crazylong

Hi,

Had my Type UK Sti (not PPP) 04 for a couple of months and well impressed. Its my first scoobie and I love it, only snag is I would like more power and driveability. I am looking at the above conversions, i realise it will void warranty etc, but you only live once!!!

Which of the above do you think I should go for, or should I keep mine for 12 months whilst saving for a type25?

Probably should have done a little more research before buying current model and looked harder for more power to start with, but once you have that test drive!!!

Whats the verdict???

Gutmann pug

I run a TSL333 car and think its terrific, much faster and more driveable.

Gary

ex-webby

Sell it and buy a JDM Twin Scroll STi..... if your after more power, it is the better base to start with imho.

Since thats probably out of the question I suggest you get in contact with both companies and try to organise a test drive of each conversion. I suspect they would be very similar.

But from what I have read from others, the increases acheived over the PPP would not appear to be worth the outlay if you already have the PPP..... may be worth asking around or perhaps those people will post on this thread.

Regards,
Shaun.

crazylong

Thanks for the guidance guys if anyone else has a view feel free

wakeboardar

you have already paid 2000 quid for the ppp at 305 bhp another 2600 for the tsl 333 which is not 100% sure to give you 333 seems a bit crazy to me

wwp8

i thought the wrc330 and the 333 pack does NOT require the ppp to be fitted on the car first

XRS

I don't think the guy has paid for PPP yet, so as Webby says try them both and and decide for yourself.

crazylong, whatever you do don't try a Type 25 yet - nothing else will be any good once you've driven one

p1doc

i drive tsl 333-much better than ppp more driveable less stuttery and more power, have not tried a wrc 330 but your best option would be to drive both t25 will just make you sad
there was a recent thread about someone who got a wrc ?350 on his sti -could be worth having a chat with him
martin

urbanmyth

WRC all the way

http://forums.sidc.co.uk/messageview...y&keyword1=wrc

Have a read.

I have yet to see a TSL get 333/333

Gutmann pug

Well mine made 329/320 and im not complaining.

Gary

crazylong

Just to larify I do not have PPP, cant see the point if you can get around 330bhp for the same money!

It has been suggested get the geometry set up correctly at the same time, what do you think??

p1doc

i take it that will be on their dyno
martin

my cossy

the tsl 333 pack is £2100 not £2600 i asked them last week and the ppp is £1900

ex-webby

CrazyLong,
Getting the geometry set and also the front and rear anti roll bars with an anti-lift kit, will give you arguably a quicker car (ok not in power wise, but certainly what you can do with it).

Regards,
Shaun.

specialx

3" De-cat down pipe £295 fitted
3" cat back system £375 fitted
Fuel pump £165 fitted
tek 3 £650
dyno time £150

Total £1635 + vat = £1921


You can be very naughty with upto 340!!


www.scoobyclinic.com

wrx bill

urbanmyth wat rr did u achive these figures

p1doc

wrc do rr before and after i think as they have to make sure your car is running well before they work on it
martin

jd5217

The car mentioned on SIDC is mine.

They do a before & after rr to give comparison figures.

I had a slight amended WRC package in between 330 & 350 as I already had a PPP car.

Before with PPP 294 bhp and after 341 bhp.

Works done were full 3" decat, cold air induction, dump valve, remap, anti-lift kit.

Good value & excellent service. The reason I disnt go down the 350 route was I will be adding futher mods to the car in future so didnt want to buy 2 intercoolers.

I hope this clarifies.

crazylong

Hi,

I am leaning towards the wrc with cold air induction taking the car to 340bhp, does anyone have any advice on getting a keen insurance quote?

Gutmann pug

What difference did the anti lift kit make? I have recommended one of these but like to know what they do for the car before I buy. I'm not the usual buy on hype and yeah its great comment type person either.

jd5217

Very pleased with anti-lift kit, stops the nose rising under power & therefore understeering. Needed with the extra power.

Just waiting to have rear arb fitted.

Had to change my insurance company locally with mods, shop around is my advise.
Alot of insurance companies are difficult with imprezas that are standard let alone modified versions.

Privelidge did a very good quote for me, but wanted to stay with local company.

Gutmann pug

So the anti lift kit only helps when powering your way out of a corner, it will not stop the car from understeering on the entry?

jd5217

Also had 4wla done & have prodrive springs fitted.

If understeer on entry now, it means I am going to fast for the corner. But I can get lift off oversteer. Lots of fun.

Dazza's-STi

if you have the PPP then to go for a 333 or something similar then all you should be paying is for a remap, this should be around the £600 mark including either doing it on a dyno or doing it with the car road rolling... any more and its a wast of $$$ simple...

Daz

ex-webby

Gutmann,
Reduces dive and lift under braking and acceleration.

I presume you've upgraded your ARB's and Drop Links?

Regards,
Shaun.

jd5217

Rear arb to go on a soon as there are some in UK.

Extg droplinks on STI8 are ok as solid metal.