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Who has one and doing a 2.1 build I am looking into buy one and doing this myself any tips or no of one forsale also who would you guys recommend for the parts thanks In advance.

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Any info

1509joe

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Rocking horse s**t. Better of buying a V1/2 car.

**jay**

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tons on eBay for sale

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Can't trust eBay full of con artists plus eBay are a nightmare when problems start hence why I asked on here

Paben

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The semi closed deck on Newage Stis is man enough even for big power engines and readily available.

Dvddan

Try my man Tim at Heathrow performance, he can help with any questions and should be able to source you 1

Tim 07832 354989

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Ok thanks will give him a call

Ciaran

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I bought a load at 1 point. Had 16 in total.
Sold to a load of big companies like RCM, lateral and RA motorsport.
This was 7 or years ago when they were £100-£200.
Never managed anything so lucrative since.
Tbh you don't need a CDB unless going 500bhp plus

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My plan is a 550 bhp build so closed deck block is were I'm at just now I was originally going to buy a car first but decided to get the parts sorted and look for a type r to fit my build into. A 2.1 engine with 6 speed sti conversion going for 550 bhp that's my plan should make for a quick car on the track

Alan Jeffery

We're happy to use an open deck block at around 400 bhp. A semi closed is good for 500 and a closed deck above that, given the option.
Having said that, this is a wish list. We've seen an open deck block run for years at 520 bhp before it started leaking a bit..
In all honesty, you can't beat a closed deck block, so why Subaru decided to deprive us of them I don't know, unless it was to save a bit of cash.
Let's face it, they don't want the likes of us messing about with them, do they?

ossett2k2

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What are your thoughts on block pinning or sleeving? Is the cost to much?
And at what power can you run these two options ?

matt-c

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Yep, cash. CDB much more expensive to manufacture.

MattyB1983

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And no real benefit on a standard factory car, so makes sense to use the cheaper option.

Alan Jeffery

I've never liked the look of pinning, sleeving just introduces another host of failure points. We often have the top deck plates done on 2.5 blocks, no regrets there so far.

Alan Jeffery

True enough, again, why should they worry about what we do?

SmurfyBhoy

What about when they close the deck off using an insert ?
What's that called ?
And how would you rate that method ?

Tidgy

closed deck converting is not mega pricey, iirc around £500

mines speced for 550, photo of a normal and closed deck converted,

SmurfyBhoy

This is what I was looking at,

Guess it wouldn't matter if you start with semi closed or fully open if you go this route ?

Ash Webster

how did the conversion process go? do they just fill it with ally? sorry if that sounds stupid!

joe v3sti

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You Need to speak Alyn up at AS Performance about the closed deck inserts, he's been doing them for years and are tried and tested, a lot of the 2.5 boys use them.
He also does it for the normal 2.0L blocks.
A good option in my eyes, especially if you know your ODB is a good one, I'd rather have an insert put into my good ODB rather than take on an unknown quantity CDB.
Speak to Alyn

Tidgy

nah its fine, many ways you could theoretically do it.

Im not 100% sure on the exact process different companies use butmy understanding is the block is machined to suit then the insert is pressed in, then the face machined flat.

SmurfyBhoy

So would it matter if you have fully open or semi closed ?

If u put insert in both and machine u will be left with same thing am i correct ?

Or are there other differences ?

banny sti

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yes you would end up with the same end results with either hence get a odb as they are cheaper

SmurfyBhoy

My thoughts exactly