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Old 14 February 2000, 09:25 PM
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Revving like mad... going nowhere.... it happened .... not supposed to.... but it did... so.....someone please tell me how....??...
Old 14 February 2000, 09:28 PM
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Penni Hooligan-Whitehead,

Someones stolen your wheels and it is indeed bricked up henced going nowhere and thus you think your wheelspinning.....

There is that technical enough for you....

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Old 14 February 2000, 09:39 PM
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Oh Fris... what can I say....kkk
- ICQ it babe...!
Old 14 February 2000, 09:39 PM
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Localised relapse into the ice-age right under your car???
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Old 14 February 2000, 09:39 PM
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Could be clutch slipping.
Old 14 February 2000, 09:50 PM
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pholt
it wasn't the clutch - it was definitely wheels spinning going nowhere... I really don't like my tires and I feel they have something to do with it. Maybe the road was a bit greasy I don't know ... it wasn't right.
Old 14 February 2000, 10:03 PM
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Penni I agree with Frisby - just face it hun - someones stolen those lovely Gold wheels - they did make the car look good didnt they !
Old 14 February 2000, 11:06 PM
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Has happened to me a couple of times.

The first time was driving out of a petrol station onto a wet & greasy dual carriageway, I was very surprised to find the revs climbing and the car simply moving slowly sideways.

I guess it can happen that all four wheels break traction!

Andrew
Old 14 February 2000, 11:14 PM
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Ermm, why is wheelspin not supposed to happen? 2WD splits the torque in half to the two driven wheels, 4WD splits it by 25% to the four driven wheels. Wheelspin occurs when the torque overcomes the available grip. However, 25% of too much torque can still be too much torque, so wheelspin can still happen.

I had clutch slippage on an old car (not a Subaru), it sounded horrible & generated a nasty smell inside the car.

I'm in a helpful explaining mood tonight!
Old 14 February 2000, 11:23 PM
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Sorry penni,

i missed the title and just saw the revs rising and going nowhere bit.

doh.
Old 14 February 2000, 11:44 PM
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your on a 4 wheel rolling road dyno
Old 14 February 2000, 11:52 PM
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Penni,

Sounds like a case of GIRL RACER SYNDROME or getting practice in for Santa Pod. Watch out!

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Old 15 February 2000, 08:26 AM
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You're a nutter

Its easy to fix. Just don't push the pedal on the right so far down

D.

(Actually happened to me the other day too. Think there was some oil on the road)

Old 15 February 2000, 08:29 AM
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Diesel spillage on road? This tends to coat the tyres for a short while with a slimey grimey slithering gunge. Happened to me the other day in first, second and third gear!

Can be very dangerous though...especially for bikers.

Old 15 February 2000, 08:51 AM
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I like JohnFelstead's answer best Those rolling roads will get you everytime

Penni. You really must meet Jamie (USA board Subie Gal) when she comes to the UK..

Richard
Old 15 February 2000, 10:39 AM
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I was pulling out from a junction onto a busy dual carriageway, saw a gap, and floored it!

Pulled out, then went nowhere!! The fuel cutout kicked in, just as I changing into second, and managed to speed away (speed limits of the road permitting!! )

Looked back and saw a patch of mud on the junction, about 6ft by 6ft!!

Just be careful on those country roads!!!

Andy
Old 15 February 2000, 10:45 AM
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All four wheels slipping can happen easily if there's lots of ice around. 4WD no good here, until some wheels get traction.

Was it cold ?
Old 15 February 2000, 01:19 PM
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I think it was probably a combination of everything - it was very cold here last night - very very wet - we have a lot of lorries down this road (being an industrial estate) I was trying to go for a gap that was too small - and I had the wrong shoes on.

and I'm just trying to understand why it happened when I've been told 'several' times it's impossible to wheel spin an Impreza - or is this from the same myth 'you will never put an Impreza into a slid or lose the back end...???? which I haven't yet done, but I'm working it

Yes I would love to meet Jamie
Yes I am practising for Santa Pod

and Phil - my wheels aren't gold yet 'luv..lol...

P

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Old 15 February 2000, 01:38 PM
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You can get anything to wheelspin if you want. I should know
Old 15 February 2000, 08:03 PM
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Okay ... purely in the interest of science or whatever, I tried a couple of standing starts on a wide, deserted, deristricted, freshly Tarmac'ed, and very wet section of road. Car's a '97 UK Impy turbo with exhaust & filter.

Result? Wheelspin, and lots of it, providing I was brutal enough ... something which I don't like doing, but it is possible. Oddly enough the car didn't seem to like it much, and complains with a violent judder through the whole car.

In gear acceleration wouldn't provoke any sort of traction loss though ... which is nice.

Right, now I don't need to do that again.

Andrew.
Old 15 February 2000, 08:15 PM
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Penni,

I own a '94 WRX and have managed wheelspin in the dry as well as the wet. However, have also floored the car in the wet and not noticed any loss of traction at all (very confusing). Must assume it is mostly down to the road surface and perhaps a little too much right boot, maybe tyres also! Dying 17" continentals were great for tail slides etc, new Toyos not so. Remember the motor is v-light and v-torquey, even Imprezas have their limits. Is you car UK or import?

Kevin
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Old 16 February 2000, 02:48 AM
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Penni,

There was a thread on getting the best emergency start technique recently. I posted that it was possible, if you try, to use the slightly greasy roads to allow you to break traction, get all 4 wheels spinning and then throttle back slightly till they grip and you GO.

Does this sound familiar? You may not have intended to do it, but it sounds like you may have overestimated the available grip and consequently been a little over enthusiastic with the loud pedal!

Fun, init!

You have to remember, the scooby doesnt allow you to break the laws of physics, it just lets you bend them a bit.

You can get wheelspin and you can lose the back end too. Facts.

Moray


Old 16 February 2000, 03:33 AM
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My limited ex-Newbie experience: Tried the "getaway driver" standing start on a straight, deserted, but damp road a couple of weeks ago. Revved to 4000 and swiftly fed in the clutch. Scooby wheelspun heavily upto 3rd gear and as Moray has suggested, took off when I skilfully feathered the accelerator (started to panicked actually).

Car stayed perfectly straight and no lightness in steering was detectable.
Most likely as road camber is only v. slight.

This is one amazing car - though I won't be trying big power wet standing starts in traffic!

Suresh
Old 16 February 2000, 04:47 PM
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Sure you can smoke up a Scoob. I lost 4 tires that way. In the rain I could spin the tires at 70mph by changing down and giving it some. Kiddies don't try this at home. Alternately use a centre diff model and set it to open, dial in lots of opposite lock and throttle on.
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