Just got the latest autocar. Interesting article on 0-100-0 figures.

MY01 WRX no mods:

0-30 1.8 secs
0-60 5.7 secs (same as M5!)
0-100 17.03 secs (better than the figures evo published (thanks toofast!)
100-0 4.55 secs

Total Time 21.86
Not bad for a "heavy ugly old SLOW bus"

MY01 WRX STI 7 warrender 320 mods:

0-30 1.59 secs
0-60 4.57 secs
0-100 11.56 secs
100-0 4.47 secs

Total Time 16.48

Evo 7 warrender 340 mods:

0-30 1.62 secs
0-60 4.33 secs
0-100 11.71 secs
100-0 4.55 secs

Total Time 16.48

As a comparison

X - type Sport 3.0 23.21
Clio 172 23.65 secs
M5 18.11
M3 17.04
STI 7 (320 mod) 16.48
Evo 7 (340 mod) 16.44
550 Maranello 15.68
Surprised the sti 7 matches the evo 7!!! It gains after 60 and beats it on the breaks!

911 Turbo 14.30
Tuscan 14.04

But then for all you "i kept up with a sportsbike in a straight line" / bikes are pants people:

GSXR 1000 12.3 sec despite difficult launch!!

Anyone got classic shape UK Turbo / P1 figures?

Jza



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0-100 in 17 seconds is not better than an evo. It's around 12 seconds.

 

Better than Evo magazines test I think we mean toofast.
C

 

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by toofast:
<B>0-100 in 17 seconds is not better than an evo. It's around 12 seconds. [/quote]

Better than EVO magazine I think you'll find was the point.

Damnit I really ought to refresh the screen more often....



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Yes - i meant better than the evo figures. Thanks.

Jza

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ooops

 

you were too fast toofast!

 

I remember autocar testing the P1 and old shape back in 2000. The MY00 as I recall posted an unimpressive 0-100 of about 16.4 ish its total time was about 20-21 I seem to recall.

Can't remember the P1

Must have been a duff example MY00.

Glad to see the MY01 kicked the 172 into touch. Was it the new 172?

I am gonna have to buy teh mag.

 

MY99 14.6 to 100mph IIRC. A useful 16% quicker than the MY01

 

I want a Maranello

 

Didn't the M5 get sub 16 secs last year?

Bit of a difference for such a wonderfully accurate magazine as Autocar

 

john banks, toofast,

The autocar figures are 0 to 100 and back to 0, so you cant compare these with 0-100 figures.
The autocar figures all differ from Evos EPR test figures which goes to prove that staistics dont prove anything...

 

Sub 14 sec to 100 in a PPP MY00, thats with a cr@p launch too! so should shave a bit off that not bad for a "classic scoob" eh!

Tony

 

Seem to remember AutoCar testing an STi4 at 12.3secs to 100mph....same as a P1 funnily enough.

Ro.

 

Is this the same issue where Autocar said no Mitsubishi or Subaru can keep up with the M3, yet 2 beat it's times?

 

Last year Autocar used the old press 5 door MY00, which shall we say was past its best I have the mag at home, so if I remember will check what times it had tonight.

 

Dingy's MK II 25YO

0-100 in 9.6

Just for comparison........



17.03 is a bit slow tho aint it.....

 

LOL@ Dingy!
Nuff Said
Uncle Biff

 

Dingy,

Shame your car gets to a ton faster than it can stop from it

 

Not for long Mate...

Big Brakes and a Remote servo will help with that....

 

MarkWRX - I was comparing 0-100 for MY99 and MY01 as quoted in the post. Both not including braking time, MY99 is 16% quicker 14.6 compared with 17.0.

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Interesting figures though. I want a Tuscan!!!

Jza

 

Found it

Figures for dodgey MY00:

0-100 - 16.31
React - 0.46
Total - 21.32

 

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by CraigH:
<B>Is this the same issue where Autocar said no Mitsubishi or Subaru can keep up with the M3, yet 2 beat it's times? [/quote]

No, that was the issue before but if you are talking modified cars, I am sure the 5.0 V8 engined 500hp+ Hartage M3 conversion would more than hold its own against the Warrender modded EVOs and STis

 

Gary,

I am sure something like hyperex's Impreza, would more than hold its own against a hartge m3 conversion, and you would probably have change for a superlight r as well, just incase it didn't.

0-100 in around 8 secs. nuff said.

I wonder how much power it would take to start giving the mclaren f1 a run for its money at 6.6 seconds up to 100?

I will let you know, if I ever build my project engine .

 

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Robertio:
<B>Found it

Figures for dodgey MY00:

0-100 - 16.31
React - 0.46
Total - 21.32[/quote]

So let me get this right. All the classic car shape owners have been telling people to buy an MY00 car rather than the MY01 on the basis that its LOADS faster.

Now the figures are saying its only 0.7 secs slower 0-100-0 (and indead to 100 its only .7 secs slower) - and its got a restrictive exhaust and ways half a ton more.

Thats very very interesting. All those owners who said they test drove an MY01 and its bollox slow compared to the ~MY00 - what do you say about that then????? Did you ever really test the car or was it a load of BS????

Still want a Tuscan!!

Jza

 

Jza, as I mentioned above, they used an old press release MY00.

Which by their own admission was dying on its feet, it had lost out to an S3 when tested in a previous issue of Car (not that I buy too many magazines or anything when they too said it was a poor example )

As you probably know most tested Scoobies (old style) put in times between 14.5 and 15 for 0-100 runs, even my less than healthy model is faster that that (based on 30-110 (on clock) plus 2 seconds (estimated to reach 30 and change gear)

 

Re the dodgy MY00. Jza obviously hasn't driven the MY00 and MY01 back to back or he would know what we are talking about. MY99 is of course the same mechanically as the MY00.

 

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Adam M:
<B>Gary,

I am sure something like hyperex's Impreza, would more than hold its own against a hartge m3 conversion, and you would probably have change for a superlight r as well, just incase it didn't.

0-100 in around 8 secs. nuff said.

I wonder how much power it would take to start giving the mclaren f1 a run for its money at 6.6 seconds up to 100?

I will let you know, if I ever build my project engine .[/quote]


What's a hyperex impreza?? 0-100 in 8 secs if damned fast and would need over 400bhp per tonne Is there a close-to 500bhp impreza??

mmmmmmmm horse power

 

If only the MY01 had decent looking lights, weighed a bit less and had the 250bhp variable valve timing engine it would be fantastic and I would change now. I know you can buy a light conversion and PPP but you end up spending far more and it puts it up against another class of car. As it is, although the handling is obviously superior it doesn't give you that punch in the back power delivery of the MY00, and so I'll never buy it - call me shallow, maybe. Shame that I would have to buy a PPP or STI to get the same fun when I change - would rather have 330i than MY01, and probably M3 or EVO rather than STI. And then you'll all slag me for buying a BM But the 330i to me is a much better machine then the MY01 except in the wet and a lot of the time feels at least as quick. Flame suit on - it's just that all the reasons I bought the MY00 have disappeared with the new model - now a Clio 172 can overtake as quickly (no turbo lag) and an S3 is considerably faster - for goodness sake even my V6 406 can go 50-70 in 5th quicker than the new Impreza, and only 0.6s slower 60-100 through the gears (11.9 vs 11.3) and it only cost £7k! A 156 V6 is faster still through the gears. The old shape Impreza does 60-100 in about NINE SECONDS. When I went to try a MY01 and turned up in the Pug and got back in it afterwards it felt just as quick Suddenly the MY01 has become unimpressive compared with the other choices at similar budget, whereas the old one blew everything else in its price range away. 2.5 sec slower to 100, 2 sec slower 50-70 etc etc. Now I am a huge fan of Imprezas but just could not entertain the new shape with that performance hit and an extra 150kg or so.

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