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Old 21 February 2016, 07:44 PM
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Hi all,

Just registered, albeit with a typo in my username. I've spotted a v6 type r that I'm interested in and am about to put a deposit down on.
http://www.ib-e.co.uk/our-stock/suba...ving-japan.htm
Just wondering what better Subaru educated people think about it. I think the price seems about right for a fresh import?
Any advice appreciated, and comments on I.B.E if anyone has experience of them. Only seen one review, enough thankfully was a glowing one.
Old 21 February 2016, 07:57 PM
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That's an awful lot of money in my opinion.
Old 21 February 2016, 07:59 PM
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Tidy....but VERY expensive for a 17 year old car!
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Nice looking car,a little on the expensive side.
I'm not saying I've heard anything bad about this place but,I would definitely get full proof of mileage and a look at the auction sheet.
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Hi all. Thanks for the replies. The price may be a bit high, but I'm struggling to find a like for like to compare. Torque GT had a couple of v6 type rs come on their auction list with guide price of £14000, but with 30,000 miles on the clock. They do seem to be going up in value?
I've been in conversation with them and the car has been serviced, timing belt and water pump done before shipping and he'll send the auction sheet and history once it's in the UK.
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Looks a nice example - not keen on the front bumper but otherwise looks well tidy and good price as you rightly say they are increasing in price and even becoming hard to come by good examples in Japan.
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Originally Posted by jamrsm2603
Hi all. Thanks for the replies. The price may be a bit high, but I'm struggling to find a like for like to compare. Torque GT had a couple of v6 type rs come on their auction list with guide price of £14000, but with 30,000 miles on the clock. They do seem to be going up in value?
I've been in conversation with them and the car has been serviced, timing belt and water pump done before shipping and he'll send the auction sheet and history once it's in the UK.
Your problem is buying from a trader, they are the reason prices are sky high at present. They hover above the forum classifieds waiting for cars to come up for sale, swoop in and buy them, then stick a few £k on the selling price.....Its happened loads on this forum as well as overs.

Eighteen months ago that car would of been roughly £3.5k less than it is now and its peoples willingness to pay well over the odd's for a car the reason the prices are so high. In terms of what you get for your money(especially with that Type R) You get a lot more car with a Newage STI.

One thing to take into consideration with that Version 6 Type R is the cost of mapping for UK fuel, roughly £550 for Ecutek mapping.

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Originally Posted by jamrsm2603
I've been in conversation with them and the car has been serviced, timing belt and water pump done before shipping and he'll send the auction sheet and history once it's in the UK.
If I was you I would look to get that done by them here in the UK with proof or discounted in the price and get it done yourself for piece of mind.
Otherwise it IS a good price for a fresh import V6 IMO.

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Originally Posted by RAF1
If I was you I would look to get that done by them here in the UK with proof or discounted in the price and get it done yourself for piece of mind.
Otherwise it IS a good price for a fresh import V6 IMO.

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If, like they say, their Japan team have done it prior to shipping, proof of that should be enough, surely?

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Your problem is buying from a trader, they are the reason prices are sky high at present. They hover above the forum classifieds waiting for cars to come up for sale, swoop in and buy them, then stick a few £k on the selling price.....Its happened loads on this forum as well as overs.

Eighteen months ago that car would of been roughly £3.5k less than it is now and its peoples willingness to pay well over the odd's for a car the reason the prices are so high. In terms of what you get for your money(especially with that Type R) You get a lot more car with a Newage STI.

One thing to take into consideration with that Version 6 Type R is the cost of mapping for UK fuel, roughly £550 for Ecutek mapping.
Unfortunately, due to needing to sell a car to fund my 1st Impreza, and having difficulty doing so, buying through a trader seems to be my only option.
I see what you're saying about the new age STis, but they just don't do it for me as much as the 2 door body, although I do like a nice hawk.
As regards the mapping, am I right in thinking the v6 ECUs can be remapped. The trader has said that it has been done to run 99 RON fuel.

Originally Posted by STI -V4
Looks a nice example - not keen on the front bumper but otherwise looks well tidy and good price as you rightly say they are increasing in price and even becoming hard to come by good examples in Japan.
I'll be honest, I'm not keen on the front bumper either, but that can soon be sorted.
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Originally Posted by jamrsm2603
As regards the mapping, am I right in thinking the v6 ECUs can be remapped. The trader has said that it has been done to run 99 RON fuel.
Yes the stock ecu can be mapped via Ecutek, the other option is a stand alone ecu.

If you're about to drop the best part of £10k on that Type R then you'd be mad to just except the traders say so that its been mapped for UK fuel and had the belt done without any proof. You'll be lucky to get change out of £1100 if you had to pay yourself fella.
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Yes the ECU is mappable,strange that the trader has said it's already been mapped in Japan for 99ron. Totally possible tho i suppose? I would want proof of that too tho or get a map check done when/if you get it.
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Originally Posted by jayallen
Yes the stock ecu can be mapped via Ecutek, the other option is a stand alone ecu.

If you're about to drop the best part of £10k on that Type R then you'd be mad to just except the traders say so that its been mapped for UK fuel and had the belt done without any proof. You'll be lucky to get change out of £1100 if you had to pay yourself fella.
Thanks for confirming that.

Absolutely. There is no way I'd just accept their word for it. If I go ahead, I've made sure it's on the understanding that my deposit is refundable and all proof of work carried out and auction sheet will be sent to me once the car lands, as the paper work is in the car.
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Whilst I think about it. With it supposedly being mapped to 99 RON fuel, what company sells 99 RON? Shell v power and the like are only 97 aren't they?
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They will have pictures of the auction sheet and paperwork,just get them to email it onto you,I'm sure they won't mind
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Originally Posted by jamrsm2603
Thanks for confirming that.

Absolutely. There is no way I'd just accept their word for it. If I go ahead, I've made sure it's on the understanding that my deposit is refundable and all proof of work carried out and auction sheet will be sent to me once the car lands, as the paper work is in the car.
You should be able to get auction sheet emailed straightaway as once car goes through the ,the grade sheet is there to see and anyone who buys a car 'tends' to save it onto there computer as they do with the car pics when going through.. Well thats what I do anyway!
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Originally Posted by jamrsm2603
Whilst I think about it. With it supposedly being mapped to 99 RON fuel, what company sells 99 RON? Shell v power and the like are only 97 aren't they?
Vpower 99 and tesco99
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Originally Posted by jamrsm2603
Thanks for confirming that.

Absolutely. There is no way I'd just accept their word for it. If I go ahead, I've made sure it's on the understanding that my deposit is refundable and all proof of work carried out and auction sheet will be sent to me once the car lands, as the paper work is in the car.
So the car isn't even in the country? It definitely wouldn't of been mapped then.

I'm not being funny but it appears to me the trader is prepared to tell you what you want to hear to secure a sale.
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Japan has 101/102 RON fuel to my knowledge so dont think it would be mapped in Japan for lower grade fuel!!
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I cannot see it having been remapped already if it has not even been loaded onto the boat yet.

It does look clean, but then it can be hard to tell just from pictures sometimes especially if they have had the touch up pen out.



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Really appreciate the help and honesty, guys, as I really am new to this and finding it all a bit scary! Looks like I've got a bit of digging to do tomorrow.
I guess I could still put the £250 deposit down, and if he can't come up with the goods when it lands, demand it gets done plus proof, or withdraw from the deal?
What sort of proof would be provided of the fuel mapping?

Edit: Apparently it is on its way, about 2 weeks away. But I see your point about the mapping.

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Very little proof I would imagine. A mapper over here will be able to see if the ecu has been reflashed though.
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That sounds like a plan. Obviously whoever maps it will give an invoice for it being done and if the garage gets it done just speak to whoever did it to confirm.
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Dyno run sheet,afr graph but as said highly unlikely to have been mapped already.
Get them to take it for a check to a tuner,or budget for this and pay to get it checked if you buy it.
Needs doing tho.
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Once again, really appreciate everyone's time and help. At the very least I'm a bit more educated to be able to grill them and ask for proof of the right things now!
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Good luck with it all
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Tesco Momentum I use and its 99, thought V Power was 98?
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Tesco Momentum I use and its 99, thought V Power was 98?
Optimax was 98
Vpower nitro+ is 99
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Ah ok - don't use V power anymore as it's only sold in my local motorway services, hence big bucks
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Just to add that is very strong. It isnt even a ltd either.

I was speaking to an importer last week and he offered a v6 type r v ltd bone stock landed in the UK and reg'd for 8k, may be worth bringing one in if you can wait 8 weeks


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