different car than what you have (mine is a Spec C) and has more power than what you are suggesting (360bhp ish), but it leaves my RS500 for dust in normal road driving.
Even a previous Escort Cossie I had with 340bhp/350lbft felt underwhelming compared to this car.
I'm sure a well setup UK Newage, would not be that far behind me.
Hol,
It's a long and painful process.....
But just a quick update:
1)The first hybrid twin scroll turbo is now on the car and over the next couple of weeks we will find out how this baby responds to a decent map and inlet mods (initial indications/tests are promising).
2)Competition 3 way adjustable, remote reservior shocks have just been fitted (gotta get that handling pin sharp!).
3)Header modification testing is also planned for early May.
I am afraid due to time constraints I doubt very much if this stage will be completed prior to ScoobyNet Live / ScoobyShootOut (which was the original finish timescale for Stage 2 Engine Mod's). But it will provide a good shakedown (especially for the handling circuit), and work will continue with further turbo's and looking at intercooling to complete this stage thereafter.
Regards,
Shaun.
I moved from a 500bhp RS500 to a UK STi to what I have now. Ok, I fully appreciate it is a different car than what you have (mine is a Spec C) and has more power than what you are suggesting (360bhp ish), but it leaves my RS500 for dust in normal road driving.
Even a previous Escort Cossie I had with 340bhp/350lbft felt underwhelming compared to this car.
I'm sure a well setup UK Newage, would not be that far behind me.
Hol,
It's a long and painful process.....
But just a quick update:
1)The first hybrid twin scroll turbo is now on the car and over the next couple of weeks we will find out how this baby responds to a decent map and inlet mods (initial indications/tests are promising).
2)Competition 3 way adjustable, remote reservior shocks have just been fitted (gotta get that handling pin sharp!).
3)Header modification testing is also planned for early May.
I am afraid due to time constraints I doubt very much if this stage will be completed prior to ScoobyNet Live / ScoobyShootOut (which was the original finish timescale for Stage 2 Engine Mod's). But it will provide a good shakedown (especially for the handling circuit), and work will continue with further turbo's and looking at intercooling to complete this stage thereafter.
Regards,
Shaun.
31 March 2006, 06:40 PM
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Just spent another load of money on my wrx taking it from 282BHP to 314 bhp feels like another new car all over again I've gone for driveability so it pulls a house down at low revs so happy for now
I AM NOT SPENDING ANY MORE MONEY ON THIS CAR
going to sit back, relax and enjoy
I've gone for driveability so it pulls a house down at low revs so happy for now I AM NOT SPENDING ANY MORE MONEY ON THIS CAR
going to sit back, relax and enjoy
31 March 2006, 06:52 PM
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i have tsl 333 with chargecooler on my sti8 type uk-as my friends keep telling me it is just spot on,i have modded brakes and suspension springs/ strutbraces/ droplinks and rear arb and might be tempted by ast mods but power wise i am happy...at moment.mate has 626 bhp skyline fast but not road useable and now broken requiring big money to rebuild!
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31 March 2006, 07:08 PM
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My '02 WRX is setting at 335hp/310lbft now but should be about 380hp in a few weeks... after that, I am done...... hmm that sounds familiar..... didn't I say that when I hit 280, 305 and then 335.....
31 March 2006, 08:13 PM
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wrx guys, what turbos are you using and how did you get the torque low down? I need a turbo change for more power but am worried about more lag.
When you say it pulls from low down how low are we talking?
Currently at 280/280 on an my03 with sti PPP downpipe center and a H+S up-pipe. Turbo, injectors etc etc is on the cards next.
Anything above 330 would be good, preferably a bit more but low down response is more important as I find it lags on some slow second gear corners near me but going for first is hard work.
I would rather have good response than huge power but I can't afford this.http://www.motorsportpartnership.com...3634&item=1266
What sort of low down torque is possible?
When you say it pulls from low down how low are we talking?
Currently at 280/280 on an my03 with sti PPP downpipe center and a H+S up-pipe. Turbo, injectors etc etc is on the cards next.
Anything above 330 would be good, preferably a bit more but low down response is more important as I find it lags on some slow second gear corners near me but going for first is hard work.
I would rather have good response than huge power but I can't afford this.http://www.motorsportpartnership.com...3634&item=1266
What sort of low down torque is possible?