Project Scoobynet - Prologue
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Project Scoobynet - Prologue
Can we have a Scooby that is both able to be used to take us and our family on a trip without sacrificing comfort and also be untouchable on track?
Can we have a Scooby that can be used to take us backwards and forwards from work each day, every day, yet still give us ultimate road handling and more power without losing driveability?
Can we have a Scooby that can be multi-disciplined, but take the best of all scenarios (more power, better handling & reliability) without costing us a fortune or comprising any of the above?
Can all this be done using tasteful modifications?
Sound interesting?..... because using involvement from selected companies that is what we are all going to find out with "Project Scoobynet"!
Watch this space for more information on the Project for the masses.
Regards,
Shaun.
Can we have a Scooby that can be used to take us backwards and forwards from work each day, every day, yet still give us ultimate road handling and more power without losing driveability?
Can we have a Scooby that can be multi-disciplined, but take the best of all scenarios (more power, better handling & reliability) without costing us a fortune or comprising any of the above?
Can all this be done using tasteful modifications?
Sound interesting?..... because using involvement from selected companies that is what we are all going to find out with "Project Scoobynet"!
Watch this space for more information on the Project for the masses.
Regards,
Shaun.
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hmm..
The cynical part of me suspects it will have a scooby sport diff controller and the scoobysport suspension!!!
The cynical part of me suspects it will have a scooby sport diff controller and the scoobysport suspension!!!
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lol
Absolutely, but unfortunately the majority of us have to make do with what we have and the first point of call is to look at modifications to achieve something a lot better.
Hopefully this project will prove this is possible without sacrificing our own cars characteristics, or costing us an absolute mint to achieve.
That in it's self is the fun and informative part of such a project.
Regards,
Shaun.
Absolutely, but unfortunately the majority of us have to make do with what we have and the first point of call is to look at modifications to achieve something a lot better.
Hopefully this project will prove this is possible without sacrificing our own cars characteristics, or costing us an absolute mint to achieve.
That in it's self is the fun and informative part of such a project.
Regards,
Shaun.
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so should it not be called project Kiss my **** or Project Shaun?
Rather than being associated with 'Scoobynet'
Not **** stirring either!!
Rather than being associated with 'Scoobynet'
Not **** stirring either!!
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For the benefit of everyone else I had a Ford (please go easy on me) RS500 before the Scoob and frequented PassionFord quite a lot. Unfortunately they have been subjected to a Scoob Power thread via David's beast, so hence the joke. Not that I would want to turn the knife anymore. lol
Regards,
Shaun.
Regards,
Shaun.
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shaun, we can have all the above, I have built it already and it is sitting in my garage.
Should point out that it cost a fortune, but thats because I was pioneering stuff that hadn't been done before. Copying mine will give you what you want but now that the hard work has been done it will be much cheaper!
Should point out that it cost a fortune, but thats because I was pioneering stuff that hadn't been done before. Copying mine will give you what you want but now that the hard work has been done it will be much cheaper!
#11
Hope this comes off.
Broad range threads like this are great, look at Flat 4's thread.
More than just an engine
More than just a chassis
More than just bull ****.
More than just techie stuff with no humour.
Hope this will happen.
Graham (911)
Broad range threads like this are great, look at Flat 4's thread.
More than just an engine
More than just a chassis
More than just bull ****.
More than just techie stuff with no humour.
Hope this will happen.
Graham (911)
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I fully appreciate that I will not be embarking on new waters, but we see soooo many threads on Scoobynet regarding modifications I thought it would be a good idea for me to share what I find instead of getting it all done and hiding everything away.
I'm after an all round solution (what ever that may be - lol ), and I think the remit of my initial post may be challenging. Many people get something done at some point, but I hope to achieve an all round package in to a complete project, with everything complimenting each other.
Of course there will always be people who have/will go that much further (this project forum is full of those, and without those people the modification scene wouldnt be what it is today) and I have no intention to take anything away from those. This will not be about "How much BHP can I get reliably" or "I want to shave x's off my 1/4 mile time", as I'm looking at the more sedate angle.
I'm just interested in a brilliant all rounder that doesnt effect the original car and sustains (actually improves) power, driveability etc etc at the same time. Something that will hopefully reflect the majority of what people look for in their short list of initial modifications.
Regards,
Shaun.
I'm after an all round solution (what ever that may be - lol ), and I think the remit of my initial post may be challenging. Many people get something done at some point, but I hope to achieve an all round package in to a complete project, with everything complimenting each other.
Of course there will always be people who have/will go that much further (this project forum is full of those, and without those people the modification scene wouldnt be what it is today) and I have no intention to take anything away from those. This will not be about "How much BHP can I get reliably" or "I want to shave x's off my 1/4 mile time", as I'm looking at the more sedate angle.
I'm just interested in a brilliant all rounder that doesnt effect the original car and sustains (actually improves) power, driveability etc etc at the same time. Something that will hopefully reflect the majority of what people look for in their short list of initial modifications.
Regards,
Shaun.
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At the risk of being boring, are you setting a sort-of budget to the car, or just aiming to get value for $$$$ as it evolves?
Although i hill climb and road drive my Sti v3, comfort, safety (can be the same thing) and legality are some issues to be threaded into a project. I race the car, but don't want to strip the interior, i cruise in the car, but don't mind the harsh ride; everyones idea of 'all rounder' is different.
What are your boundries in your mind ATM?
Sti /TypeC suspension, some whiteline parts
2.5 with a 20g + Type R box
3'' cat system, 94 dBa soundtrack (very quiet)
4 pot brakes front and rear
?
Graham.
Although i hill climb and road drive my Sti v3, comfort, safety (can be the same thing) and legality are some issues to be threaded into a project. I race the car, but don't want to strip the interior, i cruise in the car, but don't mind the harsh ride; everyones idea of 'all rounder' is different.
What are your boundries in your mind ATM?
Sti /TypeC suspension, some whiteline parts
2.5 with a 20g + Type R box
3'' cat system, 94 dBa soundtrack (very quiet)
4 pot brakes front and rear
?
Graham.
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Hi Graham,
It must be an all rounder for this initial stage of the project. Perhaps later stages will involve spending more and making the car lean towards a particular discipline but I believe it needs to be done in stages to get the best benefit. But I certainly appreciate your point on what that actually means. I suppose I am trying to look at it from a owners requirements that reflects the majority, thus returning a meaningful benefit for a justifiable cost (but again what is justifiable).
What I am trying to bear in mind, is that most people would only initially look at sutble engine mods, together with handling mods. The idea is to get a very good package working together based around these areas. Perhaps this initial stage may be quite straight forward, but I can only think that the hardest part will be concerning costs. Some areas may need more money, but as long as the benefit is justifiable I don't think that will be a bad thing and at the end of the day it will give an insight to what items can make a difference.
I'm specifically interested in looking at different things and testing (if this can be applicable) as I'm sure nothing will come together 1st time and certain areas will require development.
Realistically the project won't start until May, as I am presently awaiting final productionised versions of specific bits for the engine work (a new induction kit and exhaust..... but more on that at a later date!).
As regards to budgets...... thats a tough one.
Perhaps the engine work will be limited to the cost of a PPP, with the handling side being some where in the same region, but stated before I wont skimp on costs for handling as I see this is a key area and could be worth 100's of bhp
This was just a "taster" thread in reality, so nearer to the time of the project start I will be making an annoucement in General, followed by a full project discussion/update thread in this forum.
Regards,
Shaun.
It must be an all rounder for this initial stage of the project. Perhaps later stages will involve spending more and making the car lean towards a particular discipline but I believe it needs to be done in stages to get the best benefit. But I certainly appreciate your point on what that actually means. I suppose I am trying to look at it from a owners requirements that reflects the majority, thus returning a meaningful benefit for a justifiable cost (but again what is justifiable).
What I am trying to bear in mind, is that most people would only initially look at sutble engine mods, together with handling mods. The idea is to get a very good package working together based around these areas. Perhaps this initial stage may be quite straight forward, but I can only think that the hardest part will be concerning costs. Some areas may need more money, but as long as the benefit is justifiable I don't think that will be a bad thing and at the end of the day it will give an insight to what items can make a difference.
I'm specifically interested in looking at different things and testing (if this can be applicable) as I'm sure nothing will come together 1st time and certain areas will require development.
Realistically the project won't start until May, as I am presently awaiting final productionised versions of specific bits for the engine work (a new induction kit and exhaust..... but more on that at a later date!).
As regards to budgets...... thats a tough one.
Perhaps the engine work will be limited to the cost of a PPP, with the handling side being some where in the same region, but stated before I wont skimp on costs for handling as I see this is a key area and could be worth 100's of bhp
This was just a "taster" thread in reality, so nearer to the time of the project start I will be making an annoucement in General, followed by a full project discussion/update thread in this forum.
Regards,
Shaun.
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I think the phrase 'Project ScoobyNet' is lacking something.
How about 'Project Track Attack Daily Driver'
or 'Project Ballistic Cruiser'
or 'Project ScoobySport'
How about 'Project Track Attack Daily Driver'
or 'Project Ballistic Cruiser'
or 'Project ScoobySport'
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lol
Well unless ScoobySport have suddenly moved in to supplying induction kits, intercoolers, engine work and mapping I doubt very much that project "ScoobySport" will be very apt!
You lot are so cynical it's untrue!
Regards,
Shaun.
Well unless ScoobySport have suddenly moved in to supplying induction kits, intercoolers, engine work and mapping I doubt very much that project "ScoobySport" will be very apt!
You lot are so cynical it's untrue!
Regards,
Shaun.
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You lot are so cynical it's untrue!
Genuinely looking forward to this, you can never have enough projects
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Dont worry, your not that important!
Had a very interesting chat with one of the companies which will be involved this morning...... i'm getting quite excited I must admit and it is quite possible that the project could start earlier then May!
Apologies, as I don't specifically wont to get involved in detail on this thread, as that will be what the official project thread will be for. But as soon as I am in a position to actually have work started, we will get the ball rolling in this forum!
Regards,
Shaun.
Dont worry, your not that important!
Had a very interesting chat with one of the companies which will be involved this morning...... i'm getting quite excited I must admit and it is quite possible that the project could start earlier then May!
Apologies, as I don't specifically wont to get involved in detail on this thread, as that will be what the official project thread will be for. But as soon as I am in a position to actually have work started, we will get the ball rolling in this forum!
Regards,
Shaun.
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This is a good build up Shaun!
Can just see the curtains opening, and centre stage is...........
Looking forward to it, will be great fun. Hope we can participate/heckle/insult/drool.
Graham
Can just see the curtains opening, and centre stage is...........
Looking forward to it, will be great fun. Hope we can participate/heckle/insult/drool.
Graham
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I think if you're going to be doing a car yourself, that's great Shaun. If however you're going to be negotiating trade price deals on all your parts for favourable treatment on Scoobynet for the suppliers (or some variation), well, I don't know what to think of that to be honest. But it's not really representative of what can be done by the average user on here.
The cynic in me is I waiting to be proven wrong.
Paul
The cynic in me is I waiting to be proven wrong.
Paul
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Pavlo,
The exact things that will be tested on my car will be directly representative to what "Mr Average" can buy..... this IS the entire reason for the project!
Like I said..... instead of me doing things to my car and not discussing it, I have decided to show people what I am doing and what conclusions have been drawn up.
At the end of the day people will do what ever they want to their own car, but if I can give them more reference data to work with than all's the better.
I am not going to give anyone favourable treatment...... if something don't work..... i'll tell you!
Although I love the cynics ( ) I am not doing this to prove any person right or wrong, this is all about fun and getting involved and if information can be gained from it then all the better.
Regards,
Shaun.
The exact things that will be tested on my car will be directly representative to what "Mr Average" can buy..... this IS the entire reason for the project!
Like I said..... instead of me doing things to my car and not discussing it, I have decided to show people what I am doing and what conclusions have been drawn up.
At the end of the day people will do what ever they want to their own car, but if I can give them more reference data to work with than all's the better.
I am not going to give anyone favourable treatment...... if something don't work..... i'll tell you!
Although I love the cynics ( ) I am not doing this to prove any person right or wrong, this is all about fun and getting involved and if information can be gained from it then all the better.
Regards,
Shaun.