WOTCHA GUYS!

OVERHEARD A BLOKE EXTOLING VIRTUES OF HIS CIVVY IN SAINSBRYS C/PRK TDAY , AGREED WITH MOST OF HIS FLOW ( REVTASTIC, GOODHANDLERS ETC, BUT HAD TO CHIME IN WHEN HE BADMOUTHED THE BUGEYE

REKONS STNDRD R CAN LIK WRX ON STRAITS?

ANY VIEWS?

Stop SHOUTING ....................

above 70 yes, from standstill, not a chance.

Adam

agreed...dont get me wrong b4 i turned into a scoobyholic iwas a honda nut

but how can u compare 2wd (or shud i say compete) normal aspiration vs 4wd turbo charged !!!??

No, it wouldn't, all things being equal (standard of driver, optimum gear changes, etc)
The bugeye is faster to 60... by a second. The CTR is about half a second faster to 100, as the bugeye's transmission losses take effect at the top end. So it isn't going to *lick* it on the straights, is it? They seem to be identical, performance-wise. But one of them is a Subaru, and as such, the owner has won first prize in the lottery of life.

After a quick search i found

Type R 15.3/96
02-03 WRX 14.5secs / 95mph

very close but you can see the type R has a higher terminal speed, the WRX will gain some off the line but looks as if it will loose out at higher speeds

all in all, not much in it.

http://www.fastsaloons.com/comparerace.php

ctr is a great car , but in real world situations, afront driver, aint as fast (stndrd) safe, as a 4wd, as for satisfaction.....the revvy nature of these vtec units are great, thats the only downside (part from fuel) with the wrx i can think of i.e performance is defo there, just seems a little clinical,(detached?) bear in mind this is the 1st tur8o ive had , so the lag needs to be addressed ....

I drove both a couple of years ago, and a number of other cars.

I bought the WRX.

tried a CTR before we bought our STi.

not for us. far to much road noise.

not quick enough for me....to much having to get into the VTEC range.

and imho not cheap enough at over 16k with no air con new ????

There are alot of cars out there for similar price as CTR. It's down to personal choice. I preferred the WRX over the CTR but that was based on a number of issues. Including torque with a few people in the car. CTR suffers alot with a load.

Had similar conversation with a mate recently except for one fact, his car was a 400bhp Rx7 with a single turbo conversion. No contest unfortunately.

Had a little play a few months back with a Civic Type R. My car is a standard MY01 WRX (bar a decent exhaust). I would agree with what has been said here. I was quicker through the gears, but top end the Type R overhauled me - seriously impressive car. Nice thumbs up from the driver too - all very friendly

The doc says that after traction is not an issue (from 2nd gear onwards) a CTR is quicker the a std WRX.

would agree that a civic type r once on the boil will be quicker than a std bugeye - trouble is you have to keep it on te boil

and a WRX can easily be tuned into a different beast all together which cant be said about a Type R

Here we go again >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

There is obviously a few worried people out there as the CTR topic keeps popping up. It goes to show how Honda have produced a standard vehicle remarkable close in performance as a standard subaru turbo.

My mate is having his new type R delievered on wednesday. When its run in we are going to compare both cars (a MY01 Wrx*) and see what we think.

We think they sound pretty evenly matched, absolutely no idea about the type R handling though.

I have seen a WRX tuned up and played around with and its a far different beast. ( chrissy you know who I mean )

Once I have driven it a bit and Richard has driven mine I will try and remember to post our unscientific perceptions.


*The engine is standard but the suspension is 'different'

I saw a programme on TV a few years back that compared the WRX, CTR and the Focus RS and timed them round a race track. CTR did beat the WRX but dont know about on the straights.

Wikkid nuff respect

I didnt understand any of what you said, even with you shouting i still couldnt understand you.

Translation

bugeye wrx . Yeah it is a bit noisey in here

PSML

Bloody Hell, how often does this topic come up?????

I went from a 99 Scoob to a new CTR and now I'm back with an STI. Bottom line is the Type R is noisy, doen't have the torque or traction and the steering feel is non-existent.

Apart from that it's a great car

with my first scoob(wrx 260 bhp) i struggled to pull away from a type r over a ton.they are impressive.

loved the translation. Helped a lot. lol

wtf

Just curious, do many of you actually keep your cars standard? I presume your cars are as easy to tune as a 200sx

Would a CTR even touch a modded WRX? Driving the fathers CTR, feels very slow indeed and its handling although good for a standard car is poor compared to something slightly modified, and I presumed a scooby would be a lot quicker out of the twisties, off the line etc..........

Shouldn't Sainsburys have a capital S and no apostrophe ?

Or was this conversation genuinely in the car park of a certain person named Sainsbury (in which case only the capital S correction applies)

I'll accept the capital though.