mjharper

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I'm starting work in Chester tomorrow (Live in Wrexham) and the commute is a nightmare apparently so I'm going to get the train, at least initially.

I can park at a friends house near the station which will work out at just under 4 miles each way.

I've heard people say short journeys in performance cars isn't a good thing, is this true? I change the oil every 3-4k and take it out on 60mile+ trips a couple of times a month

LSherratt

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Not at all, stop worrying... an 8 mile round trip isn't exactly a short journey.

riiidaa

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Providing you're not going foot to floor, boosting at every opportunity, you have sod all to worry about.

Blue by You

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On the contrary. Short journeys don't warm the engine up sufficiently to evaporate any condensation that might accumulate in the crankcase. The oil won't get up to proper operating temperature in 4 miles and so cannot work to it's best advantage at a time when the engine is in need of good protection from wear and tear.
It's not a round trip of 8 miles either. It's a single trip of less than 4 miles twice a day.
But you believe what you believe I suppose.

Trinity

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Its a car, its meant to be driven. Treat it right when its cold.

or put it in your garage with some cotton wool and only bring it out on Sundays like a tool

HawkerSTI

I've used my STI as my daily since i bought her over two years ago and i only live 3 miles from work and ive had no problems! I just take her out for a good run on my day off.

mjharper

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Good stuff guys, I never floor it on short trips like this

mjharper

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haha I would but me and the missus have a car each, I don't think I could justify getting another car for this

scoobyboy1

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Depends what model Impreza?? If you got a Hawk then chances are your doing lots of damage!!!

Gear Head

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Can you imagine the stick that Subaru would get if they said that you couldn't drive the car on short journeys? The motoring press would have a field day.

Just drive it sensibly and change the oil every 6 months.

You will be fine.

scoobyboy1

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Have you seen Subaru UK warranty, Id be surprised if that wasn't on there to get out of paying these claims on the 2.5 engines!!

jaygsi

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Hey

MattyB1983

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Oi, I do that Mr





I am a tool though according to the wife

hodgy0_2

get a bike

mjharper

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I understand your concern but I've had the engine rebuilt and forged by API because it popped as expected!

RS_Matt

Crikey I usually boot it up the country lane 2 miles from mine on a morning!

I thought when the water temp was up to it's normal peak the oil was also at its peak

barnshaw

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you couldnt be more wrong, my water is to temp about 1.5 miles after driving, oil temp or 90 degress takes at least 5 or 6 miles! Get a set of gauges!

RS_Matt

OMG!!!

Or 90 degrees?

You know what my guess mark is not working on my keyboard and I keep asking questions.

the / button works though but when I press shift+/ it doesn't do anything, so annoying.

barnshaw

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in essence your water temperature will get there MUCH quicker then your oil temperature, dont use your water temp as a guide, get a set of gauges or seriously consider taking a lot longer and getting more temp into the oil before stretching the cars legs.

RS_Matt

RS_Matt

Yeah tbh I always thought the water temp up to speed meant that the oil would be **** on.

I sincerely didn't realise oil would still need extra time to get to optimum temps.

I'm using the Thomas stuff too! 10/50

thenewgalaxy

It does depend on spec but a regular UK car running the recommended 5w30 oil will heat up very quickly.

Something running say 10w60 with an oil cooler can take 20+ minutes to get up to temperature.

I've recently fitted a set of Genomes to my S202 and it takes ages for the oil to heat up.

IIRC the OP will be running a forged 2.5 and running quite a thick oil so would be best to drive off boost for at least 15 minutes after starting the car.

RS_Matt

Give over wasting your time scag, you're nothing like the Nightrider.

RS_Matt

Bloody hell it gets worse!

Doesn't an oil cooler bother with a thermostat/

ALi-B

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Short journeys in ANY car is bad for them.

The oil dilutes with fuel and water from combustion gets into the oil causing it to degrade, become corrosive and allow condensation to build and create nice creamy gunk. Making idiot/internet mechanics think your head gasket has gone. This is obviously worse in the winter due to the colder temps. Its degraded and contaminated oil that kills engines, not how cold it is.

The answer? Simples. Take it for a "proper" drive once a week where the engine has a good hour to run. Doesn't have to be hard driving, just be driven long enough to boil off the nasty stuff out through the breather system.

Alternatively change the oil more often. Or better - do both.

PS...I never bother warming up/cooling down. Just get in an drive. I have to hoof it out onto the busy dual-carriage way at the end of my road on a daily basis; Its not something I like doing, but to totter out on that road would be suicide. Done that in every car I've owned, none had any engine issues.

JayUK91

I have a 4 mile commute twice a day. I personally stay below 3k RPM for the duration.

LuckyWelshchap

You obviously don't live around here.
My oil's up to temp (Defi tells me so) in less than a MILE some days.

Depends on the traffic, and if it's commuter type then 5 mins and you're warm enough.
Cold/Winter days and if you use the demister before you set off, probably up to temp in a few hundred yards.

LuckyWelshchap

In my experience, water temp gets to operating temp about a mile or 2 mins before oil does.

That's assuming that both dash and Defi guages are in sync.

forgedmarco

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What oil are you running LWC? Curious as I run 10/50 and don't have a guage yet.

sprigeteer

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Agree - gauges help. I live 15 minutes from work. A mix of 60 A roads and 70 dual. Never take it above 3K until the oil is approaching 90. It gets to 90 at the end of the journey in this cold weather - I travel at around 6.30 am, with an ambient temp of around 4-8 at the moment. Water is up to temp after about 3-5 mins of driving. My knock sensor (via the Toucan multi-gauge) tends to get excited if you load it up when it's cold - leason learned a few years back, never done it since.