New Age Subaru Secretly Popular
23 May 2001, 12:57 AM
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Given all of those in denial about the new shape Subaru it is actually more popular than the old model.
In the first three months of this year, Subaru shifted 1291 of the new age car, with a three per cent shift to the 5-door wagon (PTMW is having an effect!
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Year on year this is slightly higher sales than Q1 2000 when Scoobs were still very popular!
R
In the first three months of this year, Subaru shifted 1291 of the new age car, with a three per cent shift to the 5-door wagon (PTMW is having an effect!
)Year on year this is slightly higher sales than Q1 2000 when Scoobs were still very popular!
R
23 May 2001, 01:06 PM
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Why have my local dealer got a Showroom full of them then? 
Waiting lists seem to be a thing of the past.
Just out of interest are these Subaru (UK) figures or the total registered including EU Imports?
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Ian E.
P.S. must admit the new shape is growing on me
Waiting lists seem to be a thing of the past.Just out of interest are these Subaru (UK) figures or the total registered including EU Imports?
Cheers,
Ian E.
P.S. must admit the new shape is growing on me
23 May 2001, 01:30 PM
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And its ugly and slow.
Where's the bloody recaro's???????
and Evo Mag rate the Clio 172 higher up. Its a Renault for Goodness sake.
I was honestly going to replace my STI with a new Impreza when it arrived as it was surely going to be a Evo 6 beating monster.
How wrong was I. Instead, I'm buying a TVR or Porsche.
Sorry Subaru, but you have lost the plot. Even Richard Burns is struggling against a Ford Focus, a Pug 206 and the ageing Evo 6.
Come on, new lights and a even uglier spoiler won't fix it.
We need,
New front
New rear
Proper seats (not ones half inched from a 87 Corolla)
Lots more grunt to make up for the almost germanic weight gain.
But more importantly, we need the passion back. If I want a car that is like a VW Bora, I'll buy...a VW Bora. But I don't.
Harsh but fair I think!!
Now where's that TVR dealer???
Where's the bloody recaro's???????
and Evo Mag rate the Clio 172 higher up. Its a Renault for Goodness sake.
I was honestly going to replace my STI with a new Impreza when it arrived as it was surely going to be a Evo 6 beating monster.
How wrong was I. Instead, I'm buying a TVR or Porsche.
Sorry Subaru, but you have lost the plot. Even Richard Burns is struggling against a Ford Focus, a Pug 206 and the ageing Evo 6.
Come on, new lights and a even uglier spoiler won't fix it.
We need,
New front
New rear
Proper seats (not ones half inched from a 87 Corolla)
Lots more grunt to make up for the almost germanic weight gain.
But more importantly, we need the passion back. If I want a car that is like a VW Bora, I'll buy...a VW Bora. But I don't.
Harsh but fair I think!!
Now where's that TVR dealer???
23 May 2001, 01:42 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by DavidBrown:
<B>Sure, they're selling more of the new shape.
That doesn't mean it's preferred.
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Eh?! I think it does! Lots of people were loyal to the Nissan Sunny, but they couldn't give Almeras away, yet the WRX is outselling the model it replaces, so what does that tell you? The new WRX has opened up a new market for Subaru, not just people who want a basically tinny car with a sh1te interior that happens to go like hell and handle OK.
People who wouldn't touch the original for those reasons will buy the new one because it is more refined.
The clientele may have changed, but it's popularity is in no doubt!
Geezer.
<B>Sure, they're selling more of the new shape.
That doesn't mean it's preferred.
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Eh?! I think it does! Lots of people were loyal to the Nissan Sunny, but they couldn't give Almeras away, yet the WRX is outselling the model it replaces, so what does that tell you? The new WRX has opened up a new market for Subaru, not just people who want a basically tinny car with a sh1te interior that happens to go like hell and handle OK.
People who wouldn't touch the original for those reasons will buy the new one because it is more refined.
The clientele may have changed, but it's popularity is in no doubt!
Geezer.
23 May 2001, 01:46 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Geezer:
<B> yet the WRX is outselling the model it replaces, so what does that tell you? [/quote]
More are being made ?
Subaru could have sold stacks more of the old shape if they'd made more of them.
I remember the 9+ month wait for them back in 98/99
[This message has been edited by DavidBrown (edited 23 May 2001).]
<B> yet the WRX is outselling the model it replaces, so what does that tell you? [/quote]
More are being made ?
Subaru could have sold stacks more of the old shape if they'd made more of them.
I remember the 9+ month wait for them back in 98/99
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I think the point has been slightly missed by comparing sales in 2000 with sales in 2001, people are always reluctant to buy cars at the end of the life. The old model's popularity cannot be directly compared because most of the time it was on sale it was subject to quotas.
More telling perhaps is the number of new STi's be bought compared to a couple of years ago (ie no quotas for grey imports, despite old SVA limits). One dealer who sold many STI 5's etc has yet to sell one STI 7 (in stock) but has shifted 3 EVO 7's in the the same time.
Jon
More telling perhaps is the number of new STi's be bought compared to a couple of years ago (ie no quotas for grey imports, despite old SVA limits). One dealer who sold many STI 5's etc has yet to sell one STI 7 (in stock) but has shifted 3 EVO 7's in the the same time.
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23 May 2001, 01:55 PM
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Good point about the EU imports - assume these are not included, so actual amount is even more ! Incredible really - personally I dont like the shape, but Subaru have done a great job of making it more appealing to the masses, as opposed to us fanatics. This also goes for the US market where I gather they are selling very quickly.
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Rannoch:
<B>Given all of those in denial about the new shape Subaru it is actually more popular than the old model.
In the first three months of this year, Subaru shifted 1291 of the new age car, with a three per cent shift to the 5-door wagon (PTMW is having an effect!)
Year on year this is slightly higher sales than Q1 2000 when Scoobs were still very popular!
R[/quote]
If you read the article thats not the figures for the uk - think it was for the USA (who have no taste either way)
Jza
<B>Given all of those in denial about the new shape Subaru it is actually more popular than the old model.
In the first three months of this year, Subaru shifted 1291 of the new age car, with a three per cent shift to the 5-door wagon (PTMW is having an effect!
)Year on year this is slightly higher sales than Q1 2000 when Scoobs were still very popular!
R
[/quote]If you read the article thats not the figures for the uk - think it was for the USA (who have no taste either way)
Jza
23 May 2001, 03:48 PM
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>>Where's the bloody recaro's???????
Never seen an Impreza with Recaro seats, not that I'm an expert or anything.
My WRX came with height adjustable versions of the same seat fitted to my 98, better material as well.
Seats with airbags arrived in the very early models.
Never seen an Impreza with Recaro seats, not that I'm an expert or anything.
My WRX came with height adjustable versions of the same seat fitted to my 98, better material as well.
Seats with airbags arrived in the very early models.
23 May 2001, 03:48 PM
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I must say that 'bugzilla' is growing on me, the wagon espeically.
Would I get one? well, if I had the cash, yes, but it'd have to be a jap import, as the only move up I could make would be to an <I>STi Bugzilla Wagon™</I> which would be nice.
PS - am I the only one to kinda like the UK300's spoiler? maybe I'm ill?
Would I get one? well, if I had the cash, yes, but it'd have to be a jap import, as the only move up I could make would be to an <I>STi Bugzilla Wagon™</I> which would be nice.
PS - am I the only one to kinda like the UK300's spoiler? maybe I'm ill?
23 May 2001, 03:55 PM
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I think you hit the mark there trigger (oops ).
Thw new age scooby appeals a lot more to the masses, because it's more civilised (looks and behaviourwise). For the "fanatics", especially for the ones that have had Impreza's before, it's less apealing, exactly because of the same reasons that they are more apealing to the general public.
).Thw new age scooby appeals a lot more to the masses, because it's more civilised (looks and behaviourwise). For the "fanatics", especially for the ones that have had Impreza's before, it's less apealing, exactly because of the same reasons that they are more apealing to the general public.
23 May 2001, 04:11 PM
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I am most impressed with my new shape and I get some positive comments on it.In my opinion its better than my old shape in most departments. Its a progression thing, the past is just that. I have fond memories of the old but now I'm having fun with the new. Bit like old girlfriends.
23 May 2001, 05:35 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by polarbearit:
<B>More telling perhaps is the number of new STi's be bought compared to a couple of years ago (ie no quotas for grey imports, despite old SVA limits). One dealer who sold many STI 5's etc has yet to sell one STI 7 (in stock) but has shifted 3 EVO 7's in the the same time.
[/quote]
That is true - but in the homeland the STi has a massive waiting list - primarily because they can't make the gearboxes fast enough!
R
<B>More telling perhaps is the number of new STi's be bought compared to a couple of years ago (ie no quotas for grey imports, despite old SVA limits). One dealer who sold many STI 5's etc has yet to sell one STI 7 (in stock) but has shifted 3 EVO 7's in the the same time.
[/quote]
That is true - but in the homeland the STi has a massive waiting list - primarily because they can't make the gearboxes fast enough!
R
23 May 2001, 06:29 PM
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Hearing people talk about the clientele for the new Impreza definitely rings true considering the last 5 imprezas I have seen were all MY01s and all were being driven by suits who would have looked more at home in a Vectra, BMW 3 etc. i.e. the Rep brigade. I don't know how many pre MY01s were driven by Reps!
23 May 2001, 08:53 PM
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That's right, 'cos it must be impossible to enjoy driving if you have to wear a suit! I mean once you put a tie on all ability to discern motoring quality goes out the window 
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23 May 2001, 09:40 PM
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i wear a suit for work but when traveling to clients i allways make sure i put on jeans/ t-shirt and a base ball cap. i also rattle a box of old bits of metal around as well for that true "old shape" experience in my MY01
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24 May 2001, 01:48 PM
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Nice One Tiggs...
Agree totally with Ducati man
Disagree totally with CB
The two positive comments come from MY01 owners who have lived with the car....nuff said really. Who thinks the old model is attractive anyway? I certainly didn't buy my old shape because of the looks. Do Subaru make a good looking car at all...nope!! So why so many comments about the looks of the new car?
Richie
Agree totally with Ducati man
Disagree totally with CB
The two positive comments come from MY01 owners who have lived with the car....nuff said really. Who thinks the old model is attractive anyway? I certainly didn't buy my old shape because of the looks. Do Subaru make a good looking car at all...nope!! So why so many comments about the looks of the new car?
Richie
24 May 2001, 01:50 PM
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Nice One Tiggs...
Agree totally with Ducati man
Disagree totally with CB
The two positive comments come from MY01 owners who have lived with the car....nuff said really. Who thinks the old model is attractive anyway? I certainly didn't buy my old shape because of the looks. Do Subaru make a good looking car at all...nope!! So why so many comments about the looks of the new car?
Richie
Agree totally with Ducati man
Disagree totally with CB
The two positive comments come from MY01 owners who have lived with the car....nuff said really. Who thinks the old model is attractive anyway? I certainly didn't buy my old shape because of the looks. Do Subaru make a good looking car at all...nope!! So why so many comments about the looks of the new car?
Richie
24 May 2001, 04:12 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by RichieB:
<B>sorry for posting twice....must get this damn mouse changed![/quote]
Go on admit it. It's a way of getting your post count up!
Although I've not owned an old shape Scoob, I think the MY01 is the better car. It's only marginally slower (Autocar figures) and marginally uglier (my opinion, niether shape is pretty) but the interior is from the 90's rather than the 70's and the ride and handling are on a different level, again according to Autocar and certain others on this list.
I had the choice of either and have chosen a MY01 and I'm definetly an enthusiast!!
Steve
<B>sorry for posting twice....must get this damn mouse changed![/quote]
Go on admit it. It's a way of getting your post count up!
Although I've not owned an old shape Scoob, I think the MY01 is the better car. It's only marginally slower (Autocar figures) and marginally uglier (my opinion, niether shape is pretty) but the interior is from the 90's rather than the 70's and the ride and handling are on a different level, again according to Autocar and certain others on this list.
I had the choice of either and have chosen a MY01 and I'm definetly an enthusiast!!
Steve
25 May 2001, 09:49 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by RichieB:
<B>So perhaps, on balance we should conclude that the New Age Impreza is popular with those that own it....and its not a secret anymore!!
Richie[/quote]
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by RichieB:
<B>So perhaps, on balance we should conclude that the New Age Impreza is popular with those that own it....and its not a secret anymore!!
Richie[/quote]
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>>Where's the bloody recaro's???????
Never seen an Impreza with Recaro seats, not that I'm an expert or anything.
My WRX came with height adjustable versions of the same seat fitted to my 98, better material as well.
Seats with airbags arrived in the very early models.
....
Well my MY95 has Recaros - Prodrive Interior of its day. The support is absolutely great
Dean
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