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Old 14 June 2016, 09:17 AM
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These 'nice' sti's on eBay for 5/6/7/8 thousand?

Pulled my V6 Sti out the garage the other day for its oil change and have been running it around for the last few days.

Always intended to keep it for future investment (think all the cars I've kicked myself about their current value) being as it's low mileage and got a really good history and a rare colour. But I think I've kind of had enough of this type of car, I've done it for many years. Normally when I pull the Sti out I remember why I love them, it's not hit me this time.

I really like the idea of a more modern car that's still able to be tweaked. I'm thinking Audi S3 8p model. Nice interior, still nippy and 4wd. I'm not interested in chucking it around and just want something that accelerates well when I want.

Looking at the prices people are asking I could sell my Sti and my WRX wagon (bug) and get an S3.. But, has anyone sold a nice classic Sti for this strong money lately?

I'm talking V6 STI, 75k miles, superb history file, remapped by GGR when imported as not far off a new car, runs like a dream.
Old 14 June 2016, 10:04 AM
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my mate had a high spec'd v6 sti couldnt really sell it, he cut the price drastically as he found a skyline he wanted bad

Though a standard one might be easier to shift maybe?
Old 14 June 2016, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by taylor85
my mate had a high spec'd v6 sti couldnt really sell it, he cut the price drastically as he found a skyline he wanted bad

Though a standard one might be easier to shift maybe?

Standard is the new modified and used GC8 prices will reflect this. Thankfully those who know have not chavved up, bolted on tatt or turned their cars into whiteline sniffing death traps are now earning.

The 25 year US rule kicks in soon and good imports will cost a fortune.

A 205 GTi recently went for £23k in standard trim, read into that what you will.
Old 14 June 2016, 12:14 PM
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Check sioc still plenty chav chariots about ����
Yeah this was pretty standard outside just running decent power , it went in the end tho
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Only Audi I would sell my low mileage (under 40k miles) V7 Sti for would be a RS4, owt else and id just buy one as a 2nd/3rd car, like I have just done tbh.
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It's a shame as I think there's still a stigma attached to owning an "STI." Mark my words though, the humble turbo 2000 prices will level out and be very similar to an STI as people will have a soft spot for a nice turbo 2000 (I hope anyway ) ...despite an STI being a much more capable car.

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Old 14 June 2016, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815
A 205 GTi recently went for £23k in standard trim, read into that what you will.
It was filled with cocaine and was just a fancy way to sell and transport the stuff?
Old 14 June 2016, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by LSherratt
It's a shame as I think there's still a stigma attached to owning an "STI." Mark my words though, the humble turbo 2000 prices will level out and be very similar to an STI as people will have a soft spot for a nice turbo 2000 (I hope anyway ) ...despite an STI being a much more capable car.
I think you are correct now the cars are old the value is in the originality.
Sioc have ruined the last few turdo 2000s along with rust
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Last few? Still over 3,000 of them taxed according to how many left.

I've never really agreed with the keep it standard argument with these cars though. For example, a UK classic is not a fast car by today's standards, so a few well executed mods to take them closer to STI performance is no bad thing in my eyes.

The argument I use is - look at MK 1 Escorts with Cosworth engines. Not exactly harmed their values has it!

Done well and expensively, a modified car is just as desirable as a standard one when it comes to rally reps. Apart from a 22B obviously.
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Originally Posted by rossyboy
Last few? Still over 3,000 of them taxed according to how many left.

I've never really agreed with the keep it standard argument with these cars though. For example, a UK classic is not a fast car by today's standards, so a few well executed mods to take them closer to STI performance is no bad thing in my eyes.

The argument I use is - look at MK 1 Escorts with Cosworth engines. Not exactly harmed their values has it!

Done well and expensively, a modified car is just as desirable as a standard one when it comes to rally reps. Apart from a 22B obviously.
How many of the 3000 are worth any money, have been chavved up or actually exist?

The internet is not all the truth, Wikipedia as an example.
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Originally Posted by rossyboy
For example, a UK classic is not a fast car by today's standards, so a few well executed mods to take them closer to STI performance is no bad thing in my eyes.
Of course, I'm planning and working towards this currently. Upgraded Prodrive exhaust, air filter, fuel pump and a ecutek remap will take my Turbo 2000 from factory 215bhp to 280bhp which will keep up with most things. Perfectly fine doing something like that IMO as that won't affect value.
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Originally Posted by LSherratt
Of course, I'm planning and working towards this currently. Upgraded Prodrive exhaust, air filter, fuel pump and a ecutek remap will take my Turbo 2000 from factory 215bhp to 280bhp which will keep up with most things. Perfectly fine doing something like that IMO as that won't affect value.
Best of luck on a standard UK gearbox and diff.
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Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815
How many of the 3000 are worth any money, have been chavved up or actually exist?

The internet is not all the truth, Wikipedia as an example.
Well I've bought one recently. 1 owner from new. 42k miles. In the process of having a cambelt kit fitted. Full service. Water pump, all fluids. All calipers refurbed. New discs, pads. New tyres. Wheels refurbed. Will be a good investment,and a lovely car to drive once finished. Nice to own along side my Hawk Sti.

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Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815
Best of luck on a standard UK gearbox and diff.
Apparently can handle up to 350. Not fussed either way anyway.

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Originally Posted by LSherratt
Apparently can handle up to 350. Not fussed either way anyway.
"Please stop the noises"
"What noises?"
"My car s@itting itself!"

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Old 16 June 2016, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
I think you are correct now the cars are old the value is in the originality.
Sioc have ruined the last few turdo 2000s along with rust

Turdo..... come on Tom Tom, you would have lynched me for that old mate
Old 16 June 2016, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by LSherratt
Apparently can handle up to 350. Not fussed either way anyway.
no chance

the classic has the 752 gearbox, usually rated up to 300bhp max
the bug onwards had the stronger 754 box fitted (but different variations through the years) the blob is rated up to 350bhp, and the hawk box is the strongest
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Originally Posted by BoozyDave
no chance

the classic has the 752 gearbox, usually rated up to 300bhp max
the bug onwards had the stronger 754 box fitted (but different variations through the years) the blob is rated up to 350bhp, and the hawk box is the strongest
The DCCD Type R/RA V5-6 box is the strongest of the 5 speeds
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Sold a V5 STi 4dr Saloon a couple months ago for £7500 Fresh Import Grade 4 totally standard and done 75k Miles. Car was in exceptional original condition throughout and to be honest had a few people interested in buying.
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Wow sounds nice, decent price?

Originally Posted by ae82mad
Well I've bought one recently. 1 owner from new. 42k miles. In the process of having a cambelt kit fitted. Full service. Water pump, all fluids. All calipers refurbed. New discs, pads. New tyres. Wheels refurbed. Will be a good investment,and a lovely car to drive once finished. Nice to own along side my Hawk Sti.
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Originally Posted by BoozyDave
no chance

the classic has the 752 gearbox, usually rated up to 300bhp max
the bug onwards had the stronger 754 box fitted (but different variations through the years) the blob is rated up to 350bhp, and the hawk box is the strongest

V5 was the start of the 754 box actually chap
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Originally Posted by ronjeramy
The DCCD Type R/RA V5-6 box is the strongest of the 5 speeds
Later blob and hawk 5 speeds are deemed the best of the bunch.
But yes, the 754 boxes from later classics are seen to be the strongest 'classic' box. Although even those are now getting on a bit so pushing one will end in tears no doubt.
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752 boxes are OK for what they are but unless you allow some slippage in the tyres and clutch you will kill it. Fit AD08RS and a pink exeedy and 300bhp and associated torque will kill it fairly quickly driven properly
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What about the 754 box in the v5 type r ?

where would you draw the line with that
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A UK classic will be perfectly fine at 280 bhp. Being a 2 litre, the torque will be more like 240-250? at that level.

My WRX 752 gearbox with exedy clutch has been perfectly fine on 300 lb/ft since 2006. Albeit no track work and fairly low mileage.

Abuse it and you'll break it - simple.
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Originally Posted by SmurfyBhoy
What about the 754 box in the v5 type r ?

where would you draw the line with that
I have a MY99 RA with a TY754VB1BA 'box, the non DCCD version of the TY754VB1CA MY99/00 Type R 'box. Running standard power for most of its life then more recently 320/320.

4th gear started to crunch at 88k miles, so was promptly rebuilt.
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
V5 was the start of the 754 box actually chap
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