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Old 23 February 2016, 03:16 PM
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Default 12k to spend on estate car.. 335d? Audi?

As above got about 12k to spend on a estate car been looking at BMW 335d touring or maybe a Audi. What's everyone's thoughts and experience?

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Old 23 February 2016, 03:41 PM
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S4/RS4, M5, AMG?
Old 23 February 2016, 03:47 PM
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S4/RS4, M5, AMG?
Want a diesel mate. That's why looking at 335d. Wish I could afford to run a M5 estate haa
Old 23 February 2016, 04:12 PM
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A6 Avant pref in Datona grey
2.0 will suffice if it's just the family & the odd luggage lump / but as its a big car 3.0 if your long hauling & intending to tow..
It ticks the boxes for me & I like the car , ultimately your choice tho . Try & stretch a few more pounds to get a higher spec s line or black edition , / as with everything VAG
Running costs & servicing isn't pleasant , but little is this day / age
Old 23 February 2016, 04:17 PM
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Octavia VRS?
Old 23 February 2016, 04:23 PM
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Looking at something that can tow a trailer with my Scooby on. Have about 5k to put down on it then spread the cost on drip. Planning on keeping it a few years so wanting something with about 50k on the clock with full leather et
Old 23 February 2016, 04:44 PM
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The first thing is, if you are only doing short journeys forget the BMW, modern diesels need good long runs out or the dpf's clog up and cause issues, if you want to use a towing car then range rover/land rover etc, much better choice for lower mileage trips
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/301872131380
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I know it's not the Avant , still a cracking touring car tho
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Realistically he needs to find out what these cars can tow braked/unbraked and short list from there, im still one for a range rover/land rover over an estate.
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Fair play , If you want towing capacity the new 2016 ford ranger is the boy / entry level starts at £15-16 K & that's new / double cab , bikes in the back / cycles on the roof & scoob on the tow - can see it now lol
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Originally Posted by jazzyjembreaze
Fair play , If you want towing capacity the new 2016 ford ranger is the boy / entry level starts at £15-16 K & that's new / double cab , bikes in the back / cycles on the roof & scoob on the tow - can see it now lol


Not massively into them. Don't really want to be spending more than 13k
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Like the look of this

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=252162452862&globalID=EBAY-GB&alt=web
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
Realistically he needs to find out what these cars can tow braked/unbraked and short list from there, im still one for a range rover/land rover over an estate.
Tony has hit the nail on the head it's been a little while since I did any tow safe checks, but I would imagine most cars will struggle to pull a scooby on a trailer. BMW's weren't particularly good tow cars, with a MTPLM of 1600kg usually. Long of the short to get the MTPLM you take the vehicles gross weight from the train weight which give you your MTPLM which is the max a vehicle can pull. 4x4s or pick-ups would be better tow vehicles.
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Un braked trailers usually have a maximum of 750kg so that's out of the question

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Originally Posted by Rbon91
It just doesn't have the towing capability for a braked trailer with a scoob on the back.

http://www.uktow.com/towing%20capacity.asp

The example is a Range Rover Disco, has 1500kg MORE towing capability than that BMW....
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looking at these, the second one has had the air suspension changed for Coils. due to the standards being a nightmare to fail


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2005-Land-...8AAOSwT5tWLiQH

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rover...8AAOSwCypWn~ev


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rover...8AAOSwcBhWWDDN
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I'd forget anything from land rover if you want it to be reliable, Toyota or Isuzu are where you want to put your money if you want it to do what it says on the tin.

If it's got to be flash then X5 or ML, but personally I prefer substance over form.
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XC90 just as a curve ball
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Originally Posted by Captainfunbags
XC90 just as a curve ball
Good call, they do well on the reliability stakes too.
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I have one as my daily hack and it does what is says on the tin and surprisingly economical, tows well also ???

Like driving a sofa with it's comedy handling
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
I'd forget anything from land rover if you want it to be reliable, Toyota or Isuzu are where you want to put your money if you want it to do what it says on the tin.

If it's got to be flash then X5 or ML, but personally I prefer substance over form.

Cheers ditch yeah just been doing some research and the reliability if the disco is bad. Just want something that I can throw tools in back if needed but also smart enough to go out in and half decent on fuel.

Ryan
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Originally Posted by Captainfunbags
I have one as my daily hack and it does what is says on the tin and surprisingly economical, tows well also ???

Like driving a sofa with it's comedy handling

The volvo?
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Forester sti
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Originally Posted by camcap
Forester sti

Need something half decent on fuel else would love a blob wagon or forester
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Originally Posted by camcap
Forester sti
It won't pull it, a 2.2d Mondeo will tow 2000kg legally and weighs a lot less than that, I wouldn't want to pull 2000kg with one though.
It's not down to just power/torque etc it's other factors
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Originally Posted by Rbon91
The volvo?
Yup
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Originally Posted by ronjeramy
It won't pull it, a 2.2d Mondeo will tow 2000kg legally and weighs a lot less than that, I wouldn't want to pull 2000kg with one though.
It's not down to just power/torque etc it's other factors
A mapped 535d would be 360/550 😂
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Originally Posted by Captainfunbags
Yup
In the rite colour and spec they do look smart
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Originally Posted by Rbon91
A mapped 535d would be 360/550 ��
Had both a 335 and 535 Tourers, ballistic once mapped

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