Now that my car is finally running, and has been out in public for the first time I thought it was time to pass on the credit where it is due.

Original thread

http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=264870

See the link for figures and a video of it running!!

http://bbs.22b.com/cgi-bin/ultimateb...5;t=000118;p=7

The last key test is to try it up the black strip...to me much more relevant than a RR figure. So fingers crossed that the drivetrain holds up as it is a monster on the road.

Not even tried full power in 1st, but second goes in just over a second, mostly due to wheelspin even in the dry, and third is not much better if it is even slightly damp!!

Over the past eight months I would like to thank the following: -

Steve at SMG for working such magic with the heads and cams - the level of flow increase is staggering. Steve also prepared the block with the liners and did a fine job on the honing.

Rally Colin - for installing the drivetrain, doing the most horrible job of replacing all the bushes with Powerflex ones, and general bits and bobs in getting the engine, gearbox and diff in and out

Phil Venn at Barretts - for the gearbox build. Probably the best Subaru gearbox man in the UK.

Dave Wild and son, and Tim at DTW Racing - for the final build, numerous hours dyno time and getting the engine running with some odd challenges on the way. Also for creating the base map. The meticulous approach to all the work is very, very impressive. Not cheap, but in my opinion the very best.

Pat Herborne - for the loom build, all the electrics, lots of the installation, a lot of the mapping. Pat has put in so many hours on this car it is incredible.

Mark at Lateral Performance - gratitude underestimates the effort that Mark put into this car and this build. It has been an incredible learning process, however some things have been spot on from day one. Specifically the turbo build and choice is superb. The driveability and power from this smaller of the large turbos is perfect for a road/track/drag car. For all the non-believers, it proved yesterday that at low boost levels the amount of power available is incredible. And the boost threshold on the road is significantly less than a standard STi V.

Mark was also the architect of the overall engine build, supplied or sourced all the parts for the engine and drivetrain, and made sure that everything went together as it should!!

David Wallis and Steven Darley - various bits of spanner wielding and fabrication (baffled sump) and motivation on this and previous incarnations of the car.

The Doubters - for inspiring me to stick at this project long after it was due.

And, finally, Mrs Trout for putting up with it all over the past six months and feeding Pat at his hungriest!!!

If I have missed anyone I can only apologise, many people have chipped in along the way!!

Possum Fink

 

Well done Trout & all involved

Can't wait to see it in the flesh in May?





Its lovely when a plan comes together

 

Well done Trout!

Good project thread and gald to see car is running and by the sounds of it performing VERY well

Cant wait to see it this year

 

Nice one

Look forward to seeing it mate. Sounds like ALOT of work!

Good luck!

 

looking very good, gives me something to aim for now - i wish

 

Sounded excellent on the rollers David.
What are you doing about suspension to try and harness all that power out on the twisties?

Alan

 

Excellent David!!

A very cool belated birthday present!!

 

Very impressive David, kind of sorted the men from the boys on sunday as well.
When do you reckon you will get onto the Black Dyno? Now that i Gotta see!!

First 10sec scoob in uk?

Rob

 

I recon its going to be in the 10 / 11's not sub 10 after speaking to / hearing from rigoli.

David

 

Keep talking Mr Wallis?!!

Rob

 

Yeah please carry on

 

It handles suprisingly well on the standard shocks and springs - although all the bushes have been done. On drag/track I suspect harder might be better

To put this in perspective - I have spoken to Tony Rigoli several times about the car and trying to learn from what they have done...

...and when I asked him what sort of times I might expect, his response was...

..."I guess it will be mid-11s, but to be honest it is so long ago since we had a car of that power I can't remember!!!!!!!"

Thanks for your comments guys

Possum

 

I suspect you might do better than that ... my Icelandic "project" runs mid 11's and was dyno'd at G Force today at 402 bhp and 354 ft lbs torque, std internaled Sti8 with my turbo, headers, exhaust, induction etc plus M800. Boost was 1.45 bar peak.

Suspect with a bit of practice you could get it into the 10's.

Bob

 

Well done David and all involved

So what next?

 

Nice one David i think your're playing down the times abit I'm aiming for 11's with 430bhp so you should low 11's easily

Now get to a non-slip set of rollers so we can see the more accurate power figures
Scott

 

Bob,

I am intrigued! An Sti 8 is a pretty lardy beast at best. And given my 1 bar figures I should be able to beat that!

The Trout mobile certainly feels very quick on the road - certainly well into the 11s - but I just suspect the 10s might evade me given the lag between gears.

Of course, we have yet to map in the ALS and SLS which will help a little!

Will try it without first just to see what it can do.

Will be on the strip at the first opportunity!

Rannoch

 

Go for it David I think you will get in there. You are right about the lard but the car sprints without the rear wing and minimum fuel.

look forward

bob

 

and still with the FMIC ?????

Carlos H.

 

Has APS FMIC .. weight is 1400 (ish) kgs in sprint trim.

bob

 

David,

Prior to running at elvington / pod / crail etc.. it would be good to get it on a weighbridge and get a weight figure!

David

 

Nearest weighbridge i can think of is at J Dawsons feed merchants at the pocklington industrial estate.

 

Steven,

any idea of the opening hours?

I know where it is and so will go down and have a go.

Rannoch

 

I'm intrigued David just how much power the Rigoli Cars must have to get into the 8's let alone the 10's. Where are we all going wrong, the top cars which are scarce in this country produce under 600 hp, they obviously have managed to unleash some hidden potential in these engines which we havent found yet?

Mr. Wallis, what do you know on the subject?

PS I think you'll get early 11's easy with some stick rubber and antilag mapped in

But with the help of some nice green bottles 9's could be reachable

Conrad

 

David, not sure tbh. Give them a call

Dawson J, & Sons Ltd

(01759) 303201


Steven

 

Conrad, spoke to Rigoli boys quite a bit

I think they have a bigger rev limit

You can buy one of their engines. I think it was about 30k, maybe a bit cheaper for a full engine fully mapped ready to drop in the scoob that will do 9s.

Gearbox recommended by them was autobox

 

Depends what you want the car for really - as I can see, the dragstrip Rigoli cars wouldn't last a single lap of Nürburgring. That's no bad thing, they have a purpose and they achieve it, I'd just prefer a bit more 'all round' ability....

Richard

 

Rigolis car is also automatic. there comes a point when a manual simply cant keep up. And at 9 secs or less, very very few cars will be manual.

 

Up till now the rigollis used very low technology. They used lots of boost and RPM, but not much else. No cams, headwork, tubular headers etc. the result was a very narrow powerband from an inefficient package. But because they got the times everyone thinks they are gods and that the rigolli way is the only way.

Elsewhere in australia and US people are getting good times on seemingly impossilby low power.

Paul

 

Maybe so, but they are doing the business and have been for a while..

Will be interesting to see what david gets in the spring or summer..

David

 

I agree with David, at the moment they are the gods as no one else is really putting on good times.

No one from the UK (yet) is anyway near it.

i expect both Rannochs and David Wallis times should be interesting. Obviously not in the 8s, but definitely low 11s maybe 10s

Paul, why is the package efficient? After speaking to Rigoli a number of times, some of their projects that they have ran of crag getting 10s all day long and sometimes 9s didnt need any major rebuild. One car they ran 8-10 times and (touch wood) still havent had any faults with it