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Old 08 March 2016, 08:38 PM
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Default Been to look at a 330s tonight-can anybody explain this bill to me!

Hi guys been to look at a 59 plate hatch sti tonight on a cat d but decent price. The guy has a bill for an engine but looks vague, can anyone explain it to me. Surely they haven't just put original week parts back in.



Old 08 March 2016, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by daz_vx220
Hi guys been to look at a 59 plate hatch sti tonight on a cat d but decent price. The guy has a bill for an engine but looks vague, can anyone explain it to me. Surely they haven't just put original week parts back in.




No mention of forged pistons or headmasters and uprated studs.

Just a standard rebuild and comes along with the associated chocolate 2.5 issues.....
Old 08 March 2016, 08:49 PM
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to me it reads like just rebuilt with standard parts so it will be likey to go again at some point. did it go back to subaru for the software update do you know?
Old 08 March 2016, 08:56 PM
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And garage is not a Subaru specialist, no mention of gaskets etc.
I wouldn't trust it tbh
Old 08 March 2016, 09:00 PM
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Id run away unless you getting it cheap
Old 08 March 2016, 09:02 PM
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Surely they have changed gaskets, I'm gonna ring garage in morning and hopefully get more info, what questions do I need to ask?
It's just had 4 new Bridgestone tyres, got £1500 vx coil overs, newly refurbished alloys and to be fair is in great condition, better than some not cat'ed cars. Surley worth 9k all day
Old 08 March 2016, 09:03 PM
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Weird company has no land line number.
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The engine build means nothing really as its just back to standard and by the price of the build it will be cheaper parts so basically they have built a weak engine even weaker, if it had been forged then id say yes decent price but that be a gamble, you will end up with a cat d and another failed engine, it be worth nothing then, far too much of a gamble
Old 08 March 2016, 09:31 PM
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I agree with the above and wouldnt touch it, its been done on the cheap and too much of a gamble.
Old 08 March 2016, 09:36 PM
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I've messaged the builder and he says he just supplied a stock engine. What other questions do I need to ask?
Suppose with any of these there a gamble on it blowing. £15k or £9k cat d
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We've told you not to buy, but ultimately it's your choice as you seem dead set
Old 08 March 2016, 09:58 PM
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less of a gamble if its been put together by a subaru specialist though, looking at the the premises on google earth i dont think they are.
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I can always see this been a problem with me purchasing one of these hatch sti's. Got talked out of one around 12 months since after owning 10+ Impreza's over 15 years without 1 single issue. Now or never in thinking, can these engines not be upgraded before they let go for less money?
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yes you can get the pistons and headgaskets swapped out before they fail, it will cost a little less but still expect to lose a few grand in doing it. 9k seems a bit steep in my opinion if it's been repaired before (how bad was the damage?) and will need another 3k or more on a proper build before you can drive it without the fear.
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Just spoken to the guy who built engine, all seals and gaskets done. He does specialise in impreza's and has been doing them for years. It was built stock as that's what customer wanted.
Old 09 March 2016, 10:18 AM
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Run away, dude. You have been warned, and not just once.

There are other cars out there!!!
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So is the advice to stay clear of this one or any none forged 2.5sti? As I've traced previous owners regarding this car and the person who sent it for engine build.
Old 09 March 2016, 12:20 PM
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Can get a lot better than a Cat D hatch for £9k..

Avoid this one IMO. Not to say avoid all non-forged 2.5s entirely, but be weary at least.
Old 09 March 2016, 12:24 PM
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Simply put yes, 2.5s have a nasty habbit of dropping ring lands and headgaskets. I suspect engine build was done on the cheap rather than any thought of longevity
Old 09 March 2016, 05:30 PM
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At the end of the day it's always going to be a CAT D.
With or without a proper engine build.

So unless someone is desperate to buy a Hatch 330s cus it's in their cheaper price range. It's not going to be a good seller. Plus insurance issue too.


Id save a few grand more and buy a better non right off car.
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warranty not transferable also sounds dodgy ( doesn't it ) ??
Old 10 March 2016, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by nikon-man
warranty not transferable also sounds dodgy ( doesn't it ) ??
Only valid for a month anyway , I can't work out if it's 2013 and changed to 2015?
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Originally Posted by Dubzy
I agree with the above and wouldnt touch it, its been done on the cheap and too much of a gamble.
I wouldn't either, not with a 50ft bargepole.

If the receipt had been from enginetuner, api or somewhere reputable yes, but I've never heard of the place that was done.
Old 10 March 2016, 11:37 PM
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have you had a look at SIM's old car....
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2008-Subar...QAAOSwv9hW3Cij
Old 11 March 2016, 01:16 AM
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Scoobybits in Cornwall have a hatch for sale at 10k with a enginetuner forged engine.
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Cat D
Diffulcult to sell in the future especially as the car gets older and it's 7 years old now

2.5 engine you will need to have 3-5 k spare in the bank when the engine goes pop again
And it will

Listern to the good advice here and walk away
There isn't many STi for sale as people who have them have had to spend thousands on them replaceing engines so need To keep them to get their moneys worth
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SUBARU-IMP...UAAOSw~OVWu5qp

There is always this one to consider for a bit more.
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Originally Posted by jobegold@hotmail.co.uk
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SUBARU-IMP...UAAOSw~OVWu5qp

There is always this one to consider for a bit more.
nice spec!
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^^ that's nice
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Do you think it is priced correctly.


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